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Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed

d4m10n said:
According to his mother, he was open about it to his parents, which was evidently off-putting to his father who has "very different political views" than his son.
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Does it occur to you that she may be disavowing her son in order to portray him as an outcast while the rest of the family are good little MAGA loyalists? I mean, with MAGA types being the vengeful scum they are, why wouldn't she do that?
 
smartcooky said:
Does it occur to you that she may be disavowing her son in order to portray him as an outcast while the rest of the family are good little MAGA loyalists?
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No, it does not occur.

Parents turning their murderous child into the authorities isn't them being "good little MAGA loyalists" it's just basic decency and respect for rule of law.

Probably takes a certain amount of partisan internet poisoning to presume otherwise.
 
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d4m10n said:
No, it does not occur.

Parents turning their murderous child into the authorities isn't them being "good little MAGA loyalists" it's just basic decency and respect for rule of law.

Probably takes a certain amount of partisan internet poisoning to presume otherwise.
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Coincidentally, my wife and I were discussing parental obligations the other night. The kids know that if they killed somebody, they can call mom and she will fight to make sure they are treated fairly and have the best defense available. Call dad and he'll dispose of the bodies.
 
Thermal said:
Coincidentally, my wife and I were discussing parental obligations the other night. The
kids know that if they killed
somebody , they can call mom and she will fight to make sure they are treated fairly and have the best defense available. Call dad and he'll dispose of the
bodies.
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Unintentional grammar? ;)
 
d4m10n said:
The text on the casings, but also the subtext of copying Mangione by putting short messages on the casings.
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Assumes he was copying Mangione and not some other killer, and even if correct Mangione was in some respects very conservative.
d4m10n said:
Throwing a grenade to a fascist isn't all that obscure, the only wrinkle there is about Helldivers lore.
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Yes, but the term 'fascist' has been used (both correctly and incorrectly) by both left and right to describe their opposition,
d4m10n said:
What person radicalized by the far-right is going to complain about Charlie Kirk being too hateful?
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I don't know if he was radicalized by the far right. I'm fairly certain he wasn't radicalized by the far left. In any event, we don't know specifically what 'hate' Robinson is talking about. Even if he is talking about hatred towards transgender people, that is not an exclusive gripe of the far left, since the far-right Groypers (from what I've read) are not uncommonly in relationships with a trans partner.
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Groyper POV is that TPUSA isn't nearly hateful enough to the people they hate in common.
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If they all hate trans so much, why are some of them in relationships with trans partners? One possibility is alluded in the study I quoted earlier, that they are misogynists who want to control women, and find trans women more submissive. And maybe they hate themselves even more...as incels commonly do...who knows?
d4m10n said:
I'm not all that sure, but everything arguably political from this guy is left-coded so far, especially the part where he killed a prominent propagandist for the right.
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Again, the 'Groyper Wars" indicate that some folks on the far right hated Kirk nearly as much or more so than lefties.
You want to put people in neat little boxes, but unless you claim people like Catilyn Jenner and Peter Thiel are rabid lefties, you are missing the big picture.
 
d4m10n said:
No, it does not occur.
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How terribly naive.

d4m10n said:
Parents turning their murderous child into the authorities isn't them being "good little MAGA loyalists" it's just basic decency and respect for rule of law.
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Actually, they convinced him to turn himself in.

It's also preempting someone else doing so. Robinson didn't exactly make himself hard to find. Anyone who knew him would have recognised him from that photo of him walking up the stairs.

d4m10n said:
Probably takes a certain amount of partisan internet poisoning to presume otherwise.
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No, all it takes is to be a keen observer of human behaviour.
 
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