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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

Vixen said:
Yes I have noticed when people can't follow a debate, they look for spelling, typo or grammatical errors instead, or land on a word such as 'side' - or throw in some degrading names -because the subject matter is way over their head.
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Degrading names such as "insecure", perhaps?

Consistency, Vixen. Consistency.
 
Foster Zygote said:
Electrolysis is used to separate water molecules into oxygen and hydrogen, not combine oxygen and hydrogen into water. It's right there in the name. How can you pretend that you introduced us to the concept of water ice in deep polar craters, then get the reason for interest in said ice so completely wrong?

Water ice on the moon, if it can be processed in enough quantity efficiently enough, can be used to support life in habitats, provide shielding, and, with enough energy, can be split into hydrogen and oxygen, which can, among other uses, serve as rocket fuel. The presence of oxygen on the moon isn't presumed. If there's water there, then there is oxygen there.
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Sorry, there should have been a comma there indicating or, as in a different method, by combustion. Although it should have been obvious electrolysis and combustion are two different methods of producing water.
 
Vixen said:
Sorry, there should have been a comma there indicating or, as in a different method, by combustion. Although it should have been obvious electrolysis and combustion are two different methods of producing water.
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No, Vixen. Electrolysis is a method for SPLITTING WATER into its components hydrogen and oxygen. Can you get anything right?
 
Vixen said:
Sorry, you seemed not to know that Oxygen on the Moon takes a broadly different form than on Earth.
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Not really.

Earth has gaseous molecular oxygen. The Moon does not. There the difference in form ends.

On Earth, oxygen is combined with other elements. Many of these are common oxides. Most plentifully, oxygen is combined with hydrogen to form water.

On the Moon, oxygen is combined with other elements. Many of these are the common oxides, found in Moon rocks and dust. Where the chemical formulas are the same, these oxides are no different than their Earth counterparts. Far less plentifully, oxygen on the Moon may have combined with hydrogen to form water. Moon ice is no different than Earth ice.

Vixen said:
You just can't grasp that maybe I knew better than you all along, and why I put 'oxygen' in quotation marks. So yes, I am embarrassed for you.
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Don't be.

In order to cover up your error you're still perpetuating the notion that oxygen is somehow magically different on the Moon than it is on Earth.

Vixen said:
Yes I have noticed when people can't follow a debate, they look for spelling, typo or grammatical errors instead, or land on a word...
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You habitually use the wrong words for things. You do so most often when you're trying to pretend that you're smarter than everyone else. Most of this discussion is about technical subjects where accuracy matters. You tell us you choose your words carefully. If you therefore choose the wrong word, we must assume it is not out of carelessness but rather out of ignorance.

You do not enjoy a presumption of correctness. You cannot therefore rely upon the charity of your critics to overlook your "typos." The more parsimonious conclusion is that you continue not to know what you're talking about.
 
JayUtah said:
Not really.

Earth has gaseous molecular oxygen. The Moon does not. There the difference in form ends.

On Earth, oxygen is combined with other elements. Many of these are common oxides. Most plentifully, oxygen is combined with hydrogen to form water.

On the Moon, oxygen is combined with other elements. Many of these are the common oxides, found in Moon rocks and dust. Where the chemical formulas are the same, these oxides are no different than their Earth counterparts. Far less plentifully, oxygen on the Moon may have combined with hydrogen to form water. Moon ice is no different than Earth ice.


Don't be.

In order to cover up your error you're still perpetuating the notion that oxygen is somehow magically different on the Moon than it is on Earth.


You habitually use the wrong words for things. You do so most often when you're trying to pretend that you're smarter than everyone else. Most of this discussion is about technical subjects where accuracy matters. You tell us you choose your words carefully. If you therefore choose the wrong word, we must assume it is not out of carelessness but rather out of ignorance.

You do not enjoy a presumption of correctness. You cannot therefore rely upon the charity of your critics to overlook your "typos." The more parsimonious conclusion is that you continue not to know what you're talking about.
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Let me help. On Earth, Oxygen is generally in gaseous form. On the Moon it tends to be embedded in rocks.
 
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