General Israel/Palestine discussion thread - Part 4

[Resume]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Today, the Board of Peace reached a HISTORIC agreement for the COMPLETE DISARMAMENT of Hamas and all other armed groups in Gaza. This is a monumental step toward lasting PEACE and SECURITY.

This agreement is a critical step towards Gaza finally being governed by a new Palestinian government that will work closely with the Board of Peace to help the Palestinian people. At the same time, Israel will have the security it deserves, with Gaza no longer used as a base for terror attacks.

This is a major milestone in the implementation of the Trump 20-Point Plan. The agreement will be carried out in carefully structured phases. As disarmament is completed, Israeli forces will withdraw, and the International Stabilization Force will work with a new Palestinian police force to take responsibility for Gaza being safe for its residents and its neighbors.

One year ago there was a violent raging war, humanitarian crisis and hostages kept in brutal captivity. We have made historic progress and there is still much work to do.

I want to thank the mediators—Egypt, Qatar, and Türkiye—for their important efforts, and especially my outstanding team, whose tireless work made this historic breakthrough possible.

The threat that emerged from Gaza on October 7 will NOT be allowed to rebuild!

Under this agreement, Gaza will finally be in the hands of a new Palestinian government that serves its PEOPLE.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL ON THIS AMAZING DEVELOPMENT, THAT EVERYBODY SAID COULD NEVER BE ACHIEVED!

DONALD J. TRUMP
President of the United States of America

So, two weeks before things go boom again?

 

[The Atheist]

So, two weeks before things go boom again?

They're still going boom if you're unlucky enough to be a Palestinian on the West Bank.

Israel never sleeps in pursuit of genocide.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/uae-joins-turkey-saudi-arabia-in-accusing-israel-of-undermining-trump-gaza-plan/

Hamas has offered a plan for Disarmament, supposedly all they had to do for the violence to end, but Israel doesn't like the idea of having to withdraw again from the stolen territory.
Trump won't get his Peace if he doesn't put Israel on a very short leash

 

[The Atheist]

Perfectly sane and normal.

Remember, this is not some random bloke, this is a Cabinet Minister. The Minister in charge of prisons.

Court battle brews over planned crocodile-filled moat at Israeli prison

A legal battle has erupted in Israel over a government plan to build a moat around a prison and fill it with crocodiles.

www.abc.net.au

 

[The Atheist]

Trump won't get his Peace if he doesn't put Israel on a very short leash

And Netanyahu made it clear they won't leave Gaza until Hamas has disarmed.

Easy. We can trust Israel, right?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Israel won't even let anyone but themselves determine what "disarmed" would mean.
And Israel is as bad as the US when it comes to fulfillment of its part of any commitment.

 

[The Atheist]

New day, same behaviour...

Israeli settlers besieging Palestinian families in West Bank village

Israeli security forces have reportedly withdrawn and about a dozen settlers are said to remain at the site where two families have been besieged since Sunday.

www.bbc.com

 

[Planigale]

New day, same behaviour...

Israeli settlers besieging Palestinian families in West Bank village

Israeli security forces have reportedly withdrawn and about a dozen settlers are said to remain at the site where two families have been besieged since Sunday.

www.bbc.com

So the first cohort of the IDF prayed with the besiegers (illegal settlers under Israeli and war criminals under international law) and did nothing to protect Palestinians. The second cohort of the IDF were driven back by the settlers! The third cohort are evicting Palestinians; because that is how you protect them. Probably none of this would have happened if one of the besieged wasn't a US citizen.

Who can believe if the situation was reversed and Palestinians were besieging an illegal Jewish settler settlement that the IDF wouldn't have opened fire and killed Palestinians.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

It's always the same pattern.
If you think like a the current crop of Zionists, violence against Palestinians will stop automatically once there are no more Palestinians.

 

[NatalieSalat]

You gotta like the far left tenacity at bitterness that modern voters won't willingly return to Marxism or even socialism.

 

[NatalieSalat]

Israel won't even let anyone but themselves determine what "disarmed" would mean.
And Israel is as bad as the US when it comes to fulfillment of its part of any commitment.

Uh the British didn't let the IRA decide that other. Or the Allies, Japan.

 

[The Atheist]

You gotta like the far left tenacity at bitterness that modern voters won't willingly return to Marxism or even socialism.

I really do wonder if some posters in this thread get money via the hasbara fund.

Ignoring actual genocide while hand-waving about the "far left" takes a special kind of prejudice.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

The Left-bashing is especially funny, given that Israel started out as a type of Communist country with its Kibbutz communities.
History has to be unlearned to be a good Israel supporter these days.

 

[The Atheist]

History has to be unlearned to be a good Israel supporter these days.

Money's a great motivator, which is why the hasbara budget is +500% this year.

 

[The Atheist]

Ok you pro-Israel things, (I cannot bring myself to refer to them as people) defend this!

Steal the very water of life to build a swimming hole.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-freshwater-springs-being-seized-by-israeli-settlers-2026-08-14/

Now go and have a fat cry about antisemitism you vile ◊◊◊◊◊.

 

[The Atheist]

Where are my pro-Israel pals?

Israel's Ben-Gvir advocates killing '30 to 40' people in Gaza nightly while speaking to ex-hostage

An extremist official in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's cabinet has advocated for killing “30 to 40” people in Gaza each night.

apnews.com

Remember, this is a Cabinet Minister, not some random bloke.

They shouldn’t live. They’re not even people.

But it's not genocide...

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Remember, this is a Cabinet Minister, not some random bloke.

But it's not genocide...

To be fair, he's only a cabinet minister. No doubt he will be severely sanctioned for this attitude, and sacked if he persists, right? Because if not it indicates that those above him think the same, making it effectively government policy. Which can't be right, right?

 

[The Atheist]

No doubt he will be severely sanctioned for this attitude, and sacked if he persists, right?

I believe you can get 1,000,000 to 1 on that.

 

[The Atheist]

Yet again I continue to be 100% not shocked at not seeing the genocide apologist avatars jumping to the defence of these despicable scum.

It's times like this I wish religion was real so I could at least be comforted by the thought they'd all be getting their balls roasted for a few million years.

 

[xyv]

Religion is very real. The various beliefs of religion on the other hand...