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The question is who should. It's likely that some of those on one's "should" list won't be interested.
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Who should run for the Dems?
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Even roll-over-and-play-dead James Carville condemns Hakeem Jeffries' meeting with Jared Kushner!
HAKEEM JEFFRIES IS F*CKED (Secular Talk on YouTube, Aug 26, 2026 – 24:47 min.)
8:13–> Reading press reports about meeting between friend of mine, guy like, uh, going to be Speaker of the House come next January, Hakim Jeffries and Jared Cushner. Let me let me try to explain something and let me, and Hakim, you're a smart guy. You know your caucus, but let me explain something here very very clear. You have Democrats that have different position on Medicare for all, whether that's a good idea. You have Democrats that have different positions on effective policing and there's a whole variety of subjects of which there are some disagreements within the Democratic party. On one thing, on one thing, there is no disagreement. There's unanimity. And it is simply this. In the opinion of every Democrat in the United States, progressive, moderate, middle road, left [ __ ] I don't know, whatever you want, we believe one thing above all: These people are a pack of felons and traitors, and you do not meet with them. You do not meet with them.
There's only one thing you can do with people that you genuinely believe deep inside of every fabric of your body are a pack of thieves in a pack of traitors. That's what we believe. And we going to set out to prove that and said you meet with Jared Kushner. We need to drag his ass before committee and find out what backdoor dealing wh house [ __ ] he's got going on with Steve Whit and everybody else. We're not going to be nice to you. We don't like you. None of you.
Now, if if there comes a certain time where it have to keep the government open and you got to, Yes. If you're forced by that, okay, you got to meet with them and cut a deal.
Not before. [ __ ] these people.
If you sitting there saying I'm taking a meeting with them and people out there knocking on doors, can't sleep at night, standing up in angx worrying about what the hell is going to happen to the country for [ __ ] trillion dollars in debt in an idiotic wall. We're getting the [ __ ] kicked out of us. They have no idea what they doing. They're making every backdoor [ __ ] deal they can. They want to meet with them. Don't meet with them. Don't have anything to do with them. say any any business we have is going to be conducted with you under oath, subject to aggressive discovery.
So, you know, y'all can argue with me and you can say, "Well, I I'm a Bernie bro. I'm a this, I'm a that hero like establishment or that [ __ ] people talking institutional establishment." One thing that I know and you know, these are a pack of crooks and they're a pack of people that don't give a [ __ ] about the United States of America. And we don't want to [ __ ] with them unless we absolutely have to. No more meetings. No more [ __ ] All right?
Throw your right hand in there. Put your left hand on the good book or whatever you [ __ ] you put it on and subject yourself to perjury. That's all I'm interested in. That's all Democrats are interested in of every kind of strike. So, let's cut the [ __ ] out and treat these people exactly what they are and for what they are.
From a video (3:51 min.) on X
Even roll-over-and-play-dead James Carville condemns Hakeem Jeffries' meeting with Jared Kushner!
HAKEEM JEFFRIES IS F*CKED (Secular Talk on YouTube, Aug 26, 2026 – 24:47 min.)
8:13–> Reading press reports about meeting between friend of mine, guy like, uh, going to be Speaker of the House come next January, Hakim Jeffries and Jared Cushner. Let me let me try to explain something and let me, and Hakim, you're a smart guy. You know your caucus, but let me explain something here very very clear. You have Democrats that have different position on Medicare for all, whether that's a good idea. You have Democrats that have different positions on effective policing and there's a whole variety of subjects of which there are some disagreements within the Democratic party. On one thing, on one thing, there is no disagreement. There's unanimity. And it is simply this. In the opinion of every Democrat in the United States, progressive, moderate, middle road, left [ __ ] I don't know, whatever you want, we believe one thing above all: These people are a pack of felons and traitors, and you do not meet with them. You do not meet with them.
There's only one thing you can do with people that you genuinely believe deep inside of every fabric of your body are a pack of thieves in a pack of traitors. That's what we believe. And we going to set out to prove that and said you meet with Jared Kushner. We need to drag his ass before committee and find out what backdoor dealing wh house [ __ ] he's got going on with Steve Whit and everybody else. We're not going to be nice to you. We don't like you. None of you.
