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Ed The Fascism Checklist, Trump 2025

jt512 said:
The Washington Post article wasn't a hoax, but it was slanted and tendentious. It took 5 minutes of searching to find out that what the Coast Guard plans to do is to stop treating reports of "potential hate incidents" specially. They are now treated as any other report of "potential harassment." Harassment using Nazi symbols or nooses is still a prohibited and punishable offense, and public display of these symbols is prohibited, except in very limited, legitimate contexts.
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Here's the thing, I do actually think that trump and his cronies, especially his cronies are fascists, but this is not a great example of it. They've basically reclassified racist harassment as harassment. Which is not wrong and also not reclassifying obviously racists symbols as not racist.

Trump is bad but if I say he's not bad in the way that someone is saying he is bad in, I'm put into the box of folks saying trump isn't' bad.

There's a great headline on the Time website, Coast Guard backtracks by saying this is false. No, that's not backtracking that is saying the thing isn't true. Backtracking would be saying the thing is true, but we were wrong.
 
Not being a USAian, I don't actually hate Trump personally. A better word is "despise". Here's the difference:

If he fell down a step because he is a shambling, frail old man and broke his leg, I would not go "Ha ha!" That's not funny nor retribution. So it is not hateful to hope he gets treatment.

But if he got voted out of office in a landslide (or got impeached and dismissed), then was arrested and convicted of all the serious crimes against the USA he committed, then was sent to jail for the rest of his miserable life, I would also not go "Ha ha!" Instead, I would say "Good. He is a despicable tyrant. That's what he earned, and that's what he deserves. Good riddance. May the USA recover swiftly from his dreadful privations." But he is still a shambling, frail old man with not long to live, frankly.

The people I do hate are those who have been cynically using a feeble-minded Trump for their own twisted ends - Miller, Bannon, Navaro, RFK Jr., Vought, etc., and all those involved with Peter Thiel and Project 2025. They are the Wannsee Conference of the Trump Administration. Their traitorousness deserves the appropriate legal penalty.
 
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Norman Alexander said:
If he fell down a step because he is a shambling, frail old man and broke his leg, I would not go "Ha ha!" That's not funny nor retribution. So it is not hateful to hope he gets treatment.
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It would be really funny when the cultists showed up to his next rally with crutches and leg casts, though ;) . But he doesn't have the energy to hold rallies anymore, so.
 
The cabinet meeting this morning would make Kim Jong Un say "wow." I mean, they are praising Trump for keeping hurricanes away from the USA and saving hundreds of millions of American lives from the drug cartels....
 
"I have determined that, for the Good of our Country, especially in these very troubled and dangerous times, our Military Budget for the year 2027 should not be $1 Trillion Dollars, but rather $1.5 Trillion Dollars..."

Massive military expansion
Annexation threats
Demonstrated willingness to use force unilaterally
New imperial doctrine proclaimed
Withdrawal from international organizations and international treaties

At this stage it's not warning signs anymore. We're watching the thing itself, in motion.
 
Suicidal Nihilism - Check

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Penguin Walking Toward Mountain or Nihilist Penguin, also known as Lonely Penguin, Wandering Penguin or Werner Herzog’s Deranged Penguin, refers to a viral
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Trump and Hegesth and others posting memes of the "lone penguin", and the right-wing blogosphere embracing the Penguin Meme as the quintessence of MAGA and US exceptionalism gives the game away that all these people are doing is going on a killdozer-like rampage that will see many others killed before they kill themselves.
Trump World 2.0 has already decided that The Woke World will win, unless it's taken down in a Kamikaze run.

Destruction of the US is desirable to prevent it becoming more liberal, progressive, democratic, multinationally aligned.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Suicidal Nihilism - Check

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Penguin Walking Toward Mountain / Nihilist Penguin | Know Your Meme

Penguin Walking Toward Mountain or Nihilist Penguin, also known as Lonely Penguin, Wandering Penguin or Werner Herzog’s Deranged Penguin, refers to a viral
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Trump and Hegesth and others posting memes of the "lone penguin", and the right-wing blogosphere embracing the Penguin Meme as the quintessence of MAGA and US exceptionalism gives the game away that all these people are doing is going on a killdozer-like rampage that will see many others killed before they kill themselves.
Trump World 2.0 has already decided that The Woke World will win, unless it's taken down in a Kamikaze run.

Destruction of the US is desirable to prevent it becoming more liberal, progressive, democratic, multinationally aligned.
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As I poeted in a comment below a youtube short Folding Ideas posted on the meme it's the far right admitting they've entered late stage nazism already.
 
Andy_Ross said:
"I have determined that, for the Good of our Country, especially in these very troubled and dangerous times, our Military Budget for the year 2027 should not be $1 Trillion Dollars, but rather $1.5 Trillion Dollars..."

Massive military expansion
Annexation threats
Demonstrated willingness to use force unilaterally
New imperial doctrine proclaimed
Withdrawal from international organizations and international treaties

At this stage it's not warning signs anymore. We're watching the thing itself, in motion.
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Heil Trumpenfuhrer!
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
I know its 2026 now, but is invading countries you are at peace with and whose only crime is having a leader that disagrees with you another fascism indicator?
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Haven't heard any objections lately from the resident totally-not-fascists who were so active in this thread in the beginning, so I'm guessing the answer is yes.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Haven't heard any objections lately from the resident totally-not-fascists who were so active in this thread in the beginning, so I'm guessing the answer is yes.
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We've reached the point where being a totally-not-fascist-wink-wink-nudge-nudge might lead the people you're defending to accuse you of being antifa, a traitor, a domestic terrorist.
 
Tennessee apparently wants to let public schools ban immigrant children.

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Undocumented immigrants pay far more in taxes than they receive in benefits. This is just discrimination.
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But don't worry, kids, totally not fascism👍🏻.
 
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