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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

Yes, of course, 'line of sight' is the official version of the 'live' tv broadcast, 250K miles away, with no problem with the images.

That Earth has line of sight to the moon is a commonplace observation. One can look up and see the moon when it's overhead, and it's always overhead somewhere on Earth.

You have yet to articulate a single problem with getting a tv image back to earth from the moon that a) is an actual problem, b) that a satellite would significantly help with, and c) could not be solved some other way.
 
Telstar 1 amplified the incoming high frequency microwave signals and then retransmitted them to a receiving ground station on another continent, in this case, France (via USA).
Telstar 1 operated at 14 watts and transmitted omnidirectionally. Its transmissions were so weak that one needed specially constructed antennas to receive its signals. Telstar's added value was not in boosting signal strength, but in allowing line of sight around the earth's curvature.
 
You’re not being abused. You’ve been given ample opportunity to answer the questions put to you. Instead you have evaded and insulted. You are a victim only of your own bad behavior.

What I wrote was factual:

Telstar 1 amplified the incoming high frequency microwave signals and then retransmitted them to a receiving ground station on anpther continent, in this case, France (via USA)

I am not a punchbag.
 
Telstar 1 amplified the incoming high frequency microwave signals and then retransmitted them to a receiving ground station on another continent, in this case, France (via USA).
No. The retransmitted signal wasn't amplified. It was only 14 Watts, and was broadcast omnidirectionally, making it a very weak transmitter.

Now what was it about the antenna broadcasting to Telstar 1 (or any communications satellite), and the other antenna receiving the retransmitted signal from Telstar 1 that was fundamentally different from the antennae used by the Apollo spacecraft/LRV and the 70 meter antennae of the Deep Space Tracking Network?
 
It was a part of Arthur C Clarke's vision of a communications system, re telephone, telegraph and tv.
And what is it, specifically, about the shape of the earth that makes an orbital satellite useful for long range radio communications between different locations on earth?

Why would this apply to communications between the earth and the moon?
 
No. The retransmitted signal wasn't amplified. It was only 14 Watts, and was broadcast omnidirectionally, making it a very weak transmitter.

Now what was it about the antenna broadcasting to Telstar 1 (or any communications satellite), and the other antenna receiving the retransmitted signal from Telstar 1 that was fundamentally different from the antennae used by the Apollo spacecraft/LRV and the 70 meter antennae of the Deep Space Tracking Network?
Before I come to that here is the source of my summing up, so actually correct:

Telstar is such a satellite for the overseas transmission of microwaves. Like the relay towers on land, it picks up microwave signals carrying television or other types of communications, amplifies them billions of times and then transmits them to receiving stations thousands of miles distant. Telstar is a 34½ inch sphere of 15,000 parts. It weighs 170 pounds and is orbiting the earth every 158 minutes at an apogee of 3,502 miles and a perigee of 593 miles. It was designed and built by the Bell Telephone Laboratories, paid for by the American Telephone and Telegraph Company and launched into orbit from Cape Canaveral with a three-stage Thor-Delta rocket built by the Douglas Aircraft Company. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration launched the satellite, the costs being paid by A.T.&T. Another satellite, Telstar II, is being prepared by A. T. & T. for launching this year. A third, named Relay, is being built for NASA under contract by the Radio Corporation of America and will also be launched in 1962. Both the A. T. & T. and the Relay satellites, though different in design and equipment, are of the type known as the "active," or "repeater," satellite. They receive, amplify, and re-transmit signals from earth with equipment they contain within themselves. Telstar, for example, amplifies the signal it receives ten billion times. Active satellites differ from the “passive" type, such as Echo, which do not carry amplifying and transmission equipment, but serve merely as reflectors from which signals sent to them are bounced back to earth, as in radar. Echo, an inflatable balloon launched in 1960, is still in orbit. NYT
 
And what is it, specifically, about the shape of the earth that makes an orbital satellite useful for long range radio communications between different locations on earth?

Why would this apply to communications between the earth and the moon?

This wikimedia image should sum it all up:

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As we already determined before, satellites via the Moon would only work via four legrange points - not shown here - so unless there are further logistics for the guys on the Moon this makes all the work already on their cribsheet another headache. ( cf Hill Sphere)
 
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This wikimedia image should sum it all up:

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As we already determined before, satellites via the Moon would only work via four legrande points - not shown here - so unless there are further logistics for the guys on the Moon this makes all the work already on their cribsheet another headache. ( cf Hill Sphere)
There's that royal "we" again. your majesty.

That cartoon seems to be missing a rather important component - the Moon.

"satellites via the moon" is yet another nonsensical statement.
 

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