General Israel/Palestine discussion thread - Part 4

They come right out and say that they want to disrupt the blockade, and open a logistical corridor into Gaza outside of Israeli control.
There are many logistic corridors outside of Israeli control, most will not allow uncertified arms to be transported. Certainly no European countries would export arms to Gaza. I suspect (almost) no Mediterranean countries would. Syria has been so damaged by recurrent israeli attacks that the government could not control exports, Libya since Western attacks also has no functional government, but those are the only two risky countries for arms exports.
 
Doesn't mean they want to get weapons to Hamas. You simply made up that part.
I never said that part. But I wouldn't be surprised if some of them do want to get weapons to Hamas, and have joined this cause with that hope in mind.

Meanwhile, it remains true that they want to break the Israeli arms embargo on Hamas. At that point it doesn't matter if they want to get weapons to Hamas.
 
I never said that part. But I wouldn't be surprised if some of them do want to get weapons to Hamas, and have joined this cause with that hope in mind.

Meanwhile, it remains true that they want to break the Israeli arms embargo on Hamas....
Prove it.
 
So, is it two-weeks-time again?
Yes, Israel has gone down this path many times. Hamas makes a couple of conciliatory statements but makes absolutely no comment about disarming and taking no part on the government of Gaza. And they get praised by the naive.

They are not serious about peace plans and never have been.
 
Nobody from the flotilla was raped.
The flotilla also carried a very small quantity of cargo for Gaza. (42 vessels with an overall amount less than one-tenth of a single aid truck).
The flotilla's aim is to cause the IDF to invest resources on the high seas.
And to inflame the streets of countries worldwide, in support of HAMAS.
Their overall view was that Oct7th was a 'glorious day' for Palestinians.

Israel knows who it's dealing with.
 
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Yes, let's keep our eyes on Gaza and make sure the Israeli hostages are released.
Free the Hostages.

Greta will become old and grey, and Gaza will still be Gaza.
 
Yes, let's keep our eyes on Gaza and make sure the Israeli hostages are released.
Free the Hostages.

Greta will become old and grey, and Gaza will still be Gaza.
Greta may live longer than the Jewish State, based on how things are going.

No matter, the Jewish People are eternal.
 
Id still love for @theprestige to provide some direct evidence that the flotilla groups specifically had as one of their goals to allow weapons to flow to Hamas in Gaza.
 
There are many logistic corridors outside of Israeli control, most will not allow uncertified arms to be transported. Certainly no European countries would export arms to Gaza. I suspect (almost) no Mediterranean countries would. Syria has been so damaged by recurrent israeli attacks that the government could not control exports, Libya since Western attacks also has no functional government, but those are the only two risky countries for arms exports.
You're not making any sense. Israel doesn't control the starting point of any logistic corridor. It only controls the endpoints in Gaza, for these potential supply routes. If Israel lifts the blockade of the Gazan coast, there will be an uncontrolled supply route to Gaza.

You're also not making any sense about who's arming Hamas. Very few countries have ever openly armed Hamas. And yet Hamas continues to receive arms and other support from outside of Gaza. You pretend nobody is covertly trying to support Hamas. Why?
 
Id still love for @theprestige to provide some direct evidence that the flotilla groups specifically had as one of their goals to allow weapons to flow to Hamas in Gaza.
I never said it was one of their stated goals. I'm saying it's an inevitable consequence of breaking the blockade, and that they have said explicitly that their goal is to break the blockade. Even if they don't want to supply arms to Hamas, it's true that Hamas will be supplied with arms if the blockade is broken, whether by people in this flotilla, or others exploiting the situation. At best the flotilla is being irresponsible, for trying to break the blockade, without making any provision for what happens after.
 
Way to blame the victim there, timi.
The blockade runners aren't victims. They're informed, intentional participants in an armed conflict. They are not victimized, by being intercepted, detained, investigated, and deported. Those are all perfectly normal things to happen to someone who chooses to run a blockade. Greta isn't a metaphorical rape victim in this, she's a metaphorical porn star.
 
Prove it.
It's their mission statement.

"In August and September 2025, boats of all sizes will set sail from ports around the world, converging toward Gaza to open a humanitarian corridor by sea."


They say "humanitarian corridor", but a corridor is a corridor. They can't break the blockade only for civilians, and not for Hamas as well. They're gaslighting you.
 

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