Predict Trump's first revenge prosecutions!

Segnosaur said:
Well, Comey was indicted, so it did get past the grand jury.

From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/james-comey-charged-1.7644147
Former FBI director James Comey was indicted on criminal charges Thursday... Comey was charged with making a false statement and obstruction in a criminal case... The charge of making a false statement stems from testimony Comey made to Congress five years ago. Republicans have accused both Comey and his successor, Andrew McCabe, of lying about leaks to the media.

Of course they still have to convince the jury at trial, and also hope that they don't run into a judge who thinks various Trump statements have biased the jury.
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Well, I was wrong and they were able to secure an indictment. I figured they would end up like Pirro.
Segnosaur said:
I am going to admit.... I have mixed feelings on this. I recognize that it is a bogus/revenge prosecution, and for that reason I hope the Trump administration loses. On the other hand, I have very little sympathy for Comey, since I feel that his "october surprise" (announcing a new investigation into Clinton's emails) in the 2016 election is one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in. (Without that announcement, maybe Democrats get a slightly higher turnout, maybe they win a few of the swing states that they lost, and Trump goes down as another loser candidate rather than the guy who is helping destroy America.)
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I have zero mixed feelings about this. While the October surprise was ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, this indictment or worse a conviction, will make Trump and the DOJ ramp up their use of the courts to attack political opponents. His vengeance will now have a more vindictive turn as opposed to just railing on social media.
 
Indeed it's tempting to gloat over Comey having finally been rewarded for handing Donald Trump his 2016 electoral win. Comey famously refused to swear fealty to the person of Mr. Trump, which is a sin almost as grave as stopping the President's escalator.

But Pres. Trump vows, "There will be others." It's clear this really is only the first in what he envisions to be a string of revenge prosecutions. In MAGA terms, they're framed as just desserts against Trump's enemies who started it by prosecuting Trump and his allies in the first place. Thus for them this is a corrective action. Trump's DOJ is prosecuting and removing all those "corrupt" people who tried to punish him and punish those who were loyal to him. This is not good.

In my view, the only hope is that these will be inept prosecutions. Most of the competent prosecutors seem to have left, or are leaving, the DOJ and you have only inexperienced flunkies as U.S. Attorneys and AUSAs. And as we've noted elsewhere, DOJ officials love to shoot their mouths off on social media, which is generally something judges don't like.
 
Disbelief said:
I am going to admit.... I have mixed feelings on this. I recognize that it is a bogus/revenge prosecution, and for that reason I hope the Trump administration loses. On the other hand, I have very little sympathy for Comey, since I feel that his "october surprise" (announcing a new investigation into Clinton's emails) in the 2016 election is one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in.
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Well, I was wrong and they were able to secure an indictment. I figured they would end up like Pirro.

I have zero mixed feelings about this. While the October surprise was ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, this indictment or worse a conviction, will make Trump and the DOJ ramp up their use of the courts to attack political opponents. His vengeance will now have a more vindictive turn as opposed to just railing on social media.
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You are of course assuming that the Trump bootlickers he has installed as his personal gestapo enforcers at the DOJ are actually able to think and act rationally. Even if they had failed to secure an indictment against Comey, they still might have continued their attempts to "hurt all Trump opponents" even if they failed time and time again.
 
JayUtah said:
In my view, the only hope is that these will be inept prosecutions. Most of the competent prosecutors seem to have left, or are leaving, the DOJ and you have only inexperienced flunkies as U.S. Attorneys and AUSAs. And as we've noted elsewhere, DOJ officials love to shoot their mouths off on social media, which is generally something judges don't like.
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There is also the fact that even if they have someone competent prosecutors in the case, a lot of these trials are gong to take place in Washington DC (since that's where "the crimes" were supposedly to have occurred), and Washington is not exactly Trump-friendly at this time.
 
Segnosaur said:
You are of course assuming that the Trump bootlickers he has installed as his personal gestapo enforcers at the DOJ are actually able to think and act rationally. Even if they had failed to secure an indictment against Comey, they still might have continued their attempts to "hurt all Trump opponents" even if they failed time and time again.
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I know they will keep going, but every "win" like this stokes the flames imo. It also starts leading to public perception that maybe Trump is right.
 
Segnosaur said:
There is also the fact that even if they have someone competent prosecutors in the case, a lot of these trials are gong to take place in Washington DC (since that's where "the crimes" were supposedly to have occurred), and Washington is not exactly Trump-friendly at this time.
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Comey was charged in the Eastern District of Virginia. That’s a much more conservative jury pool. The upside is that EDVa has a reputation for not tolerating shenanigans.

ETA: The action was filed in the Eastern District of Virginia because Comey appeared virtually from his home in Virginia for the congressional testimony he is accused of lying in. It was filed just days before the statute of limitations expired on it. The actual testimony was back before Sen. Chuck Grassley regarding whether Comey authorized leaks of the investigation into Russia's involvement in the 2016 election. He claims he did not, but Andrew McCabe claims he leaked information that Comey later blessed. All that has long passed the statute of limitations. But in 2020, Comey appeared before Sen. Ted Cruz who recapped the questioning. Comey reiterated his claim not to have authorized McCabe to leak information.
 
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Segnosaur said:
There is also the fact that even if they have someone competent prosecutors in the case...
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Not likely.

Lindsey Halligan is the "Lindsey" mentioned in the infamous Truth Social post from Pres. Trump that was probably meant as a DM to A.G. Pam Bondi. Halligan has no previous prosecutorial experience and has been on the job a grand total of a week. She replaces—as U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia—Erik Siebert, a highly experienced and Senate-confirmed prosecutor who resigned rather than be fired by Donald Trump. Siebert refused to move forward the prosecution of Letitia James on the grounds that no evidence of wrongdoing in a mortgage application actually materialized. (Fannie Mae, the U.S. mortgage lending guarantor, is in Virginia.) And Siebert refused to sign off on the prosecution of Comey because all the evidence is literally what happened in a room between two men, Comey and Andrew McCabe. These are cases that experienced prosecutors considered D.O.A. So Trump has brought in someone whose only qualification for the job is the willingness to put her name all of Trump's admitted revenge prosecutions. As I mentioned, this particular district moves fast and requires a lot of competence from attorneys who practice there. I'm popping some popcorn for this one.
 
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Here we go again.


New York Attorney General Letitia James was indicted Thursday in Alexandria, Virginia
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New York Attorney General Letitia James was indicted Thursday in Alexandria, Virginia, as President Donald Trump’s Justice Department continues to pursue charges against his political opponents, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

James has been under investigation since May over a 2023 mortgage she took out to help her niece buy a home in Norfolk, Virginia.

The charges come as Trump continues to call for his enemies to be prosecuted in court. Former FBI Director James Comey pleaded not guilty Wednesday to allegedly making a false statement in a congressional proceeding. The Justice Department has also opened investigation into former Trump national security adviser John Bolton, California Democratic Sen. Adam Schiff, and others.
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It's not gonna stop, either.
 
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