Now, if if there comes a certain time where it have to keep the government open and you got to, Yes. If you're forced by that, okay, you got to meet with them and cut a deal.
Not before. [ __ ] these people.
If you sitting there saying I'm taking a meeting with them and people out there knocking on doors, can't sleep at night, standing up in angx worrying about what the hell is going to happen to the country for [ __ ] trillion dollars in debt in an idiotic wall. We're getting the [ __ ] kicked out of us. They have no idea what they doing. They're making every backdoor [ __ ] deal they can. They want to meet with them. Don't meet with them. Don't have anything to do with them. say any any business we have is going to be conducted with you under oath, subject to aggressive discovery.
So, you know, y'all can argue with me and you can say, "Well, I I'm a Bernie bro. I'm a this, I'm a that hero like establishment or that [ __ ] people talking institutional establishment." One thing that I know and you know, these are a pack of crooks and they're a pack of people that don't give a [ __ ] about the United States of America. And we don't want to [ __ ] with them unless we absolutely have to. No more meetings. No more [ __ ] All right?
Throw your right hand in there. Put your left hand on the good book or whatever you [ __ ] you put it on and subject yourself to perjury. That's all I'm interested in. That's all Democrats are interested in of every kind of strike. So, let's cut the [ __ ] out and treat these people exactly what they are and for what they are.
From a video (3:51 min.) on X
Hasan Piker actually warns against conflating anti-Zionism with antisemitism, and he condemns the latter.
As Mike Figueredo explains:
It makes sense in this context for Hakeem Jeffries to collaborate with Jared Kushner and MAGA. Right-wing Democrats don't want universal health care and they do want AIPAC money.
I didn't think much of James Talarico, but this is just beautiful!
0:53–> The only minority destroying America is the billionaires. [cheering]
Trans people are 1% of the population.
Muslims are 1% of the population.
Undocumented people are 1% of the population.
We are focused on the wrong 1 percent! [cheering]
Trans people aren't taking away our healthcare.
Muslims aren't defunding our schools.
Immigrants aren't cutting taxes for themselves and their rich friends.
It's the billionaires and their puppet politicians.
The culture wars are a smoke screen.
So many of the divisions in this state and in this country are manufactured by billionaires who want us fighting each other instead of fighting them.
They want us, they want us looking left and right at our neighbors instead of looking up at them.
The biggest divide in our politics is not left versus right.
It's top versus bottom.
The video also has a great quotable sound-bite from Abdul El-Sayed.
Also a quote from Jen Psaki (MS NOW), which is a little longer.
0:53–> The only minority destroying America is the billionaires. [cheering]
Trans people are 1% of the population.
Muslims are 1% of the population.
Undocumented people are 1% of the population.
We are focused on the wrong 1 percent! [cheering]
Trans people aren't taking away our healthcare.
Muslims aren't defunding our schools.
Immigrants aren't cutting taxes for themselves and their rich friends.
It's the billionaires and their puppet politicians.
The culture wars are a smoke screen.
So many of the divisions in this state and in this country are manufactured by billionaires who want us fighting each other instead of fighting them.
They want us, they want us looking left and right at our neighbors instead of looking up at them.
The biggest divide in our politics is not left versus right.
It's top versus bottom.
The video also has a great quotable sound-bite from Abdul El-Sayed.
Also a quote from Jen Psaki (MS NOW), which is a little longer.
Looks like she won't be running, for now at least.
Seattle couple abruptly withdraws petition to recall Mayor Katie Wilson
The effort to recall Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson came to an abrupt end Thursday afternoon when the couple who filed the petition appeared in court asking to with
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theprestige
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Seattle's loss our gain, I suppose.Looks like she won't be running, for now at least.
Seattle couple abruptly withdraws petition to recall Mayor Katie Wilson
The effort to recall Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson came to an abrupt end Thursday afternoon when the couple who filed the petition appeared in court asking to with
It's hilarious to see MAGA warn establishment Democrats against DSA candidates! They now appear to have become MAGA allies instead of 'Dumocrats':
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– [Gustavo] Gordillo has come under fire for not previously disclosing that he lives in a $ 1.5 million home in Brooklyn and that he is no longer a union electrician.
