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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Ziggurat said:
I presume he was, but the question never came up at trial, which is the easy way to tell that it wasn't legally relevant.

He wasn't charged because he was breathing. He was charged and convicted because he was praying. That was very much part of the trial. It was essential to the prosecution that they establish that, and they did. Why you would think breathing and praying are somehow equivalent or worth comparing escapes me.
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"was he also breathing?"
 
Thermal said:
Especially when the geographical adjustment is based solely on protecting a group of women from being caused undue distress.

Interestingly, a couple of these same posters claim to be staunch defenders of women on another thread. I guess they want to defend women, but also humiliate them when the mood strikes?
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Why does silent prayer on a sidewalk cause women stress?
 
Carrot Flower King said:
There has certainly been a bigoted, harassing, intimidatory, just short of outright violence, element to these protests over the years.

Which is why various steps have been taken.

Have your say; just do it somewhere else.
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That doesn't fly without our constitution.

As long as your are peaceful, not violating volume regulations, not cursing, accusing people of murder, you have the right to be on the sidewalk and say "dont abort".

I guess we care about freedom more than feewings.
 
zooterkin said:
What you cannot do is protest within 150m of an abortion clinic. Since we don't yet have psychic police, someone could quite happily pray silently and no-one else would be any the wiser. That clearly isn't what happened, the prayer wasn't simply silent, it was made obvious and ostentatious, and the person didn't move on when asked to do so.
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Peaceful protest, at a reasonable volume, without name calling or attacks or any other language that a reasonable person would see as harassment, , should be allowed 1' from an abortion clinic ON a public sidewalk.
 
Mojo said:
Why does it need to be done outside abortion clinics where it looks like harassment?

Have these people never read the Bible?
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Doesn't need to be anywhere.

But its on a public sidewalk, which means its public property, which means you have the right to peacefully protest whatever topic you like.
 
Mojo said:
No, but it needs to be balanced against other people's freedom, unless you're Fintan Stack.
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Yes, you cannot impede people's freedom of movement or freedom to conduct business or seek medical care.

If you get in the way of that you should be busted and hauled off to jail.


But there is no "freedom to be free of unhurt feewings"
 
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