Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

[turingtest]

I marvel that people claim to know what I really meant. That is really kind of you to let me know.

I don't claim that all. I do, however, claim an ability to know what you said. And that was simple enough- all I had to do was to read what you wrote.

 

[LondonJohn]

You're the one constantly trying to tell us that the words you use mean different things when you use them.

"Mean sd" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[Reformed Offlian]

The last-ditch effort was a sample return mission. Had it succeeded, it would have returned a lunar sample to Earth before Apollo 11 returned with their own samples.

Ah, fair enough.

 

[Vixen]

Why is the word "oxygen" in inverted commas? (Note my correct use of inverted commas here)

Because its presence is presumed. In addition, it may need electrolysis or some other combustion technique to combine it with hydrogen in order to make it water, possibly via Moon soil extraction (= mining).

 

[JayUtah]

People don't want to stand around long for the key shots...

The trick is to get them to agree to sit for the photos before the ceremony. My mentor was adept at getting people to abandon the custom that the bride and groom should not see each other until the Moment.

 

[JayUtah]

it may need electrolysis or some other combustion technique...

Electrolysis is not a "combustion technique."

 

[LondonJohn]

Because its presence is presumed. In addition, it may need electrolysis or some other combustion technique to combine it with hydrogen in order to make it water, possibly via Moon soil extraction (= mining).

***sigh*** the challenge is not to make water* - it's precisely the opposite. And it still doesn't explain the spurious inverted commas.


* Other than the relatively small quantities that might be required as additional drinking water (but the current assumption is that what's on the moon is already frozen water in any case).

 

[threadworm]

I think the key element is some kind of trapped 'oxygen' which as you know is one of the elements of water, the Moon otherwise being completely dehydrated. So it's one of the futuristic ideas of Musk and his 'refuelling' research for when they try Mars.

Not Musk's idea.

 

[JayUtah]

***sigh*** the challenge is not to make water* - it's precisely the opposite.

Yet another dog's breakfast. It's hilarious watching @Vixen conflate and confuse practically every concept in the refueling scenario while at the same time insisting she's the one teaching us all about it.

Almost as if she's not really this confused and is only playing a character...

 

[LondonJohn]

Yet another dog's breakfast. It's hilarious watching @Vixen conflate and confuse practically every concept in the refueling scenario while at the same time insisting she's the one teaching us all about it.

Almost as if she's not really this confused and is only playing a character...

It's an excellent impersonation of Peppermint Patty......

 

[Vixen]

I don't claim that all. I do, however, claim an ability to know what you said. And that was simple enough- all I had to do was to read it.

Right, and so your logic and knowledge immediately made you think, 'Ah, the Dark Side of the Moon'!

I had no way of knowing in advance that a lot of people had never heard of this mining plan so tried to correct it with 'Ah but that's a Pink Floyd LP. What is called the Dark Side of the Moon is not what astronomers call the X,Y and Z, etc'.

Maybe you personally were aware, but the usual suspects caught themselves out and tried to make out they had a problem with one of my words. As if I had Pink Floyd in mind at all.

 

[Vixen]

***sigh*** the challenge is not to make water* - it's precisely the opposite. And it still doesn't explain the spurious inverted commas.


* Other than the relatively small quantities that might be required as additional drinking water (but the current assumption is that what's on the moon is already frozen water in any case).

It is. It is to use this water as rocket propellent.

 

[LondonJohn]

Right, and so your logic and knowledge immediately made you think, 'Ah, the Dark Side of the Moon'!

I had no way of knowing in advance that a lot of people had never heard of this mining plan so tried to correct it with 'Ah but that's a Pink Floyd LP. What is called the Dark Side of the Moon is not what astronomers call the X,Y and Z, etc'.

Maybe you personally were aware, but the usual suspects caught themselves out and tried to make out they had a problem with one of my words. As if I had Pink Floyd in mind at all.

What??

 

[Vixen]

Not Musk's idea.

It's one of his projects lined up for SpaceX.

 

[JayUtah]

It's an excellent impersonation of Peppermint Patty......

Which of course brings us back to why we're talking about refueling at all, which was to distract from the notion that the Artemis II mission flew essentially the same trajectory through the Van Allen belts and @Vixen doesn't want to tell us whether she thinks that mission was fake too.

 

[LondonJohn]

It is. It is to use this water as rocket propellent.

Water is to be used as rocket propellant?

 

[Vixen]

It's an excellent impersonation of Peppermint Patty......

All you seem to have in your debating tool box are insults.

 

[GlennB]

Because its presence is presumed. In addition, it may need electrolysis or some other combustion technique to combine it with hydrogen in order to make it water, possibly via Moon soil extraction (= mining).

This level of (apparent) ignorance can only be deliberate.

 

[JayUtah]

It's one of his projects lined up for SpaceX.

But he didn't come up with the idea. It's been a common theme in space exploration for decades.

 

[Vixen]

Water is to be used as rocket propellant?

This Startup Thinks It Can Make Rocket Fuel From Water. Stop Laughing

General Galactic, cofounded by a former SpaceX engineer, plans to test its water-based propellant this fall. If successful, it could help usher in a new era of space travel. That's a big “if.”

www.wired.com