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dubfan said:
Hello all. Had this thread pointed out to me by someone on another forum, and I just want to echo these sentiments.

I'm so angry at these lunatic CTs -- for exactly these reasons -- that I can hardly see straight. There's a thread in the LC forum "Lounge" claiming you guys are "obsessed" with LC.... If only they knew that everyone is coming here for the comedy.

It's been a pleasure watching you guys demolish this piece of rubbish. Sorry for the threadjack... Please continue.
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Welcome dubfan.

Here's hoping for many hours of you almost passing out in laughter.

Oh... and the learning!!
 
Geggy :

Watch the video footage of the collapse of the south tower.

You can SEE what happens.

The building starts to give way at the weakest point, i.e. the corner nearest to our viewpoint at the level at which the plane hit.

The undamaged top portion of the tower then falls through the gutted floors. While it does that, dust under pressure billows out continuously from the same point, i.e. the bottom of the hole made by impact.

Then the intact top of the tower crashes into the intact floors below the gutted area, and there's suddenly a lot more dust thrown off at impact, which moves downwards as the top of the tower plows through the intact floors below.

Compare that with ANY controlled demolition.

Here are some more controlled demolitions.

Oh, and here's a question for you --- how the heck can you have a controlled demolition in a building which is on fire? The thing about explosives, y'see, the really crucial fact about explosives, IS THAT THEY BLEEDIN' WELL EXPLODE!

Hence the name "explosives".
 
Belz... said:
So... no micro-nuke under the building, after all ?
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Look again, Belz..., that orange-brown stuff around the base of the building is exactly the same color as the globs of fallout that my workers have to clean up when a nuclear power plant melts down in "Civ III".
 
Dudes and dudesses, I were from any anti-USA group I would surely support and provide "evidence" to back these conspiracy claims. Interesting way to undermine confidence in the government.
 
dubfan said:
Hello all. Had this thread pointed out to me by someone on another forum, and I just want to echo these sentiments.

I'm so angry at these lunatic CTs -- for exactly these reasons -- that I can hardly see straight. There's a thread in the LC forum "Lounge" claiming you guys are "obsessed" with LC.... If only they knew that everyone is coming here for the comedy.

It's been a pleasure watching you guys demolish this piece of rubbish. Sorry for the threadjack... Please continue.
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Welcome dubfan, needless to say, I know how you feel.
 
LC'er "Well the metal melted an stuff and. . .

JREF'er - "According to the table aluminum melts at a temperature of. .

LC'er - "Wow man! Like that's written down someplace! Man its a conspiracy!"

JREF'er -"Davinci proved that freefall was. . .

LC'er "Davinci was in on it man! I'm telling ya."


LC'ers Dylan Avery thinks you are stupid. He made a movie and talked over it. He says stupid things and you second him. Maybe he's right. His audience IS stupid.
 
Belz... said:
Welcome dubfan.

Here's hoping for many hours of you almost passing out in laughter.

Oh... and the learning!!
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Right now, it's my first read of the day. I think it's been averaging at least 2 collapses into hysterics per page, so far. I haven't actually read *all* of the thread, though. I'm saving pages 20-50. Kind of like a little rainy day fund. Or mad money. Ya know, stuff like that.

I just hope someone can find the time and resources to produce a film from Gravy's excellent and very thorough debunking. Normally I can't be bothered to give a CT the time of day, but the fact that this piece of crap is getting airtime thru major media outlets and watching Dylan Avery's head blow up to the size of an exploding 757 as he profits from the dead... Something needs to be done.
 
dubfan said:
Right now, it's my first read of the day. I think it's been averaging at least 2 collapses into hysterics per page, so far. I haven't actually read *all* of the thread, though. I'm saving pages 20-50. Kind of like a little rainy day fund. Or mad money. Ya know, stuff like that.

I just hope someone can find the time and resources to produce a film from Gravy's excellent and very thorough debunking. Normally I can't be bothered to give a CT the time of day, but the fact that this piece of crap is getting airtime thru major media outlets and watching Dylan Avery's head blow up to the size of an exploding 757 as he profits from the dead... Something needs to be done.
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i can probably do a film from gravys debunking i'm a filmmaker, and gravy does live in brooklyn and so do i.....hmm.....
 
geggy said:
The demolishing of WTC started from the top.
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So has there ever been a known controlled demolition that has started from the top?

If you can't provide such an example, then on what grounds can you claim that the WTC looks like a controlled demolition?
 
dubfan said:
Normally I can't be bothered to give a CT the time of day, but the fact that this piece of crap is getting airtime thru major media outlets and watching Dylan Avery's head blow up to the size of an exploding 757 as he profits from the dead... Something needs to be done.
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That about sums up what got me all riled up.

Welcome, dubfan.
 
So, can anyone explain why the Loose Change people seem to think that getting other forums shut down (like the forum on the Flight 93 movie website) is a victory for them? Huh?

Doesn't that just make them really obnoxious trolls?

