Exercise and fainting?

[EricGu]

I googled for it but found way too much information and I couldn't wade through those long words. So please keep it simple.

I've been in a 1,200 calorie diet for about 10 days. Quite simple: lean meat, veggies, legumes, fruits and some milk in very small portions. No problems here, I've done this before and it always worked.

Last Wednesday I exercised for nearly 2 hours (water workout + underwater spinning) and about half an hour later I felt dizzy and nauseated. But I forgot about it later. Then on Friday the same thing happened, only this time I got drenched in sweat and was very close to passing out completely. I was in juice shop and looked around to see if there was any hot strong guy to support me if I fell, so that I could sigh and look all delicate and helpless, but there wasn't any, so you see how frustrating the whole experience was. Kidding aside, it's just an overall unpleasant experience and I'm not used to this.

I'm not in any medication and I'm not diabetic or have any heart condition. I had those checked last year when my father had heart problems. That's why it's so problematic to find good info, google just wants to convince me I have to have those to nearly faint after exercise. Oh, and my blood pressure has always been in the normal range.

I gather there is something missing in my diet? Basically, how can I do cardio for two hours without fainting like a Victorian virgin later?

I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way.

As a fairly serious recreational cyclist (I'm currently riding about 120 miles a week and my body fat is somewhere around 10%), and I've done a considerable amount of research about nutrition and exercise.

So, feel free to take or ignore my advice as you see fit.

I think the right approach is to adopt a reasonable eating plan - something like South Beach is a good choice - and eat when you are hungry. Your goal should not to diet, it should be to come up with a plan that works long term.

But... diets like south beach are not designed for people who exercise a lot. I've run into a lot of people who have tried the approach that you are taking, but *none* of the cyclists I know take that approach. They fuel up with carbs to support their exercise.

The reasons are simple. During exercise, you burn both fat and carbohydrate, but the amount of time you can exercise is mostly dependent on how much carbohydrate you have stored. If you take in carbohydrate while you exercise, you can exercise longer. If you take in carbs immediately after, you restore the carb stores, and suppresss your appetite.

I'd suggest reading "food for fitness", by chris carmichael, and south beach if you haven't already.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Well, update... on Friday I screwed up completely, that is, showed up to work out at 7pm, having had a light lunch at noon, and I was late to think of anything. I thought "guys at JREF can't hear about this" so I rushed into a juice shop and bought papaya+orange+acerola and took half of it before class and the other half in a 10-minute interval I gave myself. So I worked out two hours with no problem. The problem was later when I felt again dizzy and nauseated... but I was home already. Well, it helped that I knew (after some of you used small words to explain to me) that it is not necessarily a bad thing.

On Monday I paid more attention and had a power bar in the afternoon and drank Gatorade throughout the workout, so I was fine.

I swear to Ed I could workout and eat pretty much anything when I was younger. But it could be that now I have a more erratic schedule, so meals are secondary. I'm not much of a planner in a micro-scale.

Told you it would work.


Personal experience explained in simple terms is more helpful than scientific gibberish from someone who doesn't even work out.

 

[El Greco]

Dustin, please let me explain:

You are "socially impaired" because of your moronic ideas regarding gays masturbating with your photo, and your generalizing those ideas to the general public.

You are "athletically impaired" because of various and sundry stupid comments you have made from time to time regarding exercise.

And you are "intellectually impaired" because:

1. You estimate bodyweight by a photo (and you are way wrong, BTW)
2. You don't know whose photo is this
3. You don't know when it was taken
4. You relate training with appearance. WTF do you know about someone's training ? So, an 120lbs Olympic weightlifter or a 10,000m runner haven't trained a day in their lives because they don't look bulky to you.
5. You relate knowledge with appearance. So the coach of our national weighlifting team or a university professor aren't qualified to give training advice because they don't look bulky to you.

But I think you have demonstrated those qualities in several other discussions, so perhaps I'm just beating a dead horse here.

