Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

[acbytesla]

We need to find a Christian for acby.

No thanks. Been down that path. Didn't work.

 

[Poem]

Can you try to be more hyperbolic? Total NONSENSE. This is none of that.

Nonsense that children are being hyper-sexualised? They clearly are. Barely legal is recognised as harmful and is illegal in the UK. That isn't nonsense. It's actually factual. And the porn industry is benefitting right now from showing their content to kids - they harvest data and sell it to advertisers.

 

[Poem]

I would argue that watching porn has no relationship to being or not being a feminist. Women watch porn. It's not just men. There is lots of porn that specifically cater to women. Now individually, it might not do anything for you. But even that is a generalization. You may have not found the right pornography for you. People, not women, not men, like what they like. I think it's also important to understand that our tastes change. What did it for you before is boring today. And things you couldn't imagine being interested in when you're younger now are delicious.

Which is another way of saying that porn users can a do end up migrating towards a huge array of possible kinks including paedophilia.

You're the one bragging that you know so much about porn.

 

[Poem]

Getting Katy Perry Chained to the Rhythm vibes here.

So, put your rose-colour glasses on
And party on...

Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one's on me
We're all chained to the rhythm
To the rhythm, to the rhythm

 

[Skeptical Greg]

This is more of an immediate threat than porn.

Modern day terrorism': How the online extremist network 764 is threatening teen lives​

But no, it doesn't need a new thread, because it has the same solution as the perceived porn problem.
Parents taking charge of children's access to the internet.

 

[Lithrael]

Nonsense that children are being hyper-sexualised? They clearly are.

IMO the vast, vast majority of the hyper-sexualization problem kids are dealing with is in eyeball-seeking, advertiser-driven pop culture. People selling records and clothes and advertiser engagement on social media have infinitely more reach into kids' spaces than smut peddlers do.

Porn that could be mistaken for CSAM? A legitimate issue. This video is not that.

In these two respects it seems to me that not only are your guns pointed in the wrong direction but your range is way off.

 

[Lithrael]

They are feeding a MAP appetite; why else would someone seek it out?

I already explained why. The target of the classic teacher/student fantasy is the teacher. The entire deal with a classroom fantasy is about people who are or were students, indulging in a fantasy of sexy times happening in the classroom. Instead of just French. Post #4582

 

[Poem]

This is more of an immediate threat than porn.

Modern day terrorism': How the online extremist network 764 is threatening teen lives​

But no, it doesn't need a new thread, because it has the same solution as the perceived porn problem.
Parents taking charge of children's access to the internet.

Countries have a duty to uphold the UNCRC and make the net safe for children. If you want to do real SJW work, then start by putting them first. Remember the Mandela quote?

There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats its children.

 

[Poem]

I already explained why. The target of the classic teacher/student fantasy is the teacher. The entire deal with a classroom fantasy is about people who are or were students, indulging in a fantasy of sexy times happening in the classroom. Instead of just French. Post #4582

In other words you have determined that no MAPs are consuming this content? You are desperately attempting to sanitise something that the UK government deems illegal; like seriously illegal.

 

[Lithrael]

You are desperately attempting to sanitise something that the UK government deems illegal; like seriously illegal.

You've quoted that as saying illegal stuff is with "people pretending to be under the age of consent" and I have no evidence that anyone in the Bonnie Blue 'classroom' orgy video is pretending to be under the age of consent.

Paedos can watch whatever legal content they want, I assume. They can watch Countdown too.

 

[Poem]

You've quoted that as saying illegal stuff is with "people pretending to be under the age of consent" and I have no evidence that anyone in the Bonnie Blue 'classroom' orgy video is pretending to be under the age of consent.

Their intention was to give the impression of group sex among adults? To achieve that they put on school uniforms, sat at desks in a classroom and chose actors that looked young?

I feel inspired to go and read that Orwell masterpiece again.

The whitewash continues.

 

[Lithrael]

I understand you think it's disingenuous of me to say "looking young" and "pretending to be under the age of consent" are not the same thing, but... They're not. They're not in a real classroom either.

 

[Poem]

I understand you think it's disingenuous of me to say "looking young" and "pretending to be under the age of consent" are not the same thing, but... They're not. They're not in a real classroom either.

You are quibbling.

In the UK it is illegal to produce or consume any pornography that depicts the participants as being under 18 regardless of the participants actual age. To do so could lead to you being imprisoned for up to 10 years, heavy fines and being for the rest of your life on the "sex offenders" list.

 

[theprestige]

Why don't you check your facts before posting?

I have. You misunderstand what Darat has said.

And just to be clear and remind anyone else following - I said: Darat (UK based) says you'll go to prison for watching it (the 'it' being the Bonnie Blue school classroom content).

And you are wrong about what Darat said.

Quoting other members is perfectly appropriate.

Sure. Trying to misuse those quotes to make your arguments for you is not. If I want to debate Darat, I'll debate him directly. Stop hiding behind his posts, and make your own arguments.

Of which you appear to take every opportunity to undermine.

I don't understand what this means.

No. Please stop saying this.

Yes. Please stop doing this.

iyho

Not an opinion; a wish. An understandable wish, considering how you bounce around.

 

[theprestige]

iyho and about as rude as my 'God' post....so not all that.

Again, in the UK the law is what has been stated (though there is a grey area when it comes to the online world compared to the offline but the coming Crime and Policing Bill should clear that up). My original statement regarding MAPs was a fair one given the nature of the Bonnie Blue content...at least from a UK perspective. There is a reason why this content is deemed harmful and illegal and your trivialisation of it is...well, extremely provocative. I have already quoted Michael Sheath from that Guardian article.

No. Bonnie Blue's content has nothing to do with MAPs. You're still pretending attraction to sexually mature young adults is a pedophile thing. Stop it.

 

[theprestige]

Which is another way of saying that porn users can a do end up migrating towards a huge array of possible kinks including paedophilia.

Pedophilia is not a kink. It's a mental disorder. Ironically, your rhetoric is actually trying to minimize and normalize it.

You're the one bragging that you know so much about porn.

One should be informed about the issues one debates. Stop berating people for knowing more about your topic than you do.

 

[Poem]

I have. You misunderstand what Darat has said.

And you are wrong about what Darat said.

Sure. Trying to misuse those quotes to make your arguments for you is not. If I want to debate Darat, I'll debate him directly. Stop hiding behind his posts, and make your own arguments.

I misunderstand, am wrong and misuse Darat's quote - but, as usual, no explanation.

 

[Lithrael]

There are plenty of uniformed school students who aren't underage. I've only seen like 8 people in the BB video. It's not even a stretch to find eight 18-yr-olds in a graduating class.

Just to double check, I image searched sixth form students. The younger ones look a bit too young, the older ones look fine. I'd still expect a 30 year old to want to see some ID if they got hit on by a young person like that, but they have beards (and terrible haircuts).

Anyway. I don't think the reason her video isn't on DVD in the UK is because it would be illegal. I think she just generally doesn't sell DVD's. I just did a casual search and all I found was an old Brazzers disc she performs in.

 

[Poem]

No. Bonnie Blue's content has nothing to do with MAPs.

Again, not substantiated. The notion that MAPs don't consume this type of content is fanciful.

You're still pretending attraction to sexually mature young adults is a pedophile thing. Stop it.

You are doing the rose-coloured glasses thing with extreme content. Why are you doing so? What is your interest?

 

[Poem]

The thread slowly descends into Orwellian doublethink.