I mean, this is hilarious:

That great news and it's proof we in the Movement can challenge the lies of 9/11 and clearly win. Universal Pictures is a billion dollar corporation with a massive legal team and probably many high placed political friends. A few dedicated people presented the facts and the truth in the face of a giant corporation that is presently pushing the government's blatant lies on thousands of movie screens across this country and "WON." Universal's decision to close down their Flight 93 Forum, just wasn't made without serious consideration, you can bet Universal's executives and lawyers weighed their decision very carefully. They probably considered many questions, "What message will this send to the American movie-going public, if we take down this Forum?" Could this forum be more determential to the movie if we do nothing?" You get the idea, the many possible questions they must have discussed before "pulling the forum."
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Or, you know, some underpaid webmonkey thought the forum had become too much of a headache.
 
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JPK said:
Good afternoon geggy.
So which one, or combination of these various CTs are you now in favor of believing?
1. Suitcase Nuke planted to demolish the building because the high cost of asbestos removal?
2. Explosive charges built into the WTC from the begining to be detonated at some future time?
3. People secretly smuggling enough explosives into the WTC without being noticed?
Keeping in mind that any of these needed to be timed perfectly with someone elses attempt at taking down to WTC with planes.
And somehow these CTs seem more plausible to you then the official report? You do realize that the official report will have some gaps and some missing info simply because the people writing the report might not have been the ones who organized the attacks in the first place?
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All of them!!!

I'm telling you, man, I've got it figured out. THere were four groups involved:

Group 1: Osama and the gang. They wanted to highjack planes and demand concessions from the US. They were successful at the highjackings. One plane (Flight 77) actually landed in secret, and the terrorists let everyone out for a bathroom break. They were all found and assasinated by Group 2, to maintain Group 2's cover story.

Group 2: Dubya and his Evil Minions. They wanted a symbol so they could get the populace to back the war. They implanted remote control devices into several civillian airliners, with planes to "take them over" in flight and ram them into buildings. Luckily for the Evil Master, Dubya, the flights were actually highjacked, adding credibility to their cover story.

Group 3: Silverstein. See, he wired the WTC buildings with explosives when they were built (he has a time travel device, you know, so he could see the future costs of asbestos removal, and used his time travel device to go back in time and modify the original plans). So he had all these explosives ready to blow. When the planes impacted, he took advantage of the situation to set them off.

Group 4: The Shadowy Unknown Overlords. For reasons of thier own, entirely inscrutible to us common folk, they planted a briefcase nuke in the WTC. The nuke went off when the towers fell on it, and the resultant EMP burst took out Flight 93, causing it to crash. Realizing that their plans went unnoticed because of all the other activity, they decided to launch a missile at the Pentagon, just so they could get something out of it all. THey also stole half of everyone's socks.

See? It makes perfect sense!

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bob_kark said:
I think that's an excellent idea, maybe we should start up a fund.
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Count me in. I'll contribute time, money, computing resources, writing, editing, proofing, research, fact-checking. Whatever and whenever.
 
Ramooone said:
i can probably do a film from gravys debunking i'm a filmmaker, and gravy does live in brooklyn and so do i.....hmm.....
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I could help assembling the evidence -- in particular the pictures/video needed to make one of those talkie things. Lemme spend some more time with Gravy's sources and stuff. Bet we could bang out at least the storyboards in a weekend.

We'd want someone with a less goofy voice than Dylan.
 
bob_kark said:
I think that's an excellent idea, maybe we should start up a fund.
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seeing as Avery and Co. have given renounced claim to copyright of LC2E, it shouldn't be too difficult to produce a new soundtrack to the film, perhaps giving it the full MST3K treatment? Less work than making a whole new film, and many of Gravy's comments fit the style (eg "wake me when they mention something relevant to 9/11") :D
 
Ramooone said:
i can probably do a film from gravys debunking i'm a filmmaker, and gravy does live in brooklyn and so do i.....hmm.....
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There was someone on the United 93 forum before it went AWOL who was talking about making a film, and I suggested he float the idea over here.

If you're reading this, United 93 guy, these are the guys to hook up with.


edit: Wait a minute! Was that you, dubfan?
 
Of course when you include everyone in the conspiracy, somehow you will hit the mark. Notice how the CT never clearly excludes the Al Qaeda component in the conspiracy.
 
brodski said:
seeing as Avery and Co. have given renounced claim to copyright of LC2E, it shouldn't be too difficult to produce a new soundtrack to the film, perhaps giving it the full MST3K treatment? Less work than making a whole new film, and many of Gravy's comments fit the style (eg "wake me when they mention something relevant to 9/11") :D
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That's actually half the idea I had. For the sarcastic stuff, an MST3K approach. For the serious stuff (science, things involving the victims), "Let's go to Evidence Man (or lady)." Business-looking, well groomed, serious, respectful. But still not unwilling to call the Loosers what they are. I'd suggest running a sarcasm comb over the thing to make sure beyond sure that we're sensitive to the victims.
 
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