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Merged why the release of names associated with Epstein mean little to absolutely nothing.

wareyin said:
Statutory rape is always the fault of the adult, for a reason. Your "defense" of 'but those girls wanted it' ignores that. This is 100% on the adults in the situation, 0% on those girls.

And the bit you quoted was about Pizza-gate, and explicitly mentioned the non-existent basement. Again, you're trying to defend a known sex trafficker who in your own opinion knew he was boinking underage girls by bringing up a baseless conspiracy theory about a sex abuse ring for "adrenochrome harvesting" in a non-existent basement.
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dirtywick said:
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anyway, isn't luring vulnerable high school girls to do sex stuff with him for small amounts of money bad? it seems bad.
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I am trying to correct the misconceptions and misrepresentations of the Epstein case because it so smoothly falls into CT territory. And you and others are pushing back any effort to correct the record simply because you don't like how I described the details of what happened. HOLY CRAP! Did the lead detective of the case (p. 80) seriously ask a 17 year old if sex with Epstein was consensual!? :eek: And jurors and prosecutors describing the girls as strippers?!

How many times do I have to defend debunking conspiracy theories?! No real skeptics in this forum were calling fellow debunkers CIA or Bush shills for being too enthusiastic in debunking 9/11 CTs. Nobody thought it was a distraction or cover to focus on AE9/11 Truth over Saudi connections. If a false belief is pervasive enough, it's worth addressing from a skeptical perspective.
 
i think it comes with the territory that the kind of women that epstein abused are going to be a little sketchy and flaky. for example i’ve read excerpts of giuffre’s book and it sounds like she came from a broken and abusive home, like the kind of household where her dad let her run off and give erotic massages to epstein.

i appreciate the facts and evidence, i don’t necessarily agree with everything you’ve said. particularly your recent characterization of his victims or the nature of their relationship with epstein.
 
Venom said:
HOLY CRAP! Did the lead detective of the case (p. 80) seriously ask a 17 year old if sex with Epstein was consensual!?
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Uh... no, he didn't. Asking about another (over 18) woman, the question was "what kind of relationship did she have with Epstien?" The response was that it was a consensual sexual one.

Did you mean another page than the one you stated?

Eta: the documents page counter reads page 80 as the actual transcripts page 64, but that page doesn’t say anything like that either
 
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well there's a section on page 67 or so about the high schoolers he would pay a few hundreds dollars to massage him while he masterbated that's followed by a section about his yugoslavian sex slave. that all sounds pretty human trafficky to me. they say he had a deformed penis on page 70 that he used to penetrate maybe 17 year olds.

i mean, there's some bad stuff in there lol
 
Thermal said:
Uh... no, he didn't. Asking about another (over 18) woman, the question was "what kind of relationship did she have with Epstien?" The response was that it was a consensual sexual one.

Did you mean another page than the one you stated?
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Oh not that one my mistake page 128.

I believe the woman on page 80 is actually Joanna Sjoberg who went to the island.
 
Why won't it matter? Because we've all made up our minds. Only the names on the other team matter.
 
dirtywick said:
well there's a section on page 67 or so about the high schoolers he would pay a few hundreds dollars to massage him while he masterbated that's followed by a section about his yugoslavian sex slave. that all sounds pretty human trafficky to me. they say he had a deformed penis on page 70 that he used to penetrate maybe 17 year olds.

i mean, there's some bad stuff in there lol
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I feel like I keep having to bring this back to the point. Bad isn't the dispute here. Sex is going to be uncomfortable to describe in detail in front of people. None of it is even close to what is alleged by Virginia Roberts or the other fantasists, even though their accounts are what really animate the public.
 
Venom said:
I feel like I keep having to bring this back to the point. Bad isn't the dispute here. Sex is going to be uncomfortable to describe in detail in front of people. None of it is even close to what is alleged by Virginia Roberts or the other fantasists, even though their accounts are what really animate the public.
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yeah, i get it. it's not the only thing we have to talk about either. i can comment on other things.
 
ahhell said:
Why won't it matter? Because we've all made up our minds. Only the names on the other team matter.
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That's not the case at all. It's not a list of names of Epstein's associates that matters. It's the details.
 
Venom said:
I am trying to correct the misconceptions and misrepresentations of the Epstein case because it so smoothly falls into CT territory. And you and others are pushing back any effort to correct the record simply because you don't like how I described the details of what happened. HOLY CRAP! Did the lead detective of the case (p. 80) seriously ask a 17 year old if sex with Epstein was consensual!? :eek: And jurors and prosecutors describing the girls as strippers?!

How many times do I have to defend debunking conspiracy theories?! No real skeptics in this forum were calling fellow debunkers CIA or Bush shills for being too enthusiastic in debunking 9/11 CTs. Nobody thought it was a distraction or cover to focus on AE9/11 Truth over Saudi connections. If a false belief is pervasive enough, it's worth addressing from a skeptical perspective.
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So far the only conspiracy theory you have found seems to be Pizza-gate, and you and that author want to exonerate Epstein because Pizza-gate was a baseless conspiracy theory. Comparing your 'but those teenage girls wanted it, they forced themselves on poor Epstein' defense with 9/11 conspiracy theory debunking? That's....very off base.
 
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