General UK politics VIII - The Last Tory

Carrot Flower King said:
All these True Brits who want us out of the ECHR, 'cos it's Forrin and We Can't Have The Forrin Telling Us True Brits Wot To Do, talk about a new bill of rights or similar BS...

Has anyone seen or heard anything from any of these True Brits about what is actually wrong with the ECHR (aside from being Forrin) or what such a bill of rights would contain?

Or is it really just "Waaaaaaaah! You inn't the boss of me!"
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I had a couple of acquaintances/not quite friends talk about this stuff a while back. We pushed back, asking ‘which specific rights under the convention do you want to remove, or which rights aren’t in there that you want to add?’

Never got a specific answer.
 
He's absolutely right, minimum wage should be increased.
Also, if you qualify for PIP you get that on top of your minimum wage.

Zia Yusuf
@ZiaYusufUK
Thanks to the Tories and Labour, if you claim Universal Credit Health, Universal Credit Housing and PIP, you now take home £2,500 more each year than someone working full time on minimum wage.
There are around a million people who do just this.
How is that fair?
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1983539418565885989
 
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gypsyjackson said:
I had a couple of acquaintances/not quite friends talk about this stuff a while back. We pushed back, asking ‘which specific rights under the convention do you want to remove, or which rights aren’t in there that you want to add?’

Never got a specific answer.
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I'd never thought to look at what it entailed, presuming it to be a trees worth of dense legalese, but I saw this on Reddit and was surprised how well articulated the concise version was. Checked what the Government says to make sure it matched (yes) and a quick Google to see why Article 1 wasn't listed.
But yeah "Which rights don't you want to apply to you?" is the best pushback
 
Andy_Ross said:
Today's Gammon outrage, Starmer giving our money to Jamaica. What a traitor.

A selection of comments from Patriots

So Starmer has just given 2.5 million of our money to Jamaica today for hurricane relief.

As soon as I heard that a hurricane was due in Jamaica, my first thought was How much is this going to cost us?
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A few years ago I did a (small ship) cruise of the eastern Caribbean, on which the guest speaker was Rear Admiral John Lippiett. As we were heading for Dominica he told us it would be his first visit since, as a young officer, he'd been on a Royal Navy ship that was in the area when Hurricane David hit the island in 1979. He'd been put in charge of relief efforts and he spoke movingly of his experience, the devastation and injuries that had been caused. I found this on wiki:

The destroyer HMS Fife (D20) was on its way back to the United Kingdom when the hurricane struck, and was turned back to provide emergency aid to the island. Sailing through mountainous seas, Fife docked in the main harbor at Roseau without assistance, and was the only outside help for several days. The crew provided work details and medical parties to offer assistance to the island and concentrated on the hospital buildings, the airstrip, and restoring power and water. The ship's helicopter (called Humphrey) took medical aid into the hills to assist people who were cut off from getting to other help by fallen trees. The ship also used its radio systems to broadcast news and music to the island to inform the population of what was being done and how to get assistance. This was the first time a Royal Navy ship had provided a public broadcast news service.
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Lippiett talked about the helicopter, saying it was able to land on the cricket pitches every village had, which is how they were able to get aid to even remote places.

Anyway the day before we arrived at Dominica he mentioned that, to his surprise, he'd received an invitation to dinner from the island's President. He wasn't sure how they even knew he was coming. He and his wife duly went and discovered they'd put on a full scale banquet for him; everyone on the island seemed to want to shake his hand. 50 years later they hadn't forgotten, and were still grateful for the help he and his crewmates had given them.

So when I see comments like this all I can say is: what the ◊◊◊◊ happened to my country?
 
Everyone from BBC to GBNews seem to be keen on pressuring Reeves out.

It's the end for Starmer and Labour, there has to be an election now, the level of corruption is unprecedented.
 
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Sky going with Kemi

Kemi Badenoch has said hacking into Harriet Harman's website when she was younger is "not the same" as Rachel Reeves failing to get a £900 rental licence for her home.

