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But the King is considered synonymous with the state because of the constitution. When you swear allegiance to the King, you are swearing allegiance to the United Kingdom.


The current house name is Windsor.


This is totally false. The last monarch not to be born in the UK was George II. Every monarch since then was born and raised in Britain.


The British monarch has no real power. The Emperor Hirohito did have, although, for various reasons he was very reluctant to exercise it and only did so right at the end of the War to stop Japan from being turned into a slag heap.
That's not in the wording. The Swedish Armed Forces vow of allegiance includes the fealty to the Monarch AND to the country specifically.

In any case a poster said he didn't swear allegiance to the Queen and nor would he die for his country, unlike those 1942 Japanese civilians.

"Breathe there a man with soul so dead...". Walter Scott
 
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That's not in the wording. The Swedish Armed Forces vow of allegiance includes the fealty to the Monarch AND to the country specifically.

In any case a poster said he didn't swear allegiance to the Queen and nor would he die for his country, unlike those 1942 Japanese civilians.

"Breathe there a man with soul so dead...". Walter Scott
That would be me.
I certainly didn't join up to die, and as it turns out despite going through the biggest naval war since WW2, I didn't and wasn't expected to.
 
That's not in the wording. The Swedish Armed Forces vow of allegiance includes the fealty to the Monarch AND to the country specifically.

In any case a poster said he didn't swear allegiance to the Queen and nor would he die for his country, unlike those 1942 Japanese civilians.

"Breathe there a man with soul so dead...". Walter Scott
I didn’t say it was the wording.
 
They may have a few traditions that stretch back to their origins in Germany but that doesn’t make them German any more than me attending church at Easter with my parents makes me Christian.
And even if it was the case those "German" conventions and customs have now become British conventions and customs (for whatever reasons). There is nothing the British like more than a newly created ancient tradition!
 
And even if it was the case those "German" conventions and customs have now become British conventions and customs (for whatever reasons). There is nothing the British like more than a newly created ancient tradition!
When I made the post to which you were replying I was on my phone and had to be brief. Had I been on my PC I would have mentioned that very German tradition that the Royal Family has of cutting down a small fir tree, bringing it indoors and decorating it which clearly makes them German, like everybody else who does it.
 
How far back do the Royals have to look to find Germans, and after how many generations would it usually be reasonable to consider someone from an immigrant family British?

I think Vixen said the late Duke of Edinburgh was Danish/Greek and Danes are Germanic, but ... I'm not quite sure how to put this. Danes are Danes. If that makes the King a Dane, he's a Dane. Not a German.
 
How far back do the Royals have to look to find Germans, and after how many generations would it usually be reasonable to consider someone from an immigrant family British?

I think Vixen said the late Duke of Edinburgh was Danish/Greek and Danes are Germanic, but ... I'm not quite sure how to put this. Danes are Danes. If that makes the King a Dane, he's a Dane. Not a German.
According to our brownshirts, you can never bevome a Swede, unless you already are one. I don't know how that works, since it must mean that there are no Swedes. It's very complicated. I expect it's the same in the UK. But then said shirts tend to approve of the monarchy, so maybe royals become Swedish/English much faster?

But trees at christmas? I have never heard anything so outlandish!
 
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When I made the post to which you were replying I was on my phone and had to be brief. Had I been on my PC I would have mentioned that very German tradition that the Royal Family has of cutting down a small fir tree, bringing it indoors and decorating it which clearly makes them German, like everybody else who does it.
Except they light it with real candles and their main Christmas celebration is Christmas Eve, unlike Brits who do the present-opening orgy on Christmas Day.

The point being made was that the pesky bamboo- spear throwing Japanese civilians were prepared to die for their country, hence, the reasoning went, it was reasonable to drop atomic bombs on them. I pointed out that it is morally superior to die for your country than swear allegiance to a Mr. C. Windsor (aka triple hyphenated German name, which they never changed until it became embarrassing) and his sprogs and future sprogs. So much for Brit superiority over the Japanese.
 
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How far back do the Royals have to look to find Germans, and after how many generations would it usually be reasonable to consider someone from an immigrant family British?

I think Vixen said the late Duke of Edinburgh was Danish/Greek and Danes are Germanic, but ... I'm not quite sure how to put this. Danes are Danes. If that makes the King a Dane, he's a Dane. Not a German.
Philip was way below Her Maj in terms of status.
 
According to our brownshirts, you can never bevome a Swede, unless you already are one. I don't know how that works, since it must mean that there are no Swedes. It's very complicated. I expect it's the same in the UK. But then said shirts tend to approve of the monarchy, so maybe royals become Swedish/English much faster?

But trees at christmas? I have never heard anything so outlandish!
I was reading the old tome t'other day, The History of the Swedes, which held that in Ancient Sweden people from Heligoland had a King who was directly descended from Odin, so he sacrificed ten of his sons to Odin as an offering. Mind boggling to see what the Goteborg lot got up to, descended from Freya, or whatevs. Your monarchs worked hard to be where they are today (although Gustav Vasa was just a rich peasant). At least Sweden kept well out of WWII so not much to say there.
 
Okay.

So following her lineage, Charles has to look four generations back to find a German-born antecedent. Princess Mary Adelaide, his great, great grandmother. Is that right or have I missed one?
Germany came into being 1871. You don't know your history. Far more ancient are the Princes of Kiev the founders of Ukraine (i.e., which was founded by the Rus) and from whom the Russians stole the name (who were Slavic). Hence, the Stalin-led Holodomor and claims on present day Ukraine (also Slavic nowadays) takes on a cruel twist of fate as to how Eastern bloc countries were treated. But did Stalin do it with intention or was it a botched 5-year plan of the Soviet Central Committee? Stalin playing with the price of grain (which recalls the reasons for the Irish famine) may or may not have been of genocidal intent.
 
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