ETA: Now that I'm thinking about it, the only data we have about you are these:

1. You are homophobic
2. You only say you workout but you will post no photos
3. You don't know $h!t about "scientific gibberish". You don't even know basic stuff like the things you've been asked by kookbreaker in that thread of yours.

Hmmm... where do the above lead us ?

 

[El Greco]

What is this? A long running competition to see who can get deepest into the gutter? Because it looks like it. Please do not criticise each other's looks or intelligence. Show how poor the other's arguments are and leave it up to the rest of us to work out who has impaired intelligence and looks.

I guess you are right, but the situation with this troll is getting rather vexing. Another example where I didn't even bother to reply: In this thread I wrote at a point:

I'm male, expend about 500 kcals daily on exercise, and when I'm dieting my calories are 1200

Then Dustin chimes in with a highly constructive comment:

You burn 5,000 calories a day? What do you do? Run a marathon everyday?

I find that highly unbelievable.

Roboramma answers him:

He said he takes in 1200/day (when dieting) and has a deficit of 1800/day.

1200+1800 = 3000 last I checked.

Dustin returns even more constructively:

It looks like I misread...


He said "500 K cals" meaning 500 thousand calories.

K as in kilo.


It obviously was a mistype.

Knowing the guy, I don't even bother. Someone else does, this time blutoski:

No, that's correct.

1Calorie (capital C) = 1kcal = 1000calories.

At this point you would expect the troll to say it was his mistake, or at least shut the fug up. But noooooooo. Read his answer and tell me what you make of this:

Yes he said "500 kcals" 500,000 calories a day.
lol

All that time I didn't even bother but it seems like this troll has been targeting me and a few others ever since we said in that old thread of his that it is perfectly normal not to bother with someone masturbating with your photo and that he is a homophobe. You'd think he would have forgotten after all this time, but apparently he hasn't.

So I'm sorry to degrade this thread, but this is not the first time I encounter the wall of Dustin's imbecility. I'm just trying to get a troll off my back. You'd notice that I didn't even bother to reply to this twerp - until he started referring to me.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Dustin, please let me explain:

You are "socially impaired" because of your moronic ideas regarding gays masturbating with your photo, and your generalizing those ideas to the general public.

"moronic ideas"? If you want to have homosexuals masturbate to your photo..Be my guest.

But don't call those of us who don't care for such a thing to occur "moronic".

You are "athletically impaired" because of various and sundry stupid comments you have made from time to time regarding exercise.

This makes absolutely no sense for 2 reasons.

1.None of my comments are stupid.


2.Assuming I do make stupid comments regarding exercise that has absolutely nothing to do with my athletic ability. That's like saying someone who makes stupid coments regarding beauty is automatically ugly. Simply absurd reasoning on your part.

And you are "intellectually impaired" because:

1. You estimate bodyweight by a photo (and you are way wrong, BTW)
2. You don't know whose photo is this
3. You don't know when it was taken
4. You relate training with appearance. WTF do you know about someone's training ? So, an 120lbs Olympic weightlifter or a 10,000m runner haven't trained a day in their lives because they don't look bulky to you.
5. You relate knowledge with appearance. So the coach of our national weighlifting team or a university professor aren't qualified to give training advice because they don't look bulky to you.

1.I can accuratly determine bodyweight by a photo in most cases.

2.You already admited it was yours in the very thread you linked a few posts ago!

3.3 years ago(According to you)

4.All of the above look more athletic than you.

5.You're contradicting yourself here and misreading what I even said. First of all...You say that I relate knowledge to appearance? YOU are the one who related supposed knowledge to my actuall physical ability.

You are "athletically impaired" because of various and sundry stupid comments you have made from time to time regarding exercise.

Here you're saying I'm not athletic because(According to you) I don't know much about athletics. A fallacy.

Second of all..I never said people who don't workout can't know alot. I said I find it FUNNY that someone who looks like you is giving exercise advice. I never said you didn't know what you were saying. I implied you obviously don't impliment it.

