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Avoiding Win 11 and staying with 10

novaphile said:
Probably a big box.

I can remember doing an NT install with a huge set of 1.44Mb discs.

I think it may have been the last version that could be installed from floppies.

(I just had a peek online and NT 3.51 was on 35 3 1/2 inch discs.)
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That's it. The basic kit was a very large box with one CD, two 5.25" and 35 3.5" disks, plus a very thick manual. You could send off for the full set of (IIRR 41) 5.25" disks, which I did years later. They came in another box.
I don't think my Minix installation disks work anymore.
 
Andy_Ross said:
I remember installing some NT workstations.

As for disks, I remember the last version of Microsoft Office on the MAC that came on floppy disks was on 35 disks.
The faulty one was always one in the 20s.
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Back in the early 90s I read a joke "Read me from hell" file. Gems included "our disks meet all industry standards for tensile strength and are certified good as new"
"Our helpline is available 9-930 Hong Kong time Monday.if you find a way to exit the install program without crashing please call the helpline. Charges will be waived"
 
I got an email from Intuit saying new Turbotax packages will no longer run on Win 10 or older operating systems due to security concerns. You must use Win 11.
 
ZiprHead said:
I got an email from Intuit saying new Turbotax packages will no longer run on Win 10 or older operating systems due to security concerns. You must use Win 11.
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I used to use the Turbotax requirements as a cue of when to update Windows, but it got silly and Turbotax became less useful, so I stopped. I suspect it's either laziness or skullduggery anyway. The first copy of Turbotax I got, that ran on my 286, came on a single 5 1/4 inch floppy disk! The whole thing. It worked a treat.
 
Some powershell to debloat win 11. Via NixCraft so probably okay but my powershell is poor. FWIW
github.com

GitHub - Raphire/Win11Debloat: A simple, easy to use PowerShell script to remove pre-installed apps, disable telemetry, as well as perform various other changes to customize, declutter and improve your Windows experience. Win11Debloat works for both

A simple, easy to use PowerShell script to remove pre-installed apps, disable telemetry, as well as perform various other changes to customize, declutter and improve your Windows experience. Win11D...
github.com github.com
 
I finally got the option in windows updates to enrol in the Win10 extended support. So I clicked
"Looks like you are not connected to the internet"
Yes I ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ am. What could this mean. IP 6 is off, so I'll switch it on. Various other tweaks.
"You are in a maze of twisty" "Looks like you are not connected to the internet"
Helpful message MS. Event viewer as much use as a cardboard frying pan.
 
Wudang said:
I finally got the option in windows updates to enrol in the Win10 extended support. So I clicked
"Looks like you are not connected to the internet"
Yes I ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ am. What could this mean. IP 6 is off, so I'll switch it on. Various other tweaks.
"You are in a maze of twisty" "Looks like you are not connected to the internet"
Helpful message MS. Event viewer as much use as a cardboard frying pan.
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Sounds like a service isn't turned on or something. Do you get the error message immediately or does it try to connect? Sometimes it will do that if the version you have (pro, home, enterprise, etc.) isn't compatible with the extended support.
 
The only service I've seen mentioned in stuff I've found is the Connected User Experience and Telemetry service which is running. The enrol option shouldn't show unless I'm eligible IIRC and I'm Win 10 Pro 22H2

eta: 5 minutes alone with the guy who wrote the enrol code. Please. Throw an exception, give a "more" button with TCP/IP or whatever error codes. Something.
 
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Wudang said:
The only service I've seen mentioned in stuff I've found is the Connected User Experience and Telemetry service which is running. The enrol option shouldn't show unless I'm eligible IIRC and I'm Win 10 Pro 22H2

eta: 5 minutes alone with the guy who wrote the enrol code. Please. Throw an exception, give a "more" button with TCP/IP or whatever error codes. Something.
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I was thinking of the updater service. It's called WSUS on servers, but I'm blanking on what it would be called for PCs. You're right in that the enroll option shouldn't show if you aren't eligible but...this is Microsoft lol.
 
Dabop said:
LOL- I found this on one of my old HDD's- taken in 2019...View attachment 63619
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I have a box of project "archives" dating back to '96. At the end of each project I'd copy everything onto a HDD and then remove it from the PC, wrap it in an anti-static bag, tape and label the bag, wrap it I two layers of bubble wrap, tape and wrap that and take the package home.
Dozens of the things.
 
catsmate said:
I have a box of project "archives" dating back to '96. At the end of each project I'd copy everything onto a HDD and then remove it from the PC, wrap it in an anti-static bag, tape and label the bag, wrap it I two layers of bubble wrap, tape and wrap that and take the package home.
Dozens of the things.
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That MSDOS disk would be from one of my 286 or 386 computers, so between 85 and 90/91 most likely as I bought my first Zipdrive in 96, and I had been using the 3/5" hard floppies for several years by then... and I had been using HDD for a while by the time I had the 3.5" drive- only my very first couple of IBM compats had only dual disk drives and no hard drive...
 
Wudang said:
I finally got the option in windows updates to enrol in the Win10 extended support. So I clicked
"Looks like you are not connected to the internet"
Yes I ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ am. What could this mean. IP 6 is off, so I'll switch it on. Various other tweaks.
"You are in a maze of twisty" "Looks like you are not connected to the internet"
Helpful message MS. Event viewer as much use as a cardboard frying pan.
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Wudang said:
And after it failing after me running wireshark, turning it off and on again many times, still failing - it just decides to work. I wonder if the server(s) were just overloaded or just MS fuckwittery.
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How many steps did it take to enrol in the Windows 10 Extended Security Updates?

I've noticed I now have that option to enrol, but haven't yet started the process in fear of a time sink.
 
Going back to the thread title, it occurs to me you're already screwed. Win 10 is already so far up Microsoft's ass that you really have no recourse. Either you submit, or you go all the way off the reservation.

Honestly, if you've stuck with Microsoft all the way through to Win 10, you're already all the way in. The time to drag your feet was 20 years ago. Don't come crying, now that your preferred monopoly is doing to you the same thing it's been doing to you for the last decade and more.
 
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Dabop said:
That MSDOS disk would be from one of my 286 or 386 computers, so between 85 and 90/91 most likely as I bought my first Zipdrive in 96, and I had been using the 3/5" hard floppies for several years by then... and I had been using HDD for a while by the time I had the 3.5" drive- only my very first couple of IBM compats had only dual disk drives and no hard drive...
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Ah Zip. I still have a few drives, and Jaz drives, around. Plus PD and MO.
 
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