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Assassination of United Healthcare CEO


people like sean hannity and others have been caught coordinating with the trump campaign. various lawsuits have uncovered communications revealing similar relationships to other prominent fox news tv hosts over the years as well. what's the value on that you think?
 
The entire anti-Trump argument here is nothing but whataboutism. And if you think that pundits and reporters aren't still shilling for Democrats, you aren't paying any attention.

Again, you're adorable. I love it when you pretend the Dems have anything close to channels like Newsmax, OANN, Fox, etc.

Like, I know it's disingenuous but you try so, so hard to make it look serious and it's tough to watch it fail time, and time again.

Keep up the good work Zigg. Carrying that Trump water has to get heavy, and might get heavier when you realizes he doesn't give a ◊◊◊◊ about you or anyone you know.
 
cnn is looking to be sold to trump ally david ellison, and you can take a look at other recent media purchases like musk buying twitter, bezos buying wapo, and larry ellison buying cbs, etc etc etc so that all falls short to me.

of course, there's no denying the networks like fox, oann, newsmax, and the like are up to. there's off base comparisons like ziggarat made above that aren't very convincing. but even those media outlets have either been sold or will be soon, so it seems irrelevant to me to even talk about them as if they were coordinating to even close to the same extent that fox news was with trump. you can also just look into the number of people that served directly for fox and also directly for his admin for a clue for who's paying attention and whos not.
 
It's hilarious that you think they don't.

Name 1. Name 1 lefty TV station that lied on behalf of an administration, knowingly mind you, to such an extent they had to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.

Go ahead, I'll wait. Mind you, not just 1 right-wing media outlet had to pay. If I remember right it was like 3. So go ahead and point out the leftie stations that blatantly lie to such an extent like they do for the GOP. You can't, because it doesn't ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ happen.
 
there really isn't a leftist billionaire tech media mogul buying up companies and cozying up to a corrupt presidency comparision to make to someone like musk, or ellison, or zuckerberg, or thiel, or bezos. what, is bill gates some kind of leftist? george soros? lol there's just not
 
Name 1. Name 1 lefty TV station that lied on behalf of an administration, knowingly mind you, to such an extent they had to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.
What an odd standard you're trying to construct. It has little to do with the actual topic of this thread, which wasn't about honesty or lawsuits or damages. You haven't used this standard because it's actually a measure of what we're concerned about, you use it because you think it's one sided. Do you actually think that lying, or even just bias, always comes with legal liability? It doesn't.
 
there really isn't a leftist billionaire tech media mogul buying up companies and cozying up to a corrupt presidency comparision to make to someone like musk, or ellison, or zuckerberg, or thiel, or bezos.
The amnesia here is remarkable. Have you forgotten that Zuckerberg sucked up to the Democrats by censoring the Hunter Biden laptop? That's even aside from his contributions, which lean democrat. Have you forgotten that basically ALL the tech media platforms censored pretty much anything that didn't follow the official party line about Covid, even stuff that we know now was true? Do you think Bezos wasn't sucking up to Biden when Biden was in office? Did you forget Twitter's speech policies like banning people for misgendering anyone?

The tech industry does not in general support Trump or Republicans. In general, it supports democrats by a wide margin.


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what, is bill gates some kind of leftist?
Yes. Didn't you know that?
 
i’d be curious to hear more about how zuckerberg censored hunter biden’s laptop

anyway this guys talking about culture war stuff that happened a decade ago.
 
What an odd standard you're trying to construct.

It's not odd at all. I'm saying there's no left wing media equivalent to the right-wing mediasphere. We were talking about politicians and TV channels coordinating with each other. I pointed out that multiple right-wing media organizations coordinated to spread a false ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ narrative that ended up costing them, collectively, over a billion dollars and multiple public apologies.

You said the left had equivalent coordination to which I called ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. Now, yes, we're all familiar with your song and dance here. You say something, get called out, then you do this pretentious little "you're stupid, I'm smart, that's not what I meant" tap dance, and it's adorable, as I already said. Sadly, terribly transparent.
It has little to do with the actual topic of this thread, which wasn't about honesty or lawsuits or damages.

The topic of the thread is a CEO getting shot. None of what you're talking about has ◊◊◊◊ all to do with the thread, nice attempt at a reset though. You're ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ terrible at this though.
You haven't used this standard because it's actually a measure of what we're concerned about, you use it because you think it's one sided.

I think the right-wing mediasphere is one-sided. I think every single other news station\outlet has the ability to be critical of Democrats, repeatedly and without issue. That doesn't exist on right-wing media channels. They would never be critical of Trump and his allies, repeatedly, openly and honestly. It just doesn't happen and we have mountains of evidence to support that statement.
Do you actually think that lying, or even just bias, always comes with legal liability?

No, I've never claimed anything even remotely similar.
It doesn't.

Thanks Captain Obvious.
 
i’ll give a listen to anyone that wants to make the case famous leftist jeff bezos bought wapo to push a leftist agenda.
 
i’d be curious to hear more about how zuckerberg censored hunter biden’s laptop
When the New York Post ran a story about the Hunter Biden laptop, both Facebook and Twitter initially took steps to limit or even prevent users from sharing the story through the platform. The cited justification for this was a policy against spreading hacked information. But the information wasn't hacked, and the NYP story did not actually violate their policies. So why did they do it?

Because in the summer of 2020, FBI agents primed them to believe that such material could come from a Russian hacking operation. They ran training scenarios with platforms about such a hypothetical, while at the same time the FBI already had the laptop and knew it was authentic. And these media platforms went along with it because they wanted to stay in the Democrat's good graces.

 
The laptop was his. The contents were real. It wasn't a Russian disinfo operation.

You, uh, got something to back that up, champ? According to the intertubes:
The contents of the laptop, widely reported as belonging to Hunter Biden and left at a Delaware computer repair shop in 2019, have been subject to intense scrutiny, with forensic analyses later confirming portions of the data as authentic.
 
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It's not odd at all. I'm saying there's no left wing media equivalent to the right-wing mediasphere.
Except your metric doesn't really measure that in any important way. The actual useful measures would be things like reach and bias.
I think the right-wing mediasphere is one-sided.
No ◊◊◊◊, Sherlock. If it wasn't, then it wouldn't be a right-wing mediasphere. It's one-sided by definition.

Do you think there isn't a left-wing mediasphere? Do you think it's not one-sided? Because that would be a really, really stupid thing to believe.

I don't think you're actually that stupid, though you might claim to be.
I think every single other news station\outlet has the ability to be critical of Democrats, repeatedly and without issue.
Bull ◊◊◊◊. How many left wing mainstream sources questioned Biden's mental competence? None of them. They all covered it up or ignored it, until they couldn't anymore. And then they blamed everyone else.
 

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