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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

I think he was indicating the presence of a source of light other than the sun; eg., a spotlight. That's how the row came about.
The claim is that because the shadows do not appear parallel as they "should" be, one can infer that one shadow was caused by one light in one position, and the other shadow is caused by another light in a different position. No actual evidence of another light is presented. It's never more than an inference from a trivially false premise.
 
ETA I also pointed out heat and temperature were irrelevant.
No. You keep wrongly using the temperature of the lunar surface as a proxy for optical brightness.

The CONTEXT of being on the Moon as of that lunar early daybreak was to do with how the human body could not survive any other time.
You are wrong on that point too, but it is also quite irrelevant to the problem of illumination for photography. One can make it a full time job to disabuse you of all your ignorant notions.
 
And by the same token, we can't tell it's the Moon. Imagine you want to fake a trip to say, Australia for whatever reason (or anywhere). So you would want to:

  1. Establish you were there, perhaps by getting someone to send a card signed by you from there. (= 'We brought Moon rock home'.)
  2. Leave something belonging to you there; perhaps your flip-flops in a cupboard, as per photo [which could be from anywhere]. (=The US flag in the photo; and claim you left a load of junk there plus Hasselblads and even some cool footprints [despite no moisture on the Moon to make them].)
  3. The proof you were there is that people now eat Marmite, which you took there [which they were already doing]. (= The feel-good factor of claiming you personally left some reflectors on the lunar surface which was a great advance to mankind in pinging the Moon).
See how it works? We are none the wiser as to whether you were there or not but by heck you can convince us that you were.
Except for the fact that there is scientifically verified evidence of them having been on the moon, including, but not limited to, the behavior of the dust thrown up by the LRVs which matches perfectly with a vacuum environment with 1/6g. They weren't in a studio. The background mountains on the later flights change their perspective at every geology station, in direct contradiction of the claims of idiot conspiracy theorists that they're all identical backdrops. Then there are the thousands of published research papers from geologists all over the world confirming the unique properties of the lunar samples.

ETA: And the notion that they shot the landings in some desert is equally ludicrous. It's been over five decades since Apollo. The notion that, in all that time, no one would be able to match geological features on earth with those from the J-Missions especially is just downright stupid. Maybe they shot on location from beyond the flat earth believers' "ice wall", so that's why nobody can find it?

And they left a ◊◊◊◊-ton of stuff on the moon, which has been photographed from lunar orbit by multiple nations.
 
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We cite 15º as the nominal sun elevation for Apollo 11 because that's whose photography we're interested in vetting for camera settings.

The J-type missions spent three solar days on the Moon, with the final maximum sun elevation being 49º. While they landed with the sun low in the sky for the same visual flight reasons as the other missions, they stayed longer and the sun rose higher. The highest increase in solar heating of the surface occurs not near noon, but near mid-morning when the J-type missions were operating on the surface. This is when the insolation angle (which is almost entirely irrelevant to photography) creates the biggest increase in solar influx.

The notion that the landings occurred in the morning because the conditions otherwise would have been unsurvivable is false. Apollo space suits are very well insulated and were operated in full sun on several missions prior to any landing attempt.
 
And by the same token, we can't tell it's the Moon. Imagine you want to fake a trip to say, Australia for whatever reason (or anywhere). So you would want to:

  1. Establish you were there, perhaps by getting someone to send a card signed by you from there. (= 'We brought Moon rock home'.)
  2. Leave something belonging to you there; perhaps your flip-flops in a cupboard, as per photo [which could be from anywhere]. (=The US flag in the photo; and claim you left a load of junk there plus Hasselblads and even some cool footprints [despite no moisture on the Moon to make them].)
  3. The proof you were there is that people now eat Marmite, which you took there [which they were already doing]. (= The feel-good factor of claiming you personally left some reflectors on the lunar surface which was a great advance to mankind in pinging the Moon).
See how it works? We are none the wiser as to whether you were there or not but by heck you can convince us that you were.
There are details in lunar surface photographs that were not known at the time but have been confirmed since by probes from many countries.

