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Split Thread Are Antifa and violent leftists the cause of everything wrong in America?

tons of antifa folks got arrested during the blm stuff and since. they’re constantly getting gassed and pepper sprayed and body slammed and beat up by cops. now they converted border patrol into a urban police force to terrorize them with the mexicans. that’s the accountability they get.

where’s the ice accountability

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i think what is being lost here is that ice is doing that stuff to people who aren’t antifa and aren’t doing that stuff. when it comes to accountability that should be your primary concern imo. the government is lying and terrorizing cities so trump can long strong on his propaganda channels to his lunatic followers is, idk, unfathomably worse
 
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steenkh said:
First of all, you did write "Burning down cities", not setting fires to garbage cans,
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You think that $4 million in real property damages comes just from setting fires to garbage cans? That's just amazing! Never mind that public news tells us of and even names several buildings that were set on fire. No, you ignore reality completely so you can rest securely in this nonsense. It is because of this delusional thinking that it isn't possible to have a reasoned discussion with Leftists, and forums like this are doomed to fall to one side or the other.
steenkh said:
so pardon me for thinking you meant that the cities were burned down.
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Yeah, Leftists, such as Antifa, set fire to cities. The reactions to this fact by the Leftists on this forum is grotesque.
steenkh said:
Secondly, the president you voted for actually said that Portland has been burned down, and that it is a war zones that is worse than Afghanistan was, so how could I know that you disagreed with him?
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Maybe ask? Trump says and does a lot of things that, frankly, really tick me off. I've been quite angry at him for most of this year. However, as long as he has a chance of disrupting the Liberal Left, I'm tolerating his shenanigans. Anyway, I never paid much attention to anything he said, even in his first term, when I wasn't so irritated with him. I learned that what people do is more important than what people say, especially in Trump's case. He has always said the wildest things, sometimes maybe intentionally, just to throw people off.
 
Opcode said:
Yeah, Leftists, such as Antifa, set fire to cities. The reactions to this fact by the Leftists on this forum is grotesque.
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Since you don't know what socialism is, and thus have no credibility whatsoever, I'm going to have to ask you to prove this.

You can ignore this post too, but this just proves that I'm right, and you're wrong.

Go ahead, prove me wrong.
 
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Opcode said:
You think that $4 million in real property damages comes just from setting fires to garbage cans?
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No, I am thinking that Portland isn't "burned down". I am not claiming that the damage was small. I was in Portland during the previous bout of disturbances, and I saw absolutely no damage (but I stayed away from areas with demonstrations). I haven't been to Portland this time around, but considering that last time was worse, I doubt that Portland is a smoking pile of ruins today,
Opcode said:
Maybe ask? Trump says and does a lot of things that, frankly, really tick me off. I've been quite angry at him for most of this year. However, as long as he has a chance of disrupting the Liberal Left, I'm tolerating his shenanigans.
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You accept ruining the economy, health, and environment in order to have the satisfaction that the Liberals are weeping?
 
Opcode said:
You think that $4 million in real property damages comes just from setting fires to garbage cans? That's just amazing! Never mind that public news tells us of and even names several buildings that were set on fire.
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A quick Google search tells me that the budget of the City of Portland, Oregon in 2020 was $8.64 Billion. A little basic arithmetic tells me that the property damage you are citing is ~0.0463% of the city budget for that year.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
There is no 'Antifa'. How can we have a reasonable discussion in this thread when people don't understand that underlying premise?
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I would like a list of people who claim Antifa doesn't exist, versus those who acknowledge that it does. I'm wondering how big a chunk of the Democratic Party would be on either side?
 
Pixel42 said:
People on the left generally tend to think that everyone should be free to hold whatever religious beliefs they wish, they object only when people of any religion attempt to impose their beliefs on those who do not share them. Christian fundamentalists are a much bigger problem in the US than Islamic fundamentalists in this respect.

It is in no way surprising that both moderate Christians and moderate Islamists are well represented on the left, and find common cause in opposing the far right.
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Palestine doesn't strike me as holding moderate Islamic views. "Death to Israel" and hundreds of rocket attacks into Israel spoils that illusion.
 
Opcode said:
I would like a list of people who claim Antifa doesn't exist, versus those who acknowledge that it does. I'm wondering how big a chunk of the Democratic Party would be on either side?
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No, you first.

Where's your evidence that any of your blatherings are true.

You can hide, but I'll keep asking until you answer.
 
Opcode said:
Palestine doesn't strike me as holding moderate Islamic views. "Death to Israel" and hundreds of rocket attacks into Israel spoils that illusion.
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More blatherings.

Now answer my questions too or are you afraid to be outed as a liar.

After all, the truth will set you free.
 
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