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Trump's Second Term

dudalb said:
WHy does the idea of armed resistende to tyranny upset you so much?
It's a last resort, but there are times when Last Resorts are reached.
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Well, the blame for a situation seriously considering the requirement of a last resort rests squarely on those who screamed "communist take over" whenever the need for social safety nets and control of corporate greed rose. I guess, sitting back and thinking, "I will always have my gun when things turn to ◊◊◊◊," results in people wishing things turn to ◊◊◊◊ so they can use the guns.
 
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Pixel42 said:
Outrageous flattery seems to be the most effective way of ensuring he does the least possible amount of damage to our country.
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I am usually against royalty, and think that it is doubtful if they earn as much to the country as they cost. Denmark is of course different from the UK, but still: The king's treatment of Trump with no stops pulled may be an example where royalty is in fact worth every penny.

If Denmark gets trouble with Trump, maybe the Danish king should invite him to receive the Order of the Elephant?
 
steenkh said:
Are there anybody who thinks that Melania's choice of hats is an example of good taste?
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It's a Branding Thing - she is probably hoping for a Banksy or something else that will make her iconic - anything to be associated with anything but the sexual predator fascist who is the only reason why anyone knows of her at all.
 
dudalb said:
WHy does the idea of armed resistende to tyranny upset you so much?
It's a last resort, but there are times when Last Resorts are reached.
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So are you going to regard the murder of the Insurance exec first shots fired? How about an attempt on one of the cabinet? That's how armed revolutions usually start, you know?
 
Pixel42 said:
Trump is the democratically elected leader of a country which has long been the UK's ally. There's nothing the UK could have legitimately done to prevent that, and nothing it can legitimately do to change it. All other countries can do is cope with the situation as best they can, and hope the US electorate eventually come to their senses. Outrageous flattery seems to be the most effective way of ensuring he does the least possible amount of damage to our country. There's nothing we can do about the damage he is doing to yours.
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I mean the idea that the government of other countries are responsible for cleaning up America's overflowing cesspit is really bizarre.
 
shemp said:
Not insane and demented at all.

taskandpurpose.com

Trump says US wants Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan back

No further information was available about how or why the U.S. government would want to reopen Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan.
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Has Germany considered reclaiming all those giant submarine pens it built on the Atlantic coast? Those countries just got that stuff for free. Come to think of it, the lucrative tourist trade in Normandy might make it well worthwhile reclaiming all those coastal defences too.

Italian bid to reclaim Hadrian's wall in 3, 2, 1...
 
Susheel said:
Pixel42 said:
Trump is the democratically elected leader of a country which has long been the UK's ally. There's nothing the UK could have legitimately done to prevent that, and nothing it can legitimately do to change it. All other countries can do is cope with the situation as best they can, and hope the US electorate eventually come to their senses. Outrageous flattery seems to be the most effective way of ensuring he does the least possible amount of damage to our country. There's nothing we can do about the damage he is doing to yours.
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I mean the idea that the government of other countries are responsible for cleaning up America's overflowing cesspit is really bizarre.
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Did you misinterpret Pixel42's comment about "our" country as "does the least possible amount of damage to the US"? Pixel42 is British, so the comment means "least possible amount of damage to the UK."
 
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Susheel said:
Nobody is defending it.In fact there are a lot of protests in the UK over this. And not just about Trump. Starter has generally been a disappointment, particularly with regard to his economic policies and also his kowtowing to Israel. There are many who now feel that Corbyn was unnecessarily hounded out by an Israel lobby that was quick to label him an ant-semite just for raising concerns about Israel's apartheid
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You are funny.
 
Pixel42 said:
Trump is the democratically elected leader of a country which has long been the UK's ally. There's nothing the UK could have legitimately done to prevent that, and nothing it can legitimately do to change it. All other countries can do is cope with the situation as best they can, and hope the US electorate eventually come to their senses. Outrageous flattery seems to be the most effective way of ensuring he does the least possible amount of damage to our country. There's nothing we can do about the damage he is doing to yours.
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This.

Don't take your shame and frustration at your leader out on his victims.
 
Blue Mountain said:
Did you misinterpret Pixel42's comment about "our" country as "does the least possible amount of damage to the US"? Pixel42 is British, so the comment means "least possible amount of damage to the UK."
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No I was agreeing with Pixel42 and calling out the accusation by our resident potential American revolutionary who seems to think that other countries have to bear the cross of their stupidity.
 
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EHocking said:
Except in this case, the UK is rolling over and exposing its vulnerable (yellow) belly in order to