Limbaugh Takes a Shot at Atheists/Agnostics

[valis]

If you're being serious there, cool. I just felt like you were being unfair to Roadtoad.

Well I wish I could say I was being serious but actually I was not.

I interpret this:

I will give Limbaugh credit, though: At the risk of losing his audience, he came out loud and strong against David Duke when he ran for Governor of Louisiana.

To mean; it can be assumed that the type of people that listen to Rush would tend to be in agreement with David Duke. I say this because of the statement "..At the risk of losing his audience..". And because I think of the core audience or the Rush Limbaugh Show as being primarily Republican. I think those are reasonable assumptions to make.

If you disagree then we should agree to disagree or simply agree that I am right. Whichever you prefer.

 

[Moochie]

As an outsider looking in to your society, I find that there are very few independent thinkers extant in America today. If they exist, their voices are muted or repressed.

Seems to me America used to be a much freer country than it's been the past 50 odd years.

As for Limbaugh, I'm astonished anyone here takes this person seriously.

M.

 

[delphi_ote]

If you disagree then we should agree to disagree or simply agree that I am right. Whichever you prefer.

Good day, sir.

 

[VoloVersio]

Rush doesn't get himself ANYWHERE spouting this BS, so I'm not really worried about it. If he doesn't understand, or just refuses to understand, why atheists are atheists and agnostics are agnostics, then his whole pathetic argument pretty much shrivels and dies.

 

[Zbu]

The best summation of Rush's whole schtick and worth as a human being.

Here's a sample, excuse the language and I'll try to censor:

But here's what I don't get. Rush is the mouth piece of the hombre myth. He is the mask of right wing ***** who are afraid of every ****ing thing. He's supposed to portray their cowardice as machismo. You're a watery, bloody, leaking, p*ssy who's so afraid of terrorists that he would shred the Constitution to avoid a 1/50 million chance of being killed by Al Qaeda? You're so afraid of crime and/or black people that you want to lock up troubled twelve-year-olds for life so they can never ever get you? You’re so intimidated by sex that you would actually block efforts to prevent STDs? You're so afraid of death that you have to pretend that you'll wind up floating on a cloud with Grams and Gramps, Jesus and the cat that got run over when you were eight? Rush's job is to convince you that, you, fruitcake, are in actuality a tough guy. You're tough on terrorism. You're tough on crime. You're not weak and afraid, but abstinent. You're strong in your faith. It's those whiny liberals who are the wimps. Horses**t.

 

[CFLarsen]

The only time I listen to Limbaugh is when I need a traffic report.

Don't you have some sort of national service for that kind of thing?

We do here. Much appreciated.

 

[delphi_ote]

Don't you have some sort of national service for that kind of thing?

We do here. Much appreciated.

Whenever you want to figure out if the U.S. Government spends money on something, ask yourself, "Could this potentially be used to make killing people in other countries easier?" If the answer is, "No." odds are we don't spend money on it.

 

[rwguinn]

[attempt to derail by:

Don't you have some sort of national service for that kind of thing?

We do here. Much appreciated.

[/derail]

not unreasonable, since your entire country would fit in the Houston, Texas area. Go look at a map.
Geographically, such a "national service" is unfeasible.

 

[Rob Lister]

Don't you have some sort of national service for that kind of thing?

We do here. Much appreciated.

That was funny, as was the second response to it.

I can just imagine the government bureocarcy such a service would create. It might be bigger than the DHD, FBI, CIA, ATF and IRS combined.

I shudder at the thought...I cringe at the resultant...timely...reports.

 

[VoloVersio]

That was funny, as was the second response to it.

I can just imagine the government bureocarcy such a service would create. It might be bigger than the DHD, FBI, CIA, ATF and IRS combined.

I shudder at the thought...I cringe at the resultant...timely...reports.

 

[valis]

Good day, sir.

Yes I repeatadly stated what I thought, when I felt you did not understand it I attempted to clarify, how weaslelike of me!



Perhaps you meant this?

 

[valis]

As an outsider looking in to your society, I find that there are very few independent thinkers extant in America today. If they exist, their voices are muted or repressed.

Seems to me America used to be a much freer country than it's been the past 50 odd years.

As for Limbaugh, I'm astonished anyone here takes this person seriously.

M.

Well that is certainly interesting! What specific freedoms do you feel were greater in the America of 1956?