Lex Voytek: Oh no, they're doing a champagne socialist bid again. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation where if you claim to be a socialist but have any sort of means, then you must be a hypocritical grifter. Or if you're a working-class person that doesn't have means but is also promoting socialism, then you must just be jealous of the wealthy and you're promoting a system that has no upward mobility. In fact, at worst, you might be trying to steal everybody's wealth so that everybody around you can be poor.
Fox host: It can't be what they're about, Dan. They're not simply looking out for the working class and the working man. We have seen this over and over. These are the entitled, educated, downwardly mobile, grew-up-rich kids of America who are pioneering the DSA.
Dan Bongino: So if you're a Democrat out there, a prominent Democrat, elected Democrat, a party leader or an activist, Hasan Piker and his candidates are using your brand and your movement, it's not good enough to say, "Well, listen. We're a big-tent party and we have a lot of different ideas." Yeah. One of them includes celebrating the murder of a prominent political activist on the right. Like that's kind of a big deal. Like the quality or lack of of the idea matters under that brand. So that's just the evil component of it. The second subset which you addressed is this other guy who lives in a $ 1.5 million home. These are just straight up frauds. These are the Bernie Sanders of the worlds, the millionaires, okay? These people are fake, phony.
Lex Voytek: Oh, you didn't think we were going to get through this video without talking about Hasan of course, because of course he's another one of these socialists that they claim are frauds.
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– [Gustavo] Gordillo has come under fire for not previously disclosing that he lives in a $ 1.5 million home in Brooklyn and that he is no longer a union electrician.
Lex Voytek: Oh no, they're doing a champagne socialist bid again. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation where if you claim to be a socialist but have any sort of means, then you must be a hypocritical grifter. Or if you're a working-class person that doesn't have means but is also promoting socialism, then you must just be jealous of the wealthy and you're promoting a system that has no upward mobility. In fact, at worst, you might be trying to steal everybody's wealth so that everybody around you can be poor.
Fox host: It can't be what they're about, Dan. They're not simply looking out for the working class and the working man. We have seen this over and over. These are the entitled, educated, downwardly mobile, grew-up-rich kids of America who are pioneering the DSA.
Dan Bongino: So if you're a Democrat out there, a prominent Democrat, elected Democrat, a party leader or an activist, Hasan Piker and his candidates are using your brand and your movement, it's not good enough to say, "Well, listen. We're a big-tent party and we have a lot of different ideas." Yeah. One of them includes celebrating the murder of a prominent political activist on the right. Like that's kind of a big deal. Like the quality or lack of of the idea matters under that brand. So that's just the evil component of it. The second subset which you addressed is this other guy who lives in a $ 1.5 million home. These are just straight up frauds. These are the Bernie Sanders of the worlds, the millionaires, okay? These people are fake, phony.
Lex Voytek: Oh, you didn't think we were going to get through this video without talking about Hasan of course, because of course he's another one of these socialists that they claim are frauds.
Mamdani
The videos get more likes and viewers watch longer?!
Yea, that's suspicious!
Michael Hobbes on bsky, Sep 4, 2026
The Times describes this as an "influencer operation" but it kinda just seems like ... Mamdani is popular?www.nytimes.com/2026/09/04/n... 1/5
The videos get more likes and viewers watch longer?!
Yea, that's suspicious!
Talarico may be a fraud!
In spite of what I quoted in posts 787 and 791, I fear that James Talarico may be a BSer after all:
No, Talarico! You can't actually "do both of those things at the same time!." They are diametrically opposed to each other!
This is just as bad as Biden's We’re America. We can do both.
Does Talarico actually believe this? Has he bought into the fossil-fuel industry's (ExxonMobile's, in particular) greenwashing lie about 'carbon capture'?
Or is he just another Big Oil shill, deliberately lying to the voters the same way Biden and Harris did?
Talarico promotes at least the first four of the fossil-fuel industry's five major current lies:
It makes me wonder if Talarico's own school was one of those "here in Texas funded by the oil and gas industry."
