General UK politics VIII - The Last Tory

[zooterkin]

I think the disguise is, in fact, a Hitler moustache.

Isn't that what was said?

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Darren Grimes
@darrengrimes
We are being treated like mugs.

We cannot deport an illegal foreign criminal because of the ECHR and the Egyptian death penalty. Quite frankly, I couldn’t care less if these twisted animals suffer in Egypt—that is not the victims' or Britain’s problem.

We are forced to host and fund people who despise us because a foreign court says their "rights" matter more than our safety. The ECHR is a shield for the depraved and a shackle for the British public. It’s time to leave.

That's a surprise, because we can deport foreigners convicted of a crime no problem, usually after time served. And Ireland is subject to the same ECHR rules as the UK is.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I've worked in two places that had staff club bars on-site. One place was a large 24-hour operation so it was a bit more reasonable to have somewhere for an after work drink but the other was more office hours and only survived on lunchtime drinkers. It was on its last legs when I arrived in the early '90s as the generation who thought a couple of pints at lunchtime was normal were reaching retirement age.

 

[zooterkin]

That's a surprise, because we can deport foreigners convicted of a crime no problem, usually after time served. And Ireland is subject to the same ECHR rules as the UK is.

Can you deport someone to a country where they will likely face the death penalty?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Isn't that what was said?

That was the joke, yes.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Restore Britain
@RestoreBritain_
Restore Britain would repeal the Gender Recognition Act.

There are men, and there are women.

That is all.

There's also complete twats Rupe.

 

[sinnikal]

When I worked at Heathrow Airport cargo 'village' in the 70's there was a handy flatroofed pub right in the middle. a 3 pint lunch was not unusual. After lunch, many of those people went off to drive fork lift trucks, pallet trucks ... even ramp vehicles such as aircraft tugs. Not an eyebrow was raised.
Farage et.al. really are living in the past.
The pub in a working area of Heathrow was the least of the problems at the airport in the 70's, it was like the Wild West.

 

[wobs]

Lightweight! Back in the '80s, it was still entirely normal to go to the pub at lunchtime for a couple of pints and the return to the office to write some extremely dodgy code. Usually on a Friday, but some folks managed it on other days too. And at least two of the places I worked at had bars on site. As in many things, Farage, and the HoC, are stuck in the past.

We used to go to the pub on a Friday lunch time, and return to operate dangerous machinery, back in the late 80s early 90s.

A mate worked a large site that had its own bar/social club. He work in accounts and at the bar.

 

[welshdean]

Well. Allowing medics to prescribe heroin and crack cocaine to medics is entirely consistent with saying that too many MPs are drunks and drink on the job, which is incredibly easy in Parliament.

And from my one experience of having a half of bitter with a Friday lunch at a local pub during my master's work and then really struggling in the lab for the rest of the afternoon, it l probably is true that too many MPs are drinking at work.

I disagree with how far they are proposing towards legalisation of drugs (for example making GHB available in specialist pharmacies for adults to use recreationally, which I can imagine would make spiking drinks easier) but putting Heroin and crack cocaine available on prescription is a plausible approach to reducing the harms from the drugs to both the addicts and the wider society.

Portugal seem to be making a good fist of it.

Since it decriminalised all drugs in 2001, Portugal has seen dramatic drops in overdoses, HIV infection and drug-related crime.
Link

(Yes, the article is older than I'd like, but as far as I know, the data is still valid.)

ETA: Format quote

 

[Andy_Ross]

Lightweight! Back in the '80s, it was still entirely normal to go to the pub at lunchtime for a couple of pints and the return to the office to write some extremely dodgy code. Usually on a Friday, but some folks managed it on other days too. And at least two of the places I worked at had bars on site. As in many things, Farage, and the HoC, are stuck in the past.

In the 90s I was working for an Apple Service Provider and dealership, mainly involved with publishing and digital media.
Some of the offices we visited were full of people that had obviously over indulged at lunchtime.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Lee Anderson MP
@LeeAndersonMP_
Just throwing this one out there as I was asked this question earlier today.

A couple both working with a combined income of £50,000 would pay £11,500 a year in income tax and national insurance,

Another couple receiving £50,000 in benefits including Universal Credit, Personal Independent Payment, Housing Benefit, Income Support and Child Benefit would pay no income tax or national insurance, keeping the full £50,000.

Should the non-working couple on £50,000 a year pay the same amount of income tax and national insurance as the working couple?

 

[Andy_Ross]

BBC Breaking News
MPs to be given vote on whether UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer should face a parliamentary investigation over the Lord Mandelson vetting row, BBC told

Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle said he was allowing a debate on the matter on Tuesday and it would then be up to MPs to decide if the Privileges Committee should hold an inquiry.

Keir Starmer faces vote on inquiry over Mandelson vetting claims

No 10 brands the move "a desperate political stunt by the Conservative Party", which had asked for the vote.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[jimbob]

Lee Anderson MP
@LeeAndersonMP_
Just throwing this one out there as I was asked this question earlier today.

A couple both working with a combined income of £50,000 would pay £11,500 a year in income tax and national insurance,

Another couple receiving £50,000 in benefits including Universal Credit, Personal Independent Payment, Housing Benefit, Income Support and Child Benefit would pay no income tax or national insurance, keeping the full £50,000.

Should the non-working couple on £50,000 a year pay the same amount of income tax and national insurance as the working couple?

Well I guess that if you are in a couple receiving £50k in benefits, including PIP, there are probably quite severe disabilities involved.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Lee Anderson MP
@LeeAndersonMP_
Just throwing this one out there as I was asked this question earlier today.

A couple both working with a combined income of £50,000 would pay £11,500 a year in income tax and national insurance,

Another couple receiving £50,000 in benefits including Universal Credit, Personal Independent Payment, Housing Benefit, Income Support and Child Benefit would pay no income tax or national insurance, keeping the full £50,000.

Should the non-working couple on £50,000 a year pay the same amount of income tax and national insurance as the working couple?

This question is fundamentally the same as asking if someone receiving a course of cancer treatment costing the NHS £100,000 deserves to be given £100,000 when you're not.

 

[jimbob]

This question is fundamentally the same as asking if someone receiving a course of cancer treatment costing the NHS £100,000 deserves to be given £100,000 when you're not.

Nicely put

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Isn't that what was said?

I would have thought a tooth brush moustache to be somewhat thinner.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Can you deport someone to a country where they will likely face the death penalty?

Depends on what for.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I would have thought a tooth brush moustache to be somewhat thinner.

I would have called a thin one a pencil moustache. Anyway, Adolf was who I was alluding to.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
JUST IN: UK PM Keir Starmer exposed for having a STUNNING low 18% APPROVAL

He’s useless — he’s COOKED!

“Keir Starmer is the least popular now than the least popular American president EVER! 18%.”

That’s what happens when you’re WEAK

video in link

 

[Andy_Ross]

Chris Murray MP
@ChrisMurrayMP
The Greens’ world: you can’t have a pint after work but heroin is legal