Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

[welshdean]

If it makes you feel better. I once had a boss who used to bring me 'brainteasers' every morning.

I think you meant 'Malteasers', and you probably knocked the box over.

 

[Mojo]

Sorry, there should have been a comma there indicating or, as in a different method, by combustion. Although it should have been obvious electrolysis and combustion are two different methods of producing water.

Nope. The phrase "it may need electrolysis or some other combustion technique" indicates that you include electrolysis as a "combustion technique", however you punctuate it.

And the fact that you consider electrolysis to be a way "to combine [oxygen] with hydrogen in order to make it water" indicates that you consider electrolysis to be a method of reacting hydrogen with oxygen.

Do you know what the process of reacting something with oxygen is called?

 

[Mojo]

Which has nothing to do with the Van Allen belts, as well as being untrue.

The stuff about the Apollo astronauts getting out of the vehicle in the Van Allen belts only makes sense if Vixen thinks the Moon is within the Van Allen belts.

 

[catsmate]

Sorry, you seemed not to know that Oxygen on the Moon takes a broadly different form than on Earth.

More stupidly.

 

[Foster Zygote]

I hope your daughter never gets called 'Peppermint Patty' on social media by some insecure guy.

As she's not prone to pretending to understand something well enough to say that the actual experts are wrong, to the intended end that people might perceive her as their intellectual superior, I don't think that will be a problem. She's a bright and perceptive girl who is in the habit of asking questions, listening to the answers, and admitting error when appropriate without feeling the slightest embarrassment, which is why she's able to learn as well as she does.

 

[JayUtah]

The stuff about the Apollo astronauts getting out of the vehicle in the Van Allen belts only makes sense if Vixen thinks the Moon is within the Van Allen belts.

...or if she's just spouting whatever knee-jerk nonsense gets us to 250 pages today with the attention focused squarely on her.

 

[catsmate]

Let me help. On Earth, Oxygen is generally in gaseous form. On the Moon it tends to be embedded in rocks.

Rubbish. Try to educate yourself and demonstrate less abject stupidity.

 

[catsmate]

Good luck with breathing on the Moon without your equipment.

Would all this straw burn on the moon?

 

[catsmate]

Earth is apx four times larger than the Moon and has infinitely more water. The only water the Moon gets is possible vapour from striking meteorites.

Another pathetically silly attempt at distracting from you enormous mistake.

 

[threadworm]

Earth is apx four times larger than the Moon and has infinitely more water. The only water the Moon gets is possible vapour from striking meteorites.

◊◊◊◊ all to do with my reply to you, but thanks for playing.

 

[catsmate]

The only water the Moon gets is possible vapour from striking meteorites.

The stupidity, it burns....

 

[catsmate]

The stuff about the Apollo astronauts getting out of the vehicle in the Van Allen belts only makes sense if Vixen thinks the Moon is within the Van Allen belts.

Possibly she does. She demonstrates a lack of basic understanding of, well everything.

 

[W.D.Clinger]

Yes I have noticed when people can't follow a debate, they look for spelling, typo or grammatical errors instead, or land on a word such as 'side' - or throw in some degrading names -because the subject matter is way over their head.

This thread, like so many before it, has become an ongoing demonstration of linguistic ineptitude's practical utility.

When you are unable to express yourself clearly, it becomes easier to explain your recurring factual mistakes and irrelevancies (I've heard it called the weave) as mere misspellings, typos, grammatical errors, jokes, or the way you were taught to speak in some backwater of Jolly Olde England that somehow escaped the notice of all others who lived on that island.

There are, to be sure, some disadvantages as well. Some cruel folk, who are lucky enough not to suffer from that particular variety of logorrhea, may be inclined to attribute the incessant verbal nonsense to pig ignorance, performative stupidity, attention seeking, dishonesty, or jealousy of some popular cartoon character who behaves similarly.

But I am more charitable. I know you're being as honest as you know how, doing the absolute best you can, and just can't help being a member in good standing of the 0.1% of English speakers who simply cannot communicate effectively with the other 99.9%.

You habitually use the wrong words for things. You do so most often when you're trying to pretend that you're smarter than everyone else. Most of this discussion is about technical subjects where accuracy matters. You tell us you choose your words carefully. If you therefore choose the wrong word, we must assume it is not out of carelessness but rather out of ignorance.

You do not enjoy a presumption of correctness. You cannot therefore rely upon the charity of your critics to overlook your "typos." The more parsimonious conclusion is that you continue not to know what you're talking about.

Let me help. On Earth, Oxygen is generally in gaseous form. On the Moon it tends to be embedded in rocks.

Factually false. Free oxygen in Earth's atmosphere comprises about 0.05% of the planet's total oxygen. The rest is tied up in water or oxides, the same as on the Moon.

Let me help. There is more oxygen locked in rocks on Earth than there is in the air.

And in any case, you're wrong. On Earth, far more oxygen atoms are contained in rocks (and water) than in the atmosphere. You're so relentlessly incorrect and ill-informed.

 

[JesseCuster]

Re parachutes, that should of course be drag not buoyancy.

"Of course I meant something other than what I actually wrote".

You're nothing if not predictable Vixen.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Would all this straw burn on the moon?

If it does it might be handy on the side that's always in darkness.

 

[LondonJohn]

"Of course I meant something other than what I actually wrote".

You're nothing if not predictable Vixen.

And predictably pathologically unable to write "I made a mistake"

 

[LondonJohn]

If it does it might be handy on the side that's always in darkness.

The shame would be that we'd never get to see the straw-burning spectacle from Earth...

 

[Foster Zygote]

Sorry, there should have been a comma there indicating or, as in a different method, by combustion. Although it should have been obvious electrolysis and combustion are two different methods of producing water.

Adding a comma would make no such clarification. The key word is "other".

Because its presence is presumed. In addition, it may need electrolysis, or some other combustion technique to combine it with hydrogen in order to make it water, possibly via Moon soil extraction (= mining).

You would have simply written "electrolysis or combustion". Writing "electrolysis, or some other combustion technique" states that that electrolysis is one form of combustion, and that there are others. But this is wrong. Electrolysis doesn't produce water. It separates water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen atoms.

 

[JesseCuster]

Sorry, there should have been a comma there indicating or, as in a different method, by combustion. Although it should have been obvious electrolysis and combustion are two different methods of producing water.

Electrolysis involves splitting water into its constituents - oxygen and hydrogen. NOT the other way around as you have repeatedly said.

And here you go again "Obviously I meant something other than what I actually posted".

Why does someone who is a triple niner intellect, an author, a scientist, someone who has written dissertations, someone with 5 years of physics education, who chooses their words carefully etc. so frequently make so many many basic errors that they have to excuse away with "Well, obviously I meant something else..."

 

[LondonJohn]

Jeez. 5,000 posts of this farce.