Ed Israel/US Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

[The Great Zaganza]

Re-evaluate everything I thought about Trump.

Now you answer: if he doesn't, what will you do?

not call loudly for him to get executed by absolutely everyone with a weapon.

it is already the lowest point in US history that a President is calling for the End of a Civilization- this has never happened before.
by definition, Trump has declared Iran the Civilization, and the US the barbarian hordes.

It is weird that you think you can take a victory lap in case he doesn't use a nuke.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

You could wipe out a civilization with conventional means. Would that make things more palatable?

Genocide is still genocide, but the effort of doing so with conventional weapons is less likely to inspire a copycat. Maybe one genocide is less than two genocides.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

I don't know what the demented old goat might get up to. The cowards on his cabinet don't seem to have the backbone to stop him.

That's where my reassurance comes from. Trump himself is chicken ◊◊◊◊. He passive aggressively fires his staff on twitter because he doesn't have the balls to do it to their face. He's not nuking a damn thing of his own accord.

Venezuela was Hegseth's initiative. Iran was Israel's war to start. In both cases Dumbass reacted by running ahead of it and loudly said he totally had it planned the whole time, it was a great plan, the best plan, you wouldn't believe it. And you know what, I don't believe it.

 

[Ziggurat]

I was about 90% sure Putin would not invade Ukraine.

So your judgment isn't very good. Got it.

It is weird that you think you can take a victory lap in case he doesn't use a nuke.

This isn't about me taking a victory lap. It's about what you and others expect, and what you do if things don't happen the way you expect.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

So your judgment isn't very good. Got it.

This isn't about me taking a victory lap. It's about what you and others expect, and what you do if things don't happen the way you expect.

what is your interpretation of "end a civilization" ?

 

[Ziggurat]

what is your interpretation of "end a civilization" ?

Bloviating. I do not expect Trump to actually end any civilization. If he does, I will need to re-evaluate.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Bloviating. I do not expect Trump to actually end any civilization. If he does, I will need to re-evaluate.

why don't you re-evaluate that Trump bloviates about ending civilizations?

 

[Resume]

Bloviating. I do not expect Trump to actually end any civilization. If he does, I will need to re-evaluate.

How about genocide? Will you "re-evaluate" if he genocides bigly.

 

[Ziggurat]

How about genocide? Will you "re-evaluate" if he genocides bigly.

Yes.

What would cause you to re-evaluate?

 

[Ziggurat]

why don't you re-evaluate that Trump bloviates about ending civilizations?

Because bloviating is nothing new for Trump. It fits the familiar pattern. I'd prefer it if he didn't, but it's not outside expectations.

 

[Resume]

Yes.

What would cause you to re-evaluate?

Re-evaluate what? Trump is a psycho.

 

[Ziggurat]

Re-evaluate what?

Anything.

And it appears that nothing would get you to re-evaluate anything. Which tells me what I need to know.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

So your judgment isn't very good. Got it.

Correct. I don't think Trump will do it but I have poor judgement when it comes to how reckless megalomaniacs are prepared to be.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Bret Baier: "I just got off the phone with the president. He called. He said '8pm is happening. If we get to that point, there is going to be an attack like they have not seen.' He's sticking to that at this point."

Link

 

[Resume]

Anything.

I re-evaluate lots of things, but I don't need to re-evaluate that Trump is an narcissistic man-child, playing at war. That's just a brute fact.

And it appears that nothing would get you to re-evaluate anything. Which tells me what I need to know.

No, you don't know that at all; you're telling yourself something.

 

[Pixel42]

Because bloviating is nothing new for Trump. It fits the familiar pattern. I'd prefer it if he didn't, but it's not outside expectations.

So what exactly is it that you do expect Trump to do when his deadline expires and Iran has not complied with his demands? Because I freely admit that have absolutely no idea what he is going to do.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Bret Baier: "I just got off the phone with the president. He called. He said '8pm is happening. If we get to that point, there is going to be an attack like they have not seen.' He's sticking to that at this point."

That wording sounds like a bigger conventional attack. I'm slightly less alarmed.

 

[Ziggurat]

No, you don't know that at all; you're telling yourself something.

You told me. Repeatedly.

 

[Ziggurat]

So what exactly is it that you do expect Trump to do when his deadline expires and Iran has not complied with his demands? Because I freely admit that have absolutely no idea what he is going to do.

I expect he will probably order a wave of infrastructure attacks. I do not have high confidence in this assessment, though, because there are factors involved that the public is not privy to which could change that.

I do have high confidence that he will not order a nuclear strike. I do have high confidence that he will not do something that I would describe as destroying a civilization.

What about you?

 

[Resume]

You told me. Repeatedly.

The voices in your head, maybe.