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Split Thread Virginia Guiffre v Duke of York

I just saw a headline on ABC News saying Buckingham Palace has announced Andrew will still remain 8th in line to the throne.

How contradictory to their statement earlier sympathising with his victims!
Charles doesn't have the power to remove anyone from the line of succession; that would take an act of Parliament.

ETA: Even the abdication of Edward VIII and George VI's accession to the throne were only possible due to His Majesty's Declaration of Abdication Act 1936WP. The Act also legally barred any future children of the former (which, of course, he never had) from inheriting the throne.
 
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Charles doesn't have the power to remove anyone from the line of succession; that would take an act of Parliament.
And the consent of all 14 commonwealth countries. Costly and time wasting. The last change took 2 years to ratify? (Adding girls to the succession process)
ETA: Even the abdication of Edward VIII and George VI's accession to the throne were only possible due to His Majesty's Declaration of Abdication Act 1936WP. The act also legally barred any future children of the former (which, of course, he never had) from inheriting the throne.
 
And the consent of all 14 commonwealth countries. Costly and time wasting. The last change took 2 years to ratify? (Adding girls to the succession process)
That's why Charles decided to formally strip Andrew of all his titles, because there were movements in Parliament to do it, and Charles didn't want them to have to waste time debating and passing a bill (while undoubtedly causing further embarrassment to the Crown). I suspect that it will only become an issue if Andrew were to somehow move well up in the line of succession, say, in the event that William and all of his children were to die in some terrible accident/terrorist attack/assassination. I suspect that in that case, Harry would abdicate. (I can't imagine that he would even want to be king, or want any of his descendants to inherit the throne, after all the bridges that he's burned.) But, I presume that the Act of Abdication for Harry would provide that Andrew be removed from the line of succession.

Finally, a nitpick. Girls weren't added to the succession process. (Elizabeth and Victoria would like a word. :p) They were just given equal precedence. However, this was not made retroactive, so Anne and her children are still behind Andrew (for the time being) and Edward, even though she's older, but Charlotte is ahead of Louis, because she's older.
 
I just saw a headline on ABC News saying Buckingham Palace has announced Andrew will still remain 8th in line to the throne.

How contradictory to their statement earlier sympathising with his victims!

I don't think the Palace can o anything about that, the succession is a matter of Law and therefore the responsibility of Parliament.
 
I just saw a headline on ABC News saying Buckingham Palace has announced Andrew will still remain 8th in line to the throne.

How contradictory to their statement earlier sympathising with his victims!
As already stated by others, the King can't do anything about the line of succession himself. Andrew has been dropping down the line of succession since his big brother got married (though his sister had it worse, being bumped down for each new younger brother), and it would take a series of very unlikely events for him to accede to the throne now so I don't think it's worth worrying about, certainly not as a matter of urgency.

I do note that the comment about sympathising with victims is deliberately vague, avoiding reference to any specific victims.
 
Ouch! What a way to rub it in.


Prince Philip was naturalised as Philip Mountbatten, whe the Queen took the throne it was under his name and as 'House Mountbatten' for about two months and three day, then an announcement was made in Privy Council reverting the Queen, and her house back to Windsor, the Queen's children would not (until this week) have surnames, but in 1960 an announcement was made that their grandchildren and subsequent heirs outside the immediate line of succession would be 'Mountbatten Windsors'.

I happened to be reading about this a couple of day ago in Norman Bakers excellent 'And what do you do?'
 
At least poor Andrew won't be turned out without a penny. Not sure how giving him extra money will prevent him overspending.



The former Duke of York is in line to receive a large one-off payment and an annual stipend designed to prevent him overspending in his new life as a commoner, the Guardian understands.

One option for a relocation settlement, as the king strives for a “once and for all” solution to the problem of Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, includes an initial six-figure sum to cover his move from Royal Lodge in Windsor to private accommodation in Sandringham, Norfolk.

This would be followed by an annuity, paid from Charles’s private funds, and thought to be several times Mountbatten Windsor’s £20k-a-year navy pension, sources close to the matter said. Talks on the relocation package are believed to be ongoing

 
That's why Charles decided to formally strip Andrew of all his titles, because there were movements in Parliament to do it, and
Charles didn't want them to have to waste time debating and passing a bill (while undoubtedly causing further embarrassment to the Crown). I suspect that it will only become an issue if Andrew were to somehow move well up in the line of succession, say, in the event that William and all of his children were to die in some terrible accident/terrorist attack/assassination. I suspect that in that case, Harry would abdicate. (I can't imagine that he would even want to be king, or want any of his descendants to inherit the throne, after all the bridges that he's burned.) But, I presume that the Act of Abdication for Harry would provide that Andrew be removed from the line of succession.

Finally, a nitpick. Girls weren't added to the succession process. (Elizabeth and Victoria would like a word. :p) They were just given equal precedence. However, this was not made retroactive, so Anne and her children are still behind Andrew (for the time being) and Edward, even though she's older, but Charlotte is ahead of Louis, because she's older.


I would suggest that the concern was less bout wasting Parliamentry time and more about avoiding setting a precedent that allows politicians to interfere in the Royal Family's awarding of countless shiney baubles to each other.
 
I would suggest that the concern was less bout wasting Parliamentry time and more about avoiding setting a precedent that allows politicians to interfere in the Royal Family's awarding of countless shiney baubles to each other.
As well as avoiding the ongoing coverage that would have ensued as the matter was debated in Parliament.
 
Prince Philip was naturalised as Philip Mountbatten, whe the Queen took the throne it was under his name and as 'House Mountbatten' for about two months and three day, then an announcement was made in Privy Council reverting the Queen, and her house back to Windsor, the Queen's children would not (until this week) have surnames, but in 1960 an announcement was made that their grandchildren and subsequent heirs outside the immediate line of succession would be 'Mountbatten Windsors'.

I happened to be reading about this a couple of day ago in Norman Bakers excellent 'And what do you do?'

And, of course, Mountbatten was the anglicised version of Battenburg, given that Phil and the rest were descendants of the minor German aristocracy imposed on the Greeks after they gained independence from the Ottomans.

Not to forget that Windsor is also a piece of made up pish to avoid having to acknowledge really being Saxe-Coburg-Gotha...

It'ss all a load of wank, really.
 
I just saw a headline on ABC News saying Buckingham Palace has announced Andrew will still remain 8th in line to the throne.

How contradictory to their statement earlier sympathising with his victims!
Is this the official line of succession?


I was curious. If he's 8th in line, who is ahead of and behind him?

It seems to be the Prince of Wales (William) followed by his three children in descending order of age. Then Harry and his 2 children.

Then it says The Duke of York. I assume that means Andrew, right? Maybe the website just hasn't been updated yet to reflect the fact that he has been stripped of that title?
 
Is this the official line of succession?

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Then it says The Duke of York. I assume that means Andrew, right? Maybe the website just hasn't been updated yet to reflect the fact that he has been stripped of that title?
Yeah, they've just not changed that to Mr Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.
 

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