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Tailgater said:
Just another quick one. A house in a town near here had a gas explosion from the kitchen. Blew most of the house up and windows out of the surrounding houses along with a few people that were knocked over in the street. Was that a "squib"?
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I believe that's called a "squibboom."
 
I'd like to get people's opinion on this. I turned down a request to be a guest on the Philadelphia morning radio show of Michael Smerconish. He's a pretty big player: big market, drive-time, sells books, wins awards, subs for Bill O'Reilly on his radio show.

But I don't like his politics. He's right-wing, thinks this country is full of "pussies" for not executing Moussaoui, that kind of thing.

I have no qualms about my decision as it relates to one show. But if I get more requests like that, i'm wondering what to do. I don't want to appear to be lending my voice to causes I dislike. Then again, the opportunity to reach a lot of people with FACTS doesn't come along every day.

I'm sure Dylan Avery sweats over this kind of thing every day.

That's a joke.

Your thoughts?
 
milesalpha said:
The picky historian is back,

To be accurate the technology did exist well before Pearl Harbor. The Japanese had only added wooden fins to their torpedoes for the attack. Pearl Harbor was based on the similar British attack on the Italian fleet at Taranto in 1940, which proved the viability of shallow water torpedo attacks. To me, the important fact to remember is the nature of the navy leaders of virtually every nation at the time, they still believed in the big gun platform, the battleship, as the primary capital ship. There were few proponents of carrier warfare by 1941 (including Nagumo, leader of the Japanese strike force). Even fewer believed it would be possible to strike a base such as Pearl Harbor with any effectiveness. Now we could believe this was a conspiracy or we could simply believe that the admirals were not very forward thinkers, as history has so often proven (i.e the Allied use of tanks in 1940 was straight out of WWI, conspiracy or stupidity?).
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Forgot about Taranto. Didn't know the depth of thar harbor, or whether it was torpedos anyway. To be honest, the battleship still outshined the carrier in the number of naval engagements in WW2. And the strike on Pearl Harbor WAS ineffective, since it only sunk obsolete ships and didn't damage the facilities (granted by a stroke of luck the carriers weren't there). My vote is solidly for "not very forward thinkers". The court-martial of Billy Mitchell bears that out. Forward thinking in the US military has never been a strong-suit - when it happens, it's remarkable.
 
geggy said:
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Look on right side of the tower. Concrete flying straight outward at an accelerating speed. how do you explain this?
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Gravity.
 
Polaris said:
Forward thinking in the US military has never been a strong-suit - when it happens, it's remarkable.
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And THAT'S why we need the forward thinkers in the Project for a New American Century." I'm calling for a new Taranto! Who's with me?
 
Gravy said:
I'd like to get people's opinion on this. I turned down a request to be a guest on the Philadelphia morning radio show of Michael Smerconish. He's a pretty big player: big market, drive-time, sells books, wins awards, subs for Bill O'Reilly on his radio show.

But I don't like his politics. He's right-wing, thinks this country is full of "pussies" for not executing Moussaoui, that kind of thing.

I have no qualms about my decision as it relates to one show. But if I get more requests like that, i'm wondering what to do. I don't want to appear to be lending my voice to causes I dislike. Then again, the opportunity to reach a lot of people with FACTS doesn't come along every day.

I'm sure Dylan Avery sweats over this kind of thing every day.

That's a joke.

Your thoughts?
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Why should the host's politics matter? Think of the audience you'll reach. You'll never get on the radio if you require such high standards for the host. ;)
 
WildCat said:
Why should the host's politics matter? Think of the audience you'll reach. You'll never get on the radio if you require such high standards for the host. ;)
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It matters because I don't control how the show goes, and these shows get ratings by being provocative, not by being sensible. Let's just say that i'm...skeptical.

eta: I guess I'm also influenced by my criticism of Avery for talking to Hufschmid, JZ Knight, and their ilk.
 
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I agree with Wildcat. Even if you flame on the show, if you get a % of people to take a look at your work and spread it around, it would be worth it. Always find out the format, time you have, and how much you can advertise your work first. Don't know what to do about downloading file gravy. My comp just doesn't like it. Loads real slow, then page not found:( Think I have enough info to go without it:)
 
Yes. Neither one will load. I've had trouble lately with some links not loading, so I'm thinking it's my dsl. Wife wanted to switch from cable for satellite and I miss it already.
 
Tailgater said:
Yes. Neither one will load. I've had trouble lately with some links not loading, so I'm thinking it's my dsl. Wife wanted to switch from cable for satellite and I miss it already.
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Re-boot your modem, and if that doesn't work do a spyware scan.
 
