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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

The UK pornography taskforce is proposing to ban ‘barely legal’ because none of the actors give the impression that they are minors? Why do they want to ban it?
Because porn where the actors do give the impression that they are minors is already banned. As @Darat pointed out.

They just want to expand definitions to include more and more porn because they have been convinced by religious moralisation that porn is bad.
 
Getting a little personal there, but no and no. The child in question is now an adult and no longer needs parenting, co- or otherwise.
The question is, did you abandon the mother of your child, or did you stay in their lives, doing your part to partner with her in the raising of that child.

Which is a little personal, yes, but you're the one who introduced your personal situation into the conversation.

Marriage is a reasonable proxy for involved fatherhood. I suppose you think you're cleverly undermining that reasonable assumption, but you've left the door open for the reasonable conclusion that... Well. Let's just say that absentee fathers are a significant correlation, with violence and criminality among their children.
 
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Getting a little personal there, but no and no. The child in question is now an adult and no longer needs parenting, co- or otherwise.
Ok, then did you when the child was a minor?

And I’m not getting personal, you volunteered the topic.
 
Which is already illegal in the UK, no matter what distribution method is used.
Because porn where the actors do give the impression that they are minors is already banned. As @Darat pointed out.
BBFC seeks to extend its monitoring role to include online pornography (The Guardian 24th June 2025):

At the inaugural meeting of the Independent Pornography Review taskforce – which brought together politicians, police and charities to discuss how to regulate harmful content on the internet – the BBFC’s president, Natasha Kaplinsky, said the organisation hoped to take on the task. “Legislation has existed for many years to protect the public from violent and abusive pornographic content offline, but online the law has not kept pace,” Kaplinsky said.
They just want to expand definitions to include more and more porn because they have been convinced by religious moralisation that porn is bad.
You keep making these type assertions without backing them up.
 
The importation of a bunch of young males from deeply misogynistic societies has certainly made things worse.
Deeply misogynistic societies like the USA? After all, you have twice elected a man to president who was friends with a paedophile, thinks it's okay to grab women by their pussies and has been convicted of sexual assault.
How many of these mothers were not married to the father of their children? How many of these mothers didn't have a father in their own home when they were growing up? How often does drug or alcohol abuse play a role in this abuse? These are just a few of the questions your source didn't even look at. Your source is essentially useless.
Poverty is often the backdrop to all of those things. Poverty both reduces choices available to people and puts them under increased chronic stress.
There are a ◊◊◊◊ ton of social pathologies which correlate with poverty, but are not poverty. Simply giving people more money may lift them out of poverty, but it won't fix those other social pathologies.

You're advocating programs that have been tried for decades and consistently failed to achieve their goals. Where's the evidence that they work?
They do work. Do they fix all social ills? No. Are they 100% effective? No. They just don't fit with an acausal free will delusion you and so many people have.


Good news. A government programme was rolled out on the basis of good evidence. It did what it set out to achieve. It almost certainly delivered benefits significantly greater than it cost. Even better, it created the greatest benefits for those most in need.

Bad news. The programme was first expanded and diluted and then had its funding slashed. It no longer exists in anything like its original form.

I am talking about Sure Start. Introduced in 1999, it was an early initiative of the last Labour government, designed to provide support to families of young children, with the aim of enhancing their life chances and development. In its initial incarnation, it set up 250 or so projects in areas with a very high concentration of children under five living in poverty. Each project had a remit to offer a range of services including outreach and home visits, support for play, learning and childcare, primary and community healthcare and support for children and parents with special needs.

The local projects were not told how these objectives should be met; considerable local autonomy was built in. Partially modelled on the US Head Start programme, it was introduced off the back of increasingly convincing evidence that high-quality interventions to support children and families living in poverty really could work in improving their life chances. Previous interventions had been shown to improve everything from the health of the children to their educational and labour market outcomes and to reduce the chances that they would end up in the criminal justice system.
This carefully designed, evidence-based initiative seems to have worked. As part of an equally carefully constructed evaluation, colleagues of mine at the Institute for Fiscal Studies previously have shown that it had a measurably positive long-term effect on health, particularly reducing hospitalisations among school-age children. Last week Pedro Carneiro, Sarah Cattan and Nick Ridpath showed that it also had a big positive effect on the language, communication, numeracy and social and emotional development of five-year-olds from poorer families. More importantly, these effects persisted into much-improved GCSE results at age 16. Further work will look at other long-term outcomes, including engagement with the criminal justice system. Even if no further effects are found, what we know already is enough to provide convincing evidence that the programme will effectively have paid for itself.