 

[Roadtoad]

As an outsider looking in to your society, I find that there are very few independent thinkers extant in America today. If they exist, their voices are muted or repressed.

On the contrary, Moochie. There are many independent thinkers in this country, and they're anything BUT muted. The problem is finding SMART thinkers in this country.

Seems to me America used to be a much freer country than it's been the past 50 odd years.

Unless you're gay, black, a woman, an immigrant.

Part of the problem with our declining state of liberty in this country is that we have too many people who not only expect, but demand, that the government provide or mandate certain services to people. And while some of that might not have happened if the government didn't get involved, you have to wonder how things might have developed if people had accepted their own responsibilities, not only to themselves, but to one another.

As for Limbaugh, I'm astonished anyone here takes this person seriously.

M.

But there ARE people who take him seriously, primarily because there were those on the political Left and in the government, especially those who mandated the "Fairness" Doctrine in all Broadcast Media, who kept guys like Limbaugh quiet. Had we been hearing guys like him from the beginning, we'd have been used to this sort of silliness, and it would have been easier to dismiss. As it is, with Congressional Democrats screaming for a return to the Fairness Doctrin, Limbaugh gains an even greater following because he's not only a novelty, comparatively speaking, but because listening to him has the cachet of being "forbidden."

The rest of us realize this and either switch stations, or turn the damn thing off.

 

[T'ai Chi]

break it down...

I learned about God through a local pastor
He said I'm a sinner cuz I thought I'm the master
Of my own destiny
Jus' like satan don'cha see?
But I didn't fight with him, it'd be a disaster.

Yeah, boooyyyy...



(I can't rap)

Nice rap!

 

[CFLarsen]

There are many independent thinkers in this country, and they're anything BUT muted. The problem is finding SMART thinkers in this country.

If I said that....

 

[Roadtoad]

If I said that....

But you didn't.

 

[CFLarsen]

But you didn't.

No, but if I did, there would be an outrage...

 

[westphalia]

It's regrettable that an agnostic or atheist has to be liberal by default, at least in common parlance. I generally don't see why conservative beliefs can't be held by a secularist. I grant that atheists sometimes have a hard time of it in a party that seems dominated by Christians, but I've always maintained that those folks get more credit than they deserve for motivating Republican policies.

Limbaugh does far more damage than good for real conservatives. What passes for conservatism among fans of Rush Limbaugh, isn't.

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

It's regrettable that an agnostic or atheist has to be liberal by default, at least in common parlance. I generally don't see why conservative beliefs can't be held by a secularist. I grant that atheists sometimes have a hard time of it in a party that seems dominated by Christians, but I've always maintained that those folks get more credit than they deserve for motivating Republican policies.

When I was a College Republican, I knew that there were about 4-5 members who were admitted atheists, one of them would eventually become my girlfriend. They agreed with the semi-free market principles of the GOP, but they were uncomfortable with the Religious Right, especially with their anti-abortion and anti-gay leanings. However, they didn't think their pro-capitalist beliefs would be welcomed in the Democratic party. Rather than be "outed" as atheist, they'd nod their heads and keep their mouths shut whenever guests like Bill Bennett and Walter Williams were brought in to pontificate on "values" and imply that only traditional Christians have them.

When I dropped religion, it was pretty clear that the fundies had taken over the GOP so I left that. Since I had also abandoned my anti-abortion and homophobic beliefs, I could not in call myself a "conservative." Therefore I dabbled in anarcho-capitalism (I read one too many L. Neil Smith novels), then I joined the Libertarian Party. When I discovered that the LP was a den of schizos and black helicopter watchers, I turned my back on politics all together. I realized that it doesn't matter who is elected to office, because it's always going to be a greedy, power-hungry, control freak who is bent on telling everyone how to live and there was nothing anyone could do about it.

 

[westphalia]

I don't find much problem with the religious righties in the Republican Party, since I don't believe they hold nearly the power the GOP leadership allows them to think they hold. It does get uncomfortable at times, though. I'm more than a little tired of political gatherings where some local yokel feels the need to "open with prayer."

It's difficult for me to understand a humanist not being bothered by unfettered abortion, but - hey! - that's just me.

I share your views completely on the Libertarian Party. I sympathize with so much of their outlook, but that party is a non-starter. Folks from all over the political spectrum, conspiracy nuts - you name it. I admire Shermer for trying to stick with it, but I can't do it.