Gravy said:
It matters because I don't control how the show goes, and these shows get ratings by being provocative, not by being sensible. Let's just say that i'm...skeptical.

eta: I guess I'm also influenced by my criticism of Avery for talking to Hufschmid, JZ Knight, and their ilk.
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Let him know your going to record you r own version at the same time
Get a recordable MP3 player. That way if they BS, you can release your version.
 
hellaeon said:
Let him know your going to record you r own version at the same time
Get a recordable MP3 player. That way if they BS, you can release your version.
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I doubt any radio station would agree to that.
 
I love squibs. I think they're best when you fry them in a light beer batter with a sprinkle of pepper and a squeeze of lemon, then dip them in cocktail sauce. Just don't cook the squibs too long, or they get chewy and...

Oh. Never mind.
 
Gravy, I'd have a nice, polite chat with the producer. State your concerns and see how they respond.

If you do choose to go on the show, please prepare yourself with a top 10 talking points -- a "greatest hits," if you will. These would be those items you feel support the issue from your perspective, not to mention reveal the weakness of the counter-argument. The reason is to guard against a shotgun approach on the part of the host. There simply will not be enough time to cover the countless allegations of "Loose Change" and you will want/need to stay focused.

By the way, are you skilled at public speaking? Ever been on the radio before?
 
Regnad Kcin said:
Gravy, I'd have a nice, polite chat with the producer. State your concerns and see how they respond.

If you do choose to go on the show, please prepare yourself with a top 10 talking points -- a "greatest hits," if you will. These would be those items you feel support the issue from your perspective, not to mention reveal the weakness of the counter-argument. The reason is to guard against a shotgun approach on the part of the host. There simply will not be enough time to cover the countless allegations of "Loose Change" and you will want/need to stay focused.

By the way, are you skilled at public speaking? Ever been on the radio before?
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Good advice. To be clear, these folks are right-wing anti 9/11 conspiracy-theory types. I have no problems with public speaking, but this was on very short notice, so I said no rather than jump into murky water. I didn't get involved in this for its entertainment value.
 
Gravy said:
I'd like to get people's opinion on this. I turned down a request to be a guest on the Philadelphia morning radio show of Michael Smerconish. He's a pretty big player: big market, drive-time, sells books, wins awards, subs for Bill O'Reilly on his radio show.

But I don't like his politics. He's right-wing, thinks this country is full of "pussies" for not executing Moussaoui, that kind of thing.

I have no qualms about my decision as it relates to one show. But if I get more requests like that, i'm wondering what to do. I don't want to appear to be lending my voice to causes I dislike. Then again, the opportunity to reach a lot of people with FACTS doesn't come along every day.

I'm sure Dylan Avery sweats over this kind of thing every day.

That's a joke.

Your thoughts?
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My personal opinion on the subject is that I believe it wouldn't be good to do what Avery is doing, wich is go talk on alternative shows and venues where the listeners are already convinced of what he's saying. What's the point of talking to people who are only one-sided, that will agree with you what ever you say?

In Avery's interview you posted earlier, the interviewer asks him about three times who planted the explosives in WTC7. Avery of course doesn't say and talks about people and cops hearing explosions (and blah blah blah) and the interview goes on to other 9/11 topics. A normal interviewer, if there is one, should have seen through Avery's misleading answers and should have continued on the subject until proof was said about who did indeed have planted these explosives (of course nobody).

People who will believe one side of the story no matter what are incapable of argumentation. Argumentation is I think your forte. When people will hear you actually respond to every doubt an interviewer might have on the official story, and give actual proofs to back it up, the listeners won't have a choice but to acknowledge how stupid the CTs are.
 
Gravy said:
BTW, just wanted to make a big public thanks to CurtC for all his work on the HTML version. I just checked out the working table of contents. Awesome! I know that was a huge amount of work. You made something far more useful out of my scribblings.
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Don't thank me - thank regular expression find & replace!

Actually, I did have to hand-tag each of your comments and quotes, and although regexp did most of the work on the index, I had to do a lot of clean-up, mostly because I had split it into six web pages.

I think that next I'll compile a list of suggestions for you. Are you ready to address the work again?
 
Gravy said:
But if I get more requests like that, i'm wondering what to do. I don't want to appear to be lending my voice to causes I dislike. Then again, the opportunity to reach a lot of people with FACTS doesn't come along every day.

I'm sure Dylan Avery sweats over this kind of thing every day.

That's a joke.

Your thoughts?
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My thoughts: if it's only the politics of the host that's getting in the way... I hope you reconsider. As you point out, you don't have many opportunities to reach so many people with facts all that often.

Something else to consider: I think that the fact that your politics don't align with the host actually gives you enormous credibility. Mention that -- when you go on say, you know, I really don't agree with your politics, and I don't want my appearance to be construed as support for your politics, but we agree on the issue of these conspiracy theories, and I'm here to help shed what light I can on things.

I think it's important to establish you're not simply carrying water for Bush. State that you don't like him, that you disagree with his policies or whatever, but that doesn't mean you have to accept this preposterous nonsense that's put forward by the CTs.
 
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