These findings are consistent with a slew of international evidence that high-quality, often resource-intensive interventions can be highly effective in improving the life chances of children growing up in poverty. It is great that we now have such good and robust evidence that our very own Sure Start programme was also highly effective. It is also a tragedy and a study in how good policy can be lost.

We can't afford such programmes, but we can afford more police and ever bigger prisons.

The acausal free will delusion is just so much easier on the brain. Reject anything that contradicts it.
 
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Deeply misogynistic societies like the USA? After all, you have twice elected a man to president who was friends with a paedophile, thinks it's okay to grab women by their pussies and has been convicted of sexual assault.

Poverty is often the backdrop to all of those things. Poverty both reduces choices available to people and puts them under increased chronic stress.

They do work. Do they fix all social ills? No. Are they 100% effective? No. They just don't fit with an acausal free will delusion you and so many people have.




We can't afford such programmes, but we can afford more police and ever bigger prisons.

The acausal free will delusion is just so much easier on the brain. Reject anything that contradicts it.
Could you clarify 'acausal free will'?
 
You have no idea, do you?

Leave Bill Clinton out of this.

No, it really isn't. Your aforementioned paedo didn't do that stuff because he was deprived.
Ah, so unless poverty can explain 100% of human behaviour it cannot be a causal factor? That it is strongly correlated with such behaviour and programmes that alleviate the effects of poverty reduce those behaviours is just luck?

As expected, when successful programmes such as Sure Start are presented to you you simply ignore them because they don't fit with the acausal free will delusion.

While you probably don't beat and rape women yourself, the policies of the people you vote for sets up an environment to create ever more men who will.
 
Could you clarify 'acausal free will'?
From typing 'acausal free will' into Google:

Acausal free will is the philosophical concept that a free choice is not determined by prior events (acausality) and is not an effect of a preceding cause. This view posits that our choices can originate from a unique capacity for self-creation or agency, rather than being predictable outcomes of the universe's chain of cause and effect. This is in contrast to deterministic views, where every event, including our decisions, is the inevitable result of antecedent causes.

As stated before, my personal philosophy is indeterminism, since to the best of our knowledge some level of randomness does appear to be baked into our universe.
 
From typing 'acausal free will' into Google:



As stated before, my personal philosophy is indeterminism, since to the best of our knowledge some level of randomness does appear to be baked into our universe.
Acausal free will is in line with indeterminism, but you describe it (acausal free will) as a delusion. Can you explain please?

ETA: Your overall philosophy is indeterminism but you see determinism in the case of poverty (and its predictive effects of negative outcomes)?
 
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Acausal free will is in line with indeterminism, but you describe it (acausal free will) as a delusion. Can you explain please?
Acausal free will is not in line with indeterminism. Indeterminism is basically because (as far as we know) there will always be a limit on our knowledge of the state of the universe, not that anything in it at a human level of significance is acausal. E.g., acausal describes the decay of radioactive particles, not the functioning of human brain cells.

Applying acausality at the human level is attractive because it allows us to blame people and deny all responsibility for our part in the system, when the reality is that what we do next is determined by what happened before plus a bit of noise. We can say people are responsible for something, but not blame them; what else could they have done other than what they did?
ETA: Your overall philosophy is indeterminism but you see determinism in the case of poverty (and its predictive effects of negative outcomes)?
Yes. Changing the environment shifts the mean. Some variance from the noise is still there, but the ratio of good to bad outcomes improves.
 
You keep making these type assertions without backing them up.
ALL opposition to legal porn is based in religious moralisation.

And I’m not getting personal, you volunteered the topic.
To my significant regret now that I realise that I'm to be subject to the Spanish Inquisition.
My family situation is not the subject of this thread. I did not marry the mother of my child. That is all that I'm going to say.
 

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