Later on in the interview, he says:
In spite of what I quoted in posts 787 and 791, I fear that James Talarico may be a BSer after all:
No, Talarico! You can't actually "do both of those things at the same time!." They are diametrically opposed to each other!
This is just as bad as Biden's We’re America. We can do both.
Does Talarico actually believe this? Has he bought into the fossil-fuel industry's (ExxonMobile's, in particular) greenwashing lie about 'carbon capture'?
Or is he just another Big Oil shill, deliberately lying to the voters the same way Biden and Harris did?
Talarico promotes at least the first four of the fossil-fuel industry's five major current lies:
It makes me wonder if Talarico's own school was one of those "here in Texas funded by the oil and gas industry."
Later on in the interview, he says:
Unfortunately, the interviewer doesn't ask him what those ways to 'do both' are. I doubt that his answer would be anything other than the lie about carbon capture and storage.
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shemp
a flimsy character...perfidious and despised
I've reached the point where if the choices were Satan or Ken Paxton, I'd vote for Satan.
He knows you would!
That's why he's now making promises to the fossil-fuel industry instead of to you.
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Read the OP. This thread is specifically about who should run for President in 2028 among the Democrats. That ain't Mamdani.Did anybody claim that Mamdani was going to run for president???
theprestige
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I think he's trying to say that someone should run on the same vibes that got Mamdani elected, since those seem to be popular vibes right now.
Though he does seem a lot more focused on what than on who, criticizing campaign rhetoric and platforms, rather than opining whether so and so should run or not.
1) Read the title of this thread: Who should run for the Dems? It doesn't say anything about running for president. The OP does mention that Clooney should run for president, and so what?
2) In a country that is so prone to turning politics into cults of personality, it is no wonder that you want the discussion to be focussed on who rather than what – in particular when your current cult of personality worships a cult leader who is crumbling into paranoid-fueled dementia in a spectacle for the whole world to watch on a daily basis.
3) Since yours is a representative democracy and focussed much more than most on the apparent charisma of those personalities instead of on their politics, it is fairly obvious why it bothers you that I tend to focus more on the latter.
4) In the case of James Talarico, I focus mainly on what he actually says about his politics instead of on his way of presenting it, which is what you would no doubt prefer, i.e. does he come across as somebody electable that the donor class might consider betting on? However, what he's claiming about climate politics obviously sucks! He is contradicting himself when he repeatedly claims that:
Carbon capture and storage is a multi-billion dollar joke meant to greenwash the continued burning of fossil fuels and thus emission of CO2. 'We' can't actually do both! Carbon capture is utopian science fiction, not at all 'ensured' reality.
The False Promise of Carbon Capture As a Climate Solution (Scientific American, Mar 1, 2024)
Talarico is telling his constituents that joke, and that's the satanic alternative to Ken Paxton that shemp and others bet on.
2) In a country that is so prone to turning politics into cults of personality, it is no wonder that you want the discussion to be focussed on who rather than what – in particular when your current cult of personality worships a cult leader who is crumbling into paranoid-fueled dementia in a spectacle for the whole world to watch on a daily basis.
3) Since yours is a representative democracy and focussed much more than most on the apparent charisma of those personalities instead of on their politics, it is fairly obvious why it bothers you that I tend to focus more on the latter.
4) In the case of James Talarico, I focus mainly on what he actually says about his politics instead of on his way of presenting it, which is what you would no doubt prefer, i.e. does he come across as somebody electable that the donor class might consider betting on? However, what he's claiming about climate politics obviously sucks! He is contradicting himself when he repeatedly claims that:
He is telling a blatant lie when he claims that Exxon Mobile has ensured that the fossil-fuel industry "can continue to grow while capturing these harmful emissions." It's not what is actually happening! Both of those things can't happen at the same time. They couldn't under Biden and they can't in Talarico's scenario.
Carbon capture and storage is a multi-billion dollar joke meant to greenwash the continued burning of fossil fuels and thus emission of CO2. 'We' can't actually do both! Carbon capture is utopian science fiction, not at all 'ensured' reality.
The False Promise of Carbon Capture As a Climate Solution (Scientific American, Mar 1, 2024)
Talarico is telling his constituents that joke, and that's the satanic alternative to Ken Paxton that shemp and others bet on.