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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

Jack by the hedge said:
It is what? Pitch black? No.

Imagine you are the astronaut, standing in the shadow of the lander. Can you see the sunlit moonscape around you, stretching off into the distance? Yes, of course. Why can you see it? Because the sunlight striking that landscape is scattering and some of it is coming back towards you, illuminating you. In your not-actually-pitch-black shadow.

What part eludes you?
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I wasn't referring to the slim shadow of the Moon Lander, obvs. The lunar sun had only just barely risen so plenty of darkness in the opposite landscape, especially behind one of the enormous rocks Pat Norris referred to. Obviously, this is theoretical assuming your camera film hasn't already been damaged by the unrelenting radiation.
 
Vixen said:
I wasn't referring to the slim shadow of the Moon Lander, obvs. The lunar sun had only just barely risen so plenty of darkness in the opposite landscape, especially behind one of the enormous rocks Pat Norris referred to. Obviously, this is theoretical assuming your camera film hasn't already been damaged by the unrelenting radiation.
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Is it reading, understanding or remembering you have difficulty with?
 
Reformed Offlian said:
I notice that you didn't make an actual point, let alone an argument. What was I supposed to notice?
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OK, so the frogmen sprayed the capsule with 'chemicals' to 'kill the Moon germs'. Then they sloshed the astronauts inside with same. They got them to change clothes in case of 'Moon germs'. Are you serious?! Not a single mention of the extremely dangerous possibility of radiation..?

An older sibling and a friend as part of their (British) degrees, spent a year at Grenoble Uni in which they spent time with radioactive ☢️ materials (Chemistry course). After EVERY session they had to undergo intensive decontamination and scrub downs. I can't remember the exact details now. This would have been a similar era - early to mid-70's - so you can't argue the dangers of radiation weren't known then. The thing is, the friend subsequently died young of bone cancer, still in 30's or 40's with small children, so it was incredibly sad. A child of my sibling was born with a birth defect, possibly congenital, and thankfully, easily rectified by surgery. Now, of course, we don't know it was because of the time spent at Grenoble but for NASA to believe 'germs' are the main problem makes me realise it's not serious. Spraying with chemicals indeed.

Well, that's one debating point.
 
Vixen said:
OK, so the frogmen sprayed the capsule with 'chemicals' to 'kill the Moon germs'. Then they sloshed the astronauts inside with same. They got them to change clothes in case of 'Moon germs'. Are you serious?! Not a single mention of the extremely dangerous possibility of radiation..?

An older sibling and a friend as part of their (British) degrees, spent a year at Grenoble Uni in which they spent time with radioactive ☢️ materials (Chemistry course). After EVERY session they had to undergo intensive decontamination and scrub downs. I can't remember the exact details now. This would have been a similar era - early to mid-70's - so you can't argue the dangers of radiation weren't known then. The thing is, the friend subsequently died young of bone cancer, still in 30's or 40's with small children, so it was incredibly sad. A child of my sibling was born with a birth defect, possibly congenital, and thankfully, easily rectified by surgery. Now, of course, we don't know it was because of the time spent at Grenoble but for NASA to believe 'germs' are the main problem makes me realise it's not serious. Spraying with chemicals indeed.

Well, that's one debating point.
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Ah, something else you don't understand. Brave of you to parade your ignorance on so many topics.
 
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Vixen said:
I wasn't referring to the slim shadow of the Moon Lander, obvs. The lunar sun had only just barely risen so plenty of darkness in the opposite landscape, especially behind one of the enormous rocks Pat Norris referred to. Obviously, this is theoretical assuming your camera film hasn't already been damaged by the unrelenting radiation.
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Yawn.
 
Vixen said:
OK, so the frogmen sprayed the capsule with 'chemicals' to 'kill the Moon germs'. Then they sloshed the astronauts inside with same. They got them to change clothes in case of 'Moon germs'. Are you serious?! Not a single mention of the extremely dangerous possibility of radiation..?
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Exposing something to radiation doesn't make it radioactive.

Vixen said:
An older sibling and a friend as part of their (British) degrees, spent a year at Grenoble Uni in which they spent time with radioactive ☢️ materials (Chemistry course). After EVERY session they had to undergo intensive decontamination and scrub downs.
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Because they might have tracked out traces of those materials, not because they themselves somehow became radioactive.

Vixen said:
Well, that's one debating point.
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No. You're just clueless.
 
JayUtah said:
Exposing something to radiation doesn't make it radioactive.


Because they might have tracked out traces of those materials, not because they themselves somehow became radioactive.


No. You're just clueless.
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Also, the astronauts wore dosimeters, right? Which they periodically read off to mission control? Houston would already know how "radioactive" the astronauts were well before re-entry.
 
Vixen said:
The NASA guys watching their banks of...tv monitors ... are no wiser than the rest of us.
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"Because I say so."

Vixen said:
The guys who heard the radio exchanges of Apollo 11 at Jodril Bank, Manchester, only heard them as they were coming into splashdown. They might just have been orbiting earth for all they know.
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False, they tapped into the astronauts' transmissions while they were on the Moon. The operators of radio telescopes know which way their antenna is pointed and therefore where the signals are coming from.
 
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Reformed Offlian said:
Also, the astronauts wore dosimeters, right? Which they periodically read off to mission control? Houston would already know how "radioactive" the astronauts were well before re-entry.
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Yes, the astronauts wore dosimeters. A dosimeter doesn't tell you if you are radioactive. It tells you what dose of radiation you may have previously absorbed.

Imagining that the astronauts and spaceship became radioactive by passing through the Van Allen belts or being exposed to GCR is the depth of ignorance.
 
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