Trump's promised ICE raids have begun

Andy_Ross said:
Arresting a violent offender

Bondi: "We are going to protect our churches. We are going to protect our great men and women in law enforcement, who were out there doing their jobs today. They were arresting a violent offender, and then this guy comes up.
We will support the men and women in law enforcement."

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Except the capitol police Blondi. Those who assaulted them are pardoned and given reparations, you cheesy, unqualified lying ◊◊◊◊.
 
dirtywick said:
there's actually a ton of views of this i keep seeing, it looks really bad
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Yes, it does.

Trump called Minneapolis a war zone; well it is now mother ◊◊◊◊◊◊, and it's your fault for sending untrained masked cowards there. If you, and Blondi and Noem thinks this is going to stop the protests and opposition, you people are out of your ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ minds.
 
The crucial part is whether they removed the gun from him before he was shot. I can't tell. The stills of the agent walking away are not helpful because that could the the agent's weapon, he isn't holding it like it is evidence. It makes no sense that the victim would have pulled a weapon while numerous armed agents were beating him, but I cant tell from any of the video.
 
lobosrul5 said:
The "pink lady video" is out.

Sure looks like he was being arrested for helping someone, then had the ◊◊◊◊ kicked out him, disarmed, and murdered.

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I've watched it about a dozen times, best I can tell, it is when someone shouts "gun, gun, gun" that the agent pulls his weapon and shoots numerous times from above. Given the wide scale immunity they've been granted, he is gonna walk. It was clearly an overreaction. Unlike the Good murder, I think he just heard "gun" and just assumed his role was to kill the armed person.
 
He was a licensed concealed carrier and that got him killed. When beating him, they discovered the weapon, and executed him for it. I've yet to see a perspective where he "brandished" it. Maybe if iceholes were all equipped with body-worn cameras . . .
 
stanfr said:
I've watched it about a dozen times, best I can tell, it is when someone shouts "gun, gun, gun" that the agent pulls his weapon and shoots numerous times from above. Given the wide scale immunity they've been granted, he is gonna walk. It was clearly an overreaction. Unlike the Good murder, I think he just heard "gun" and just assumed his role was to kill the armed person.
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So, it may simply be that while they were pummeling him on the ground, one of the ICE goons noticed his legal carry firearm in its holster and shouted "GUN!", which then prompted another poorly trained, psychologically unfit ICE goon to start shooting him. The rest of the Goon Squad, not wanting to miss out on the fun, opened fire as well.

I've only just watched the one video so far, but once again I'm seeing the same characteristic undisciplined chaos from the Goon Squad.
 
The "lady in pink" video is pretty definitive.

The person with the orange backpack is assaulted by the ICE officer who roughly pushes them away. The victim goes to help them, but is physically separated from her by other ICE agents. He appears to be trying to drag Orange Backpack to safety when an ICE officer approaches him and tries to pepper-spray him. He is then tackled. At no point does he seem interested in assaulting or obstructing the officers; he is clearly focused on Orange Backpack. While the victim is tackled, one of the ICE agents is holding his leg, but then moves his right hand to the victim's right waistband. This is the officer seen in the reverse angle walking away with what appears to be the victim's handgun before the shooting happens. The victim attempts to get to his feet, and at this point the camera moves away and we don't see the first shots.
 
Foster Zygote said:
So, it may simply be that while they were pummeling him on the ground, one of the ICE goons noticed his legal carry firearm in its holster and shouted "GUN!", which then prompted another poorly trained, psychologically unfit ICE goon to start shooting him. The rest of the Goon Squad, not wanting to miss out on the fun, opened fire as well.

I've only just watched the one video so far, but once again I'm seeing the same characteristic undisciplined chaos from the Goon Squad.
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Yeah, I haven't seen the weapon being brandished as claimed, and I've seen multiple angles multiple times. There may be one, and as I noted, a body cam would be helpful.
 
Resume said:
Yeah, I haven't seen the weapon being brandished as claimed, and I've seen multiple angles multiple times. There may be one, and as I noted, a body cam would be helpful.
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There was clearly no brandishing. The officer who walks away with the weapon seems to have obtained it by reaching for the victim's waistband. The weapon was evidently holstered until the ICE again disarmed him. And the victim had plenty of time to draw the weapon up to the point where he was forced to the ground and beaten.
 
JayUtah said:
The "lady in pink" video is pretty definitive.

The person with the orange backpack is assaulted by the ICE officer who roughly pushes them away. The victim goes to help them, but is physically separated from her by other ICE agents. He appears to be trying to drag Orange Backpack to safety when an ICE officer approaches him and tries to pepper-spray him. He is then tackled. At no point does he seem interested in assaulting or obstructing the officers; he is clearly focused on Orange Backpack. While the victim is tackled, one of the ICE agents is holding his leg, but then moves his right hand to the victim's right waistband. This is the officer seen in the reverse angle walking away with what appears to be the victim's handgun before the shooting happens. The victim attempts to get to his feet, and at this point the camera moves away and we don't see the first shots.
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The problem being that no matter what, the guy, Alex Pretti, is already being demonized as a terrorist in the same manner as Ms Good. From all the angles I've seen thus far, I've seen no "brandishing" of the weapon as proven liar Bovino claims.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Like seeing atrocities by russian troops in occupied Ukraine. I agree with the Xitter post differentiating between ICE thugs and Americans.
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No. One of the things I take exception to is the 'And this was done to a US Citizen...' narrative. Police brutality is not acceptable no matter who it's being inflicted on. Everyone is entitled to being treated as a human being under the law and subject to fair and humaine treatment.
 
/ trumpisto mode on
If only he had just ignored the SA/SS/Gestapo/Stasi errr ICE agents dragging someone away without any cause, then he could have lived. After all, obey the law at all costs. Especially if the 'law' is not yet coming after you and yours.
 
Foster Zygote said:
So, it may simply be that while they were pummeling him on the ground, one of the ICE goons noticed his legal carry firearm in its holster and shouted "GUN!", which then prompted another poorly trained, psychologically unfit ICE goon to start shooting him. The rest of the Goon Squad, not wanting to miss out on the fun, opened fire as well.

I've only just watched the one video so far, but once again I'm seeing the same characteristic undisciplined chaos from the Goon Squad.
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Yeah that's it in a nutshell. I think there was just one shooter though. This whole series of shootings reminds me a lot of Kent State, and no officer was ever convicted of any charges in that case either. But what it did do is mobilize the protests to a greater degree
 
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