But I think you have demonstrated those qualities in several other discussions, so perhaps I'm just beating a dead horse here.

ETA: Now that I'm thinking about it, the only data we have about you are these:

1. You are homophobic
2. You only say you workout but you will post no photos
3. You don't know $h!t about "scientific gibberish". You don't even know basic stuff like the things you've been asked by kookbreaker in that thread of yours.

Hmmm... where do the above lead us ?

1.I'm homophobic because I don't want homosexuals oogling me? Faulty logic.

2.You're contradicting yourself yet again.

3.Of course I don't know anything about "Scientific gibbeirsh". I know alot about scientific facts however.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

I guess you are right, but the situation with this troll is getting rather vexing. Another example where I didn't even bother to reply: In this thread I wrote at a point:



Then Dustin chimes in with a highly constructive comment:



Roboramma answers him:



Dustin returns even more constructively:



Knowing the guy, I don't even bother. Someone else does, this time blutoski:



At this point you would expect the troll to say it was his mistake, or at least shut the fug up. But noooooooo. Read his answer and tell me what you make of this:



All that time I didn't even bother but it seems like this troll has been targeting me and a few others ever since we said in that old thread of his that it is perfectly normal not to bother with someone masturbating with your photo and that he is a homophobe. You'd think he would have forgotten after all this time, but apparently he hasn't.

So I'm sorry to degrade this thread, but this is not the first time I encounter the wall of Dustin's imbecility. I'm just trying to get a troll off my back. You'd notice that I didn't even bother to reply to this twerp - until he started referring to me.

You said "500 k cals" which doesn't make any sense. The fault was OBVIOUSLY on your part as blutoski pointed out.

"500 k cals" means 500,000 calories.

You claimed you expended 500,000 calories a day. I pointed out your fault. Now all of a sudden i'm a troll?


Calling everyone who disagrees with you a "Troll" really shows your maturity. I've seen this done alot by you in many posts.


But you go ahead and don't respond to my posts. Not that you could come up with a reasonable response to begin with judging by your past posts.

 

[El Greco]

You said "500 k cals" which doesn't make any sense. The fault was OBVIOUSLY on your part as blutoski pointed out.

Ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case.

 

[Hellbound]

You said "500 k cals" which doesn't make any sense. The fault was OBVIOUSLY on your part as blutoski pointed out.

"500 k cals" means 500,000 calories.

You claimed you expended 500,000 calories a day. I pointed out your fault. Now all of a sudden i'm a troll?

You aren't a troll, you're an uneducated idiot.

Do every one a favor. Buy a science text book, Junior high Physical Science should have it, or any high-schoool physics or chemistry texts. OF course, this assumes you actually have access to high school (I understand you have to attend to have access).

Look up the following terms:

calorie
Calorie
kilocalorie

Then shut the ◊◊◊◊ up, because Greco is absolutely correct here, and you are showing your ignorance.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

You aren't a troll, you're an uneducated idiot.

Do every one a favor. Buy a science text book, Junior high Physical Science should have it, or any high-schoool physics or chemistry texts. OF course, this assumes you actually have access to high school (I understand you have to attend to have access).

Look up the following terms:

calorie
Calorie
kilocalorie

Then shut the ◊◊◊◊ up, because Greco is absolutely correct here, and you are showing your ignorance.

Either YOU are the troll or your grasp of the english language simply sucks.


Greco said he burned "500 kilo calories a day". That's 500,000 calories.


"k cal" is 1000 calories.


Get it?

What aren't you understanding about this?

"500 k cals" means 500 THOUSAND calories. That's FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND CALORIES. He claimed he expened that amount daily...which isn't possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilocalorie




He made a mistake and instead of admiting me made a mistake he attacks me for pointing it out.

And he calls ME a troll?

HA!

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case.

Your case was dead from the start. No resting needed.

