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The behaviour of UK police officers.

Rolfe said:
A long thread with multiple examples of the police facilitating masked (mainly male) "counter-protestors" to attack and disrupt organised women's rights meetings.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2099019419217272895

This isn't just one or two aberrant individuals making a poor call, this is policy. It was particularly blatant with Tom Harlow in Edinburgh because of the position he took up, but support for the screaming mob arriving to attack women's events is SOP.
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Have you evidence she is speaking the truth?
 
Wudang said:
From her wikipedia page
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Oh yes, I know her history and habits. Hence my request for independent corroboration of anything she claims
She popped up in the UK Politics thread recently.

catsmate

Post in thread 'General UK politics VIII - The Last Tory'

Gulliver Foyle said:
May I remind everybody that Rolfe is quoting Kelly Jane Keane, a woman who openly associates with nazi terrrorist groups.
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Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull.
Anyway, it's Posie Parker, who is (as @Gulliver Foyle pointed out) transphobic scum who has associated with white supremacist racists like Jean-François Gariépy and "Tommy Robinson".
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Suit yourself. Plenty of evidence in the thread, plus others chiming in with corroboration and/or additional examples.
 
catsmate said:
LMP has dismissed a thirteenth officer over long term misogyny and racism at Charing Cross police station.
www.theguardian.com

Thirteenth Met police officer sacked after undercover BBC investigation

PC Mason O’Connor dismissed following Panorama film showing misogyny and racism at London police station
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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One comment "On Tuesday, a disciplinary panel heard that O’Connor told a female colleague in October 2024 that he “hope[d] you get raped on your way to Waterloo”, while he was off-duty in a pub." got him the sack. I think one comment like that is enough to commence disciplinary investigations, but the sack over one comment seems harsh. I would want it to be evidenced it was part of his normal behaviour, or it was part of a campaign of harassment against the female officer, before he was sacked. For all we know, she was mouthing off about him and he was retaliating, or it was a drunken attempt at humour from someone normally respectful and decent.
 
I think they know perfectly well what they're doing. Harassing people is fun and easy to do. They're not even expecting a conviction. They just enjoy the power trip and it's easier and safer than going after actual crime.
 
Nessie said:
One comment "On Tuesday, a disciplinary panel heard that O’Connor told a female colleague in October 2024 that he “hope[d] you get raped on your way to Waterloo”, while he was off-duty in a pub." got him the sack. I think one comment like that is enough to commence disciplinary investigations, but the sack over one comment seems harsh.
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Sorry, but he's goneburger, and so he should be. NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING justifies a comment like that to any female, let alone another officer. That attitude is clearly his mindset, and a clear indication he does not belong in any kid of position of authority.
 
smartcooky said:
Sorry, but he's goneburger, and so he should be. NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING justifies a comment like that to any female, let alone another officer. That attitude is clearly his mindset, and a clear indication he does not belong in any kid of position of authority.
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I think it's an interview question for new recruits.

"Do you harbour any racist, misogynistic or biased thoughts?"

"I'm afraid I do, I'll leave now."

"The ◊◊◊◊ you will, are you available to start tomorrow, we'll get you on crowd control"
 
Rolfe said:
I think they know perfectly well what they're doing. Harassing people is fun and easy to do. They're not even expecting a conviction. They just enjoy the power trip and it's easier and safer than going after actual crime.
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I see two inexperienced, poorly led young police officers, who genuinely think they are doing the right thing and enforcing with the law. They get it horribly wrong, as other police officers are getting it wrong, trying to police hurty words.

As for "actual crime", it is the public who have made hurty words actual crime. Fewer people are reporting "actual crimes" like housebreaking and assault, because those crimes have been falling for decades now. Online crime, like fraud and many of the instances of hurty words are on the rise and the police have been too slow to react to the change.
 
smartcooky said:
Sorry, but he's goneburger, and so he should be. NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING justifies a comment like that to any female, let alone another officer. That attitude is clearly his mindset, and a clear indication he does not belong in any kid of position of authority.
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I feel very sorry for people who say a wrong thing, and that is the end for them. Businessman and jeweller Gerald Ratner is a well known example of a poorly chose throw away comment that caused the end for him. In other cases, such as Eddie Gray the football pundit, lost his job because of a course of behaviour that was exposed by one comment. Greg Wallace is another, where he lost his TV job over a series of events, whereas John Torode apparently sang a song that had offensive lyrics and that was enough. I am not just applying my opinion to the cop, I am applying it to everyone. One comment that is out of character and apologised for, compared to a comment that is part of their general behaviour and attitude, are very different things.

I bet you that you would not be as harsh on yourself or a friend, if they said one wrong thing.
 
Nessie said:
As for "actual crime", it is the public who have made hurty words actual crime. Fewer people are reporting "actual crimes" like housebreaking and assault, because those crimes have been falling for decades now. Online crime, like fraud and many of the instances of hurty words are on the rise and the police have been too slow to react to the change.
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What utter tripe.

It is POLITICIANS who have made hurty words a crime, and its the woke culture at the College of Policing that has instilled in young officers, right through to the hierarchy, that it is their job to Police speech. Terminology that has been used by the Police in recent times..."We need to check your thinking", and "very Brexity things" and actions like "taking the knee"didn't spring out of nowhere. It tells me quite clearly that young Police officers are being indoctrinated with the political philosophy of the loony left.
 
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Nessie said:
I feel very sorry for people who say a wrong thing, and that is the end for them. Businessman and jeweller Gerald Ratner is a well known example of a poorly chose throw away comment that caused the end for him. In other cases, such as Eddie Gray the football pundit, lost his job because of a course of behaviour that was exposed by one comment. Greg Wallace is another, where he lost his TV job over a series of events, whereas John Torode apparently sang a song that had offensive lyrics and that was enough. I am not just applying my opinion to the cop, I am applying it to everyone. One comment that is out of character and apologised for, compared to a comment that is part of their general behaviour and attitude, are very different things.

I bet you that you would not be as harsh on yourself or a friend, if they said one wrong thing.
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I can tell you that when I was in the Air Force in the 1980s, if I had told an Airwoman "I hope you get raped on your way home" I would have been up on a Section 73 (Conduct Prejudicial to Service Discipline) and a Section 42 (Cruel or Disgraceful Conduct) within the hour, found guilty and been dishonourably discharged by the end of the day.
 
bluesjnr said:
I think it's an interview question for new recruits.

"Do you harbour any racist, misogynistic or biased thoughts?"

"I'm afraid I do, I'll leave now."

"The ◊◊◊◊ you will, are you available to start tomorrow, we'll get you on crowd control"
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Or alternatively:

"Do you harbour any racist, misogynistic or biased thoughts?"

"No."

"No problem, you'll soon pick them up."
 
smartcooky said:
What utter tripe.

It is POLITICIANS who have made hurty words a crime, and its the woke culture at the College of Policing that has instilled in young officers, right through to the hierarchy, that it is their job to Police speech. Terminology that has been used by the Police in recent times..."We need to check your thinking", and "very Brexity things" and actions like "taking the knee"didn't spring out of nowhere. It tells me quite clearly that young Police officers are being indoctrinated with the political philosophy of the loony left.
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The public got access to telephones and some started to use them to abuse others with hurty words and nuisances.

Politicians passed Communications Acts because of that problem.

The public then got access to social media and some started to use it to abuse.

Politicians passed hate speech laws because of that problem.

The police have enforced those laws and the people who think abuse of others is OK, do not like that and they concentrate on the times the police have gone over the top and got it wrong.
 
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