It's possible to make 3D models using data from many countries that confirm the views photographed by astronauts.

Evidence of human activity has been confirmed by many different probes.

If you have any evidence that these photographs could have been done on Earth instead, feel free to provide it.
 
Err! I think you'll find I was first to point out that Earth was protected by an atmosphere and the Moon was not.
Oh, FFS! You really think you were pointing that out to anyone like some esoteric enlightenment, and that it had anything to do with your later claim that there's no difference in natural lighting conditions between earth and moon?

Stating a triviality like "the moon has no atmosphere" while spouting nonsense about ionizing radiation doesn't make you seem like the expert you pretend to be, especially when you make such fundamental errors as thinking the VARB has anything to do with X-rays, or that passing through it will make you radioactive.
 
OK, so the frogmen sprayed the capsule with 'chemicals' to 'kill the Moon germs'. Then they sloshed the astronauts inside with same. They got them to change clothes in case of 'Moon germs'. Are you serious?! Not a single mention of the extremely dangerous possibility of radiation..?
You haven't a clue, do you?
Well, that's one debating point.
Not to anyone with actual knowledge.
 
I'm afraid your text is too difficult for me to make out.
I'm not surprised, since you evidently don't know how STEM works. @Foster Zygote's statement is perfectly clear and correct to appropriately informed people.

There is no special physics for Apollo that doesn't apply anywhere else such that it can be credibly lied about without consequences. The physics and engineering that apply to Apollo is the same physics and engineering we use to make microwave ovens, lenses for cameras, and bridges that carry heavy loads of passengers over the heads of other people. If you lied about that physics so that by solving fake-physics problems you would make Apollo seem real, all the other solutions in those problem areas would fail. Further, practitioners in other places such as Iran or China, who wouldn't be especially keen to keep America's secrets, would feel obliged to complain. And since they don't want their bridges to fall down and kill people, they would be obliged to learn the real physics, the kind that would say bad things about whether Apollo was real about.

The notion that, say, determinate statics can be rewritten to explain off-balance astronauts means it won't work for the thousands of other problems in that field being solved by thousands of engineers right now. If we're teaching mechanical statics wrong now in order to hide the "truth" about Apollo, then everything that depends on it being right will fall apart, with noticeable and disastrous results. Our present formulation of statics has been around since Newton's time. He got it (mostly) right, and the times when he didn't—which ironically include the deflection of a cantilevered beam under load—are very quickly noticed and corrected. We need these things to be right, therefore they can't be credibly lied about.

Similarly you can't rewrite radiometry to solve the "stars in photos" problem without making radiometry wrong for all the problems we need radiometry to be right for. This includes such things as whether a police helicopter searchlight will blind people. It's all the same physics. There's no branch of physics that applies exclusively to Apollo and can be credibly lied about to hide the notion that it doesn't work.

I thought about how to put this into terms you can understand, but since you seem to be having trouble with basic numbers I'm not sure this will work.

Imagine that you're an accountant at a firm and you need to convince people you aren't cooking the books. You just do whatever it takes to make the bottom line match the bank balance, and then you teach all these new accounting "rules" to your associate accountants. If one of those "rules" is, "Don't carry when you add digits that sum to more than 10," it might make your books balance—the fake ones hiding all the embezzlement—but it won't work for people who aren't faking it. The basic rules of arithmetic are the same for everyone and empirically verifiable. There are certain things you just can't credibly lie about.

So in your cutesy hypothetical about a fictional country teaching its physics and engineering students wrong so that they learn "rules" that make their fake space missions seem plausible, you just let pass in the story the idea that this wouldn't have any catastrophic consequences. Your story relies upon the absurd premise that one can credibly lie about things that will, in fact, be catastrophic. We have a saying around the office, "If you get this wrong, Mother Nature will reach out and slap you over it." There's usually a qualification on "slap" that would be inappropriate to include here.

You might as well say, "NASA faked Apollo and then a wizard appeared and made it all seem real."
 
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