 

[Hellbound]

Okay, Dustin. Let's go into remedial mode.

calories (small c) are not typically used in regards to food, as they are too small a unit to matter.

kilocalories (kcals) are a mnore appropriate unit, and these are used to measure food energy.

In the states, the term kilocalorie was replaced with Calorie (large C). One Calorie=1000 calories=1 kcal.

You simply don't understand the units you claim Greco misused, and you're too stubborn and ignorant to correct your own lack of knowledge.

For your edification, since apparantly you can't be bothered to get off your ***** and learn anything without it being force-fed into your thick skull:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie

In scientific contexts, the name "calorie" refers strictly to the gram calorie, and the unit has the symbol cal. SI prefixes are used with this name and symbol, so the kilogram calorie is known as the "kilocalorie" and has the symbol kcal.

Colloquially, and in nutrition and food labelling, the term "calorie" almost always refers to the kilogram calorie. This applies only to English text; if an energy measurement is given using a unit symbol then the scientific practice prevails there. A convention of capitalising "Calorie" to refer to the kilogram calorie, with uncapitalised "calorie" referring to the gram calorie, is sometimes proposed, but neither recognized in any official standards, nor commonly followed.

Calorie as used in nutrition refers to kcals. Apparently, the large C/small c distinction is still in debate, however, so I withdraw that part of my argument. Doesn't really matter, though, as kcal is specifically the unit that is equal to one nutrition calorie.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Okay, Dustin. Let's go into remedial mode.

calories (small c) are not typically used in regards to food, as they are too small a unit to matter.

kilocalories (kcals) are a mnore appropriate unit, and these are used to measure food energy.

In the states, the term kilocalorie was replaced with Calorie (large C). One Calorie=1000 calories=1 kcal.

You simply don't understand the units you claim Greco misused, and you're too stubborn and ignorant to correct your own lack of knowledge.

For your edification, since apparantly you can't be bothered to get off your ***** and learn anything without it being force-fed into your thick skull:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie



Calorie as used in nutrition refers to kcals. Apparently, the large C/small c distinction is still in debate, however, so I withdraw that part of my argument. Doesn't really matter, though, as kcal is specifically the unit that is equal to one nutrition calorie.

By definition...

The small calorie or gram calorie approximates the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1 g of water by 1 °C. This is about 4.185 J.

^^This is what anyone means when they say "calorie". 1 gram of water by 1 degree c.

The large calorie or kilogram calorie approximates the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1 kg of water by 1 °C. This is about 4.185 kJ, and exactly 1000 small calories.

^^This is what Greco said. 1 KILOGRAM of water by 1degree c. This measure to exactly 1000 small calories(or normal calories).



The modern definition for calorie in America..Or anywhere else is...

The quantity of thermal energy required to raise one gram of water 1°C at 15°C.

www.flw.com/define_c.htm



Now this is where you say "I was wrong Dustin, I'm sorry for insulting you like the little imature child I am."

 

[Hellbound]

By definition...



^^This is what anyone means when they say "calorie". 1 gram of water by 1 degree c.




^^This is what Greco said. 1 KILOGRAM of water by 1degree c. This measure to exactly 1000 small calories(or normal calories).



The modern definition for calorie in America..Or anywhere else is...



www.flw.com/define_c.htm



Now this is where you say "I was wrong Dustin, I'm sorry for insulting you like the little imature child I am."

You're wrong, Dustin, and I'm sorry you're acting like the immature little child you are.

500,000 claories, then, in the sense you mean, is not very much. It's perfectly reasonable to expend this amount in a couple hours exercise.

However, the definition of calorie used in, for example, the 2000-calorie-a-day RDAs is the kilocalorie, or the amount of energy needed to raise the temp of one kilogram of water by one degree. This is also the measure used on objects such as Soda cans and other food packaging...the kilocalorie, not the gram calorie.

I'm sorry you have such trouble with understanding and comprehension. And I'll apologize for insulting you as soon as you refrain from acting in a manner worthy of insults.

Let me repost the part you blatantly ignored so that you could attempt to retain the failing threads of your argument:

Colloquially, and in nutrition and food labelling, the term "calorie" almost always refers to the kilogram calorie. This applies only to English text; if an energy measurement is given using a unit symbol then the scientific practice prevails there.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

You're wrong, Dustin, and I'm sorry you're acting like the immature little child you are.

500,000 claories, then, in the sense you mean, is not very much. It's perfectly reasonable to expend this amount in a couple hours exercise.

If the amount of Calories needed daily is 2,500 for the average male...The average male would need to eat over TWO HUNDRED TIMES the amount of food.

Think about that. You're simply wrong.

I'm immature because I don't admit i'm wrong? How does that make me immature? INSULTING someone because you disagree with them is immature...Not not admiting you're wrong.

However, the definition of calorie used in, for example, the 2000-calorie-a-day RDAs is the kilocalorie, or the amount of energy needed to raise the temp of one kilogram of water by one degree. This is also the measure used on objects such as Soda cans and other food packaging...the kilocalorie, not the gram calorie.

I'm sorry you have such trouble with understanding and comprehension. And I'll apologize for insulting you as soon as you refrain from acting in a manner worthy of insults.

Let me repost the part you blatantly ignored so that you could attempt to retain the failing threads of your argument:

And let ME repost the part YOU blatantly ignored...

A convention of capitalising "Calorie" to refer to the kilogram calorie, with uncapitalised "calorie" referring to the gram calorie, is sometimes proposed, but neither recognized in any official standards, nor commonly followed.

Greco did not capitalize it. He simply said "kcal" which is WHAT THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT. WHICH IS WHAT CAUSED THE CONFUSION,WHICH WAS THE ERROR ON HIS PART.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

I just saw your profile and noticed you're 31 years old!! Do us all a favor and grow up.

No one of any age has ever talked to me like you are in person. Calling me an "uneducated idiot." It only happens on message boards. I wonder why that is...Hmm!

If we were talking face to face you'd be alot less aggressive than you are now. I guarantee that. If you threw around as many insult as you do online in face to face speak...You probably wouldn't have many teeth left!

You're probably one of those 115lb guys who can't act tough around people face to face so he gets his kicks throwing pointless insults on message boards to anyone who simply disagrees with them.

Notice the first post in this thread and you're calling me an "Idiot". That says alot about YOUR mauturity level..Or lack thereof.

 

[El Greco]

You're probably one of those 115lb guys who can't act tough around people face to face so he gets his kicks throwing pointless insults on message boards to anyone who simply disagrees with them.

Dustin, STFU at last. No matter who's talking to you and whether he is 115lbs or 350lbs, you are still an idiot. This wouldn't be so bad in itself, but you are also malevolent. You can't be malevolent AND idiot at the same time. It looks bad. All successful malevolent people are clever and all successful idiots are good-hearted. Your combination is simply catastrophic.

BTW, I know I don't even look like I workout but in any case I'll post a pic again. Before you ask, you may freely masturbate with it. I don't mind at all. (I used to think that even you could understand the difference between "I don't mind" and "I want", but I was wrong).

I don't hope you can ever be educated. You are Beyond Education. All I want is to never see your ugly nick again referring to my posts directly or indirectly. Pretend I don't exist and you can continue practicing imbecility till hell freezes. Otherwise I'll register to that bodybuilding site you post and I'll link here so that everybody can admire your contributions.

Get off my back, you sorry excuse of a troll.

ETA: Sorry I used words with more than two syllables.

 

[Luciana]

Now I have fainted, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Miss Whiplash]

When was the last time you had an EKG?

 

[Luciana]

It was the pic above that did it, Vampire. There is only so much a girl can take... I think I'll call other skephicks to check this thread.

 

[madmonk76]

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BTW, I know I don't even look like I workout but in any case I'll post a pic again.

That was sarcasm, right?
None of the guys that I know who sit around eating cheetos all day and not working out certainly do not look like that...