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Roger Waters promotes 9/11 conspiracy theories...

Uhhhhh, so now the fact that one once wielded a wallpaper brush and a backpack full of leaflets makes one an expert? I once had a job delivering the Penny Saver, does that mean I'm an expert on garage sales and thrift shops?

Also, @Foster Zygote hardly made him out to be "inconsequential". He literally listed him as having written in whole or in part every song on the entire first album!
Vixen has never encountered a topic on which myriad life experiences have not made her an instant expert. A true polymath in every sense of the word.
ETA fixed typo.
 
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You can't teach me anything...
That certainly seems to be the consensus around here.

I once fly posted for Blackhill Enterprises.
You must have had such penetrating access to the inner managerial workings and personal relationships of said management company, what with putting up promotional posters for them. What years did you do this, by the way?

'Syd' was an undiagnosed (then) schizophrenic.
And you know this, how? I'm not aware of him ever having been diagnosed as schizophrenic at any point. His own family members have said that he was not diagnosed with any mental illness, and that he was never given or recommended any therapy or medication.

He was also arty and creative; the weird genius impetus behind early Pink Floyd...
As I said, a charming, witty, creative mad genius.

although I note your attempt to brush him off as inconsequential.
This is where I wonder if you're deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote, or if your reading comprehension is just that lacking. Did you not read my comments about him having written most of the songs on The Piper at the Gates of Dawn? Did you not read my account of his band mates missing their "charming, witty, creative mad genius"?

You can't just ignore the fact of his excessive LSD use. There are numerous accounts by people remarking about his rapid personality change. There are reports of his standing about on stage, strumming a single chord, or not playing at all, while staring off into space. Stories about him not knowing where he was, forgetting to bring his gear.

I don't care what your Wikipedia PR says,
Pink Floyd was one of my earliest musical obsessions, going back some forty three yeas ago. As a kid, the closest I ever came to having a nickname was in the early '80s when my friend José called me "Floyd" in reference to my affinity for the band. But because he was the only one who did so, it never stuck. Some of the first songs I ever learned to play were Pink Floyd songs. I know your knee-jerk reaction is to establish that anyone who disagrees with you about anything is inferior to yourself in knowledge, but I don't need to reference Wikipedia to have a conversation about Pink Floyd.

...his bandmates treated him appallingly.
How so? By not wanting to continue putting up with his drug abuse and the effect it was having on their writing, recording and performances? Were they treating him appallingly by making sure he continued to receive the royalty payments that supported him for the rest of his life?
[Snipped rambling.]

Yeah yeah everyone thinks Wish you were here and DSOTM is great but I stopped listening after Ummagumma. Just another over-commercialised band.
Opinions are subjective.
Just my 2p worth.
Seems realistic.
 
You can't just ignore the fact of his excessive LSD use. There are numerous accounts by people remarking about his rapid personality change.
It would have been like trying to keep Brian Wilson on with the Beach Boys. There came a point where the band had to make a choice, and they did. I treat Pink Floyd as two bands. Syd left his mark, when he was there it was his band. After he was out, well, the rest is history. And Waters is a wiener head. Always was.
 
It would have been like trying to keep Brian Wilson on with the Beach Boys. There came a point where the band had to make a choice, and they did. I treat Pink Floyd as two bands. Syd left his mark, when he was there it was his band. After he was out, well, the rest is history. And Waters is a wiener head. Always was.

And as bad as Brian Wilson was, there was still a nugget of genius in there. He couldn't tour, but he could semi-function as a writer. Syd had nothing, from what I understand. He was well and truly fried.
 
From National Review:

Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters and comedian Jimmy Dore are set to headline a four-day 9/11 conspiracy theory conference in New York City, during the 25th anniversary of the attack.​
Hosted by the International Center for 9/11 Justice, “Turning the Tide: 9/11 25 Years Later” will take place in East Harlem’s El Museo del Barrio. The museum is publicly subsidized by the City of New York, but it appears to be renting space to the group, not sponsoring the event.​
The event includes a smattering of speakers, many of whom have alleged the U.S. and Israel profited from and were involved in orchestrating the 9/11 attacks.​
Organizers with 9/11 Justice have described their mission as creating a “post-post-9/11 world,” in which the U.S. is no longer “shaped by the false official account of 9/11.” . . .​
The director of “9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money,” James Corbett; the author of “Loose Change,” Jason Bermas; the author of “The Call for Help : 911 the Other Side,” and 39 others are schedule to speak.​
Corbett’s 2015 documentary claims that a spike in “put options” on United and American Airlines leading up to 9/11 proves that certain traders had prior knowledge of and profited from the attacks. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission began investigating the matter on September 12, 2001 and concluded there was no evidence that anyone who had advanced knowledge on the attacks traded on the basis of that information.​
Another speaker, James Li, has recently branched out of 9/11 theories. His most recent documentaries on YouTube are titled, “They Aren’t Building AI Data Centers (It’s Way Worse),” “TPUSA 2.0: Why Charlie Kirk Had to Die (Allegedly),” and “Is Jared Kushner Mossad?”​
The goals listed on the International Center for 9/11 Justice’s website include “organizing, preserving, and presenting the best empirical 9/11 research” and “raising mass public awareness and sparking broad-based demand for justice for the millions of people affected by 9/11 and its aftermath.”​
Tickets for all four days of the conference are listed at $160.​
"a post-post-9/11 world" :rolleyes:
 
From National Review:

Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters and comedian Jimmy Dore are set to headline a four-day 9/11 conspiracy theory conference in New York City, during the 25th anniversary of the attack.​
Hosted by the International Center for 9/11 Justice, “Turning the Tide: 9/11 25 Years Later” will take place in East Harlem’s El Museo del Barrio. The museum is publicly subsidized by the City of New York, but it appears to be renting space to the group, not sponsoring the event.​
The event includes a smattering of speakers, many of whom have alleged the U.S. and Israel profited from and were involved in orchestrating the 9/11 attacks.​
Organizers with 9/11 Justice have described their mission as creating a “post-post-9/11 world,” in which the U.S. is no longer “shaped by the false official account of 9/11.” . . .​
The director of “9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money,” James Corbett; the author of “Loose Change,” Jason Bermas; the author of “The Call for Help : 911 the Other Side,” and 39 others are schedule to speak.​
Corbett’s 2015 documentary claims that a spike in “put options” on United and American Airlines leading up to 9/11 proves that certain traders had prior knowledge of and profited from the attacks. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission began investigating the matter on September 12, 2001 and concluded there was no evidence that anyone who had advanced knowledge on the attacks traded on the basis of that information.​
Another speaker, James Li, has recently branched out of 9/11 theories. His most recent documentaries on YouTube are titled, “They Aren’t Building AI Data Centers (It’s Way Worse),” “TPUSA 2.0: Why Charlie Kirk Had to Die (Allegedly),” and “Is Jared Kushner Mossad?”​
The goals listed on the International Center for 9/11 Justice’s website include “organizing, preserving, and presenting the best empirical 9/11 research” and “raising mass public awareness and sparking broad-based demand for justice for the millions of people affected by 9/11 and its aftermath.”​
Tickets for all four days of the conference are listed at $160.​
"a post-post-9/11 world" :rolleyes:
Seems to be a dearth of engineers and scientists among the speakers.
 
James and I used to have a saying; scratch a 9-11 Truther and you'll find an anti-Semite underneath. Waters fits the bill.
And anti-Semitism is generally based on conspiracy theories, so they tend to go hand-in-hand. For example, the whole Nazi ideology was generally based on conspiracy theories about Jews.
 

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