The Tory leader, who has called for the chancellor to go for breaking the law, told Sky News' deputy political editor Sam Coates she was not an MP in 2008 when she got into Labour peer Baroness Harman's website and changed it so it was pro-Conservative.
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news.sky.com

Badenoch says hacking into Harriet Harman's website 17 years ago 'not the same' as Reeves breaking law

The Conservative leader previously admitted to breaking into Baroness Harman's website, where she wrote pro-Conservative lines as if she was the Labour peer.
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BBC

The prime minister and his independent ethics adviser have received "new information" about Rachel Reeves' rental arrangements

A No 10 spokesman says: "Following a review of emails sent and received by the chancellor's husband, new information has come to light"
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www.bbc.co.uk

Rachel Reeves: Letting agent apologises to chancellor for not applying for rental licence

The agent says "we deeply regret the issue caused to our clients"; Reeves says in a new letter to the prime minister: "I accept it was our responsibility to secure the licence".
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Andy_Ross said:
Catherine Blaiklock
@blaiklockBP
Get a list.
Make sure every single one of those 154 traitorous MPs lose their seat .
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Tell you what you could do - you could deny them their human rights.

Oh, no, wait - you're going to deny everyone their human rights, aren't you? Silly me. Well, I'm sure you'll have no difficulty thinking of something ghastly you want to do to take your revenge. You may be ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ incompetents but you don't lack hatred. There isn't a compassionate bone in any of your bodies.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Sky going with Kemi



news.sky.com

Badenoch says hacking into Harriet Harman's website 17 years ago 'not the same' as Reeves breaking law

The Conservative leader previously admitted to breaking into Baroness Harman's website, where she wrote pro-Conservative lines as if she was the Labour peer.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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So, lemme get this straight: committing an actual real crime is not as bad ass a junior letting agent not filling in the correct paper work, then leaving their job and not telling anyone else about it (as just reported on PM)?

Right, Kemi...
 
Andy_Ross said:
Everyone from BBC to GBNews seem to be keen on pressuring Reeves out.

It's the end for Starmer and Labour, there has to be an election now, the level of corruption is unprecedented.
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So, just to be clear, hacking an MP's website or kicking seven shades of ◊◊◊◊ out of your girlfriend in a nightclub car park don't count if you did them before you were an MP, but not notifying the insurance company that you found the mobile phone that you thought was taken in an actual real mugging does. Under paying and then making up stamp duty on a particularly complicated housing situation or not knowing you need a somewhat unusual landlords license when in office does count, but underpaying several million pounds in tax when Chancellor or forgetting about those seven flats you sold doesn't. Is that about right?

Oh, and no-one ask where Nige's girlfriend got the money for a house or the stamp duty implications on that.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
So, just to be clear, hacking an MP's website or kicking seven shades of ◊◊◊◊ out of your girlfriend in a nightclub car park don't count if you did them before you were an MP, but not notifying the insurance company that you found the mobile phone that you thought was taken in an actual real mugging does. Under paying and then making up stamp duty on a particularly complicated housing situation or not knowing you need a somewhat unusual landlords license when in office does count, but underpaying several million pounds in tax when Chancellor or forgetting about those seven flats you sold doesn't. Is that about right?

Oh, and no-one ask where Nige's girlfriend got the money for a house or the stamp duty implications on that.
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That is exactly it and don't you lefty scum forget it!
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Who she anyway?

Ever done anything I should actually know about, let alone care about?

CBA to even use any well known search engine...There is a wall to be stared at...
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Wikipedia says she founded and led the Brexit party, campaigned for No Deal, quit over toxic tweets etc etc. Doesn't tick all the boxes - first husband was Nepali, second husband is British Jamaican.
 
Matt Vickers MP
@Matt_VickersMP
Starmer’s government is riddled with scandal.

Rachel Reeves has been caught red handed breaking the law.

The Transport Secretary was sacked for fraud.

The anti-corruption Minister, forced out over corruption allegations.

Angela Rayner, caught evading tax.

Total chaos.
 
Calls from opposition MPs for Reeves to be forced to pay back all the rent she has had for her property as it was obtained illegally.
She has to resign and should face prosecution for breaking the law.

Starmer says she has his full backing.

She will be gone before the end of next week.
 
A Tory spokesman said: “Rachel Reeves has broken the law and broken the ministerial code, but Keir Starmer is too weak to sack her.

“While the Chancellor is planning tax hikes for millions of families across the country at the Budget, it’s one rule for the Chancellor and another for everyone else.

“Keir Starmer pledged to restore integrity to politics, but now he’s laughing in the face of the British public.

“He should grow a backbone and sack the Chancellor now. This is not over.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1983693393466155410
 
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