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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Carrot Flower King said:
Bullied bairns made up a significant chunk of my caseload over the years, whether doing OD assessment or generic community CAMHS. And most of that bullying was verbal.
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Kids bullying can drive their victim to suicide. Women can be verbally beaten into submission in an abusive relationship. Religious leaders can convince you to kill.

Words are the most powerful force in the world. That 'pen is mightier than the sword' jazz didn't come out of nowhere.
 
Thermal said:
Kids bullying can drive their victim to suicide. Women can be verbally beaten into submission in an abusive relationship. Religious leaders can convince you to kill.

Words are the most powerful force in the world. That 'pen is mightier than the sword' jazz didn't come out of nowhere.
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But we have it from the renowned authority, our very own Hercules56, that this amounts to nothing more than mere teasing, and it is the fault of the abuse sufferers for letting it bother them.

I can't help but think that many of the abusers rationalize their actions in a similar manner.
 
Andy_Ross said:
The Sweeney, Midsomer Murders, The Bill, Line of Duty, Morse ...
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Midsomer is actually vastly more accurate in many ways to most US cop series. John Nettles was wearing a proper sterile suit, booties, mask and gloves. Unlike, say, CSI.
 
catsmate said:
Midsomer is actually vastly more accurate in many ways to most US cop series. John Nettles was wearing a proper sterile suit, booties, mask and gloves. Unlike, say, CSI.
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That actually drives me nuts on cop shows. The cops will walk into a room, find a dead body, and start going through its pockets and taking 'clues' away with them. I mean, contamination, guys. It's not some out in left field concept.
 
Thermal said:
That actually drives me nuts on cop shows. The cops will walk into a room, find a dead body, and start going through its pockets and taking 'clues' away with them. I mean, contamination, guys. It's not some out in left field concept.
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Indeed.
 
Thermal said:
That actually drives me nuts on cop shows. The cops will walk into a room, find a dead body, and start going through its pockets and taking 'clues' away with them. I mean, contamination, guys. It's not some out in left field concept.
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That does happen in real life, there is plenty of body-camera footage of USA police doing that. I presume it's because there are so many small police forces that don't have crime scene investigators/forensic staff?
 
Darat said:
That does happen in real life, there is plenty of body-camera footage of USA police doing that. I presume it's because there are so many small police forces that don't have crime scene investigators/forensic staff?
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In my neck of the woods, securing the scene is priority one. The last time they found a body (about two blocks from my front door), they shut down the full block around it till county got in there. Last winter we had a family member die from natural causes in a nearby town, and police wouldn't touch him beyond checking for vitals till the ME gave the thumbs up over the phone that it appeared to be natural causes, no autopsy or investigation needed.

They might be more invasive if they have reason to believe a killer is loose and still nearby, and time would be of the essence? I dunno.

Eta: a lot of the smaller municipalities do rely on the county forces for forensic investigation, the bigger towns having their own teams. The police just handle the criminal end.
 
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Hercules56 said:
We should not be arresting people for hurting feelings.
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There you go again! We're not talking about "hurting feelings". We're talking about marginalising whole groups of people. We're talking about referring to people as though they are less than human. We're talking about hate speech. "Hurting feelings" doesn't even begin to approach what we're trying to get you to understand.
 
arthwollipot said:
There you go again! We're not talking about "hurting feelings". We're talking about marginalising whole groups of people. We're talking about referring to people as though they are less than human. We're talking about hate speech. "Hurting feelings" doesn't even begin to approach what we're trying to get you to understand.
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So you think we should put people in prison for racist hate speech, speech that marginalizes groups and dehumanizing speech?
 
Hercules56 said:
So you think we should put people in prison for racist hate speech, speech that marginalizes groups and dehumanizing speech?
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I believe that such people have the right to a fair trial when they break the law, according to Articles 9, 10, and 11 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Unrestricted hate speech violates Articles 3, 5, 6, 12, arguably 14, 19, and probably 27 of the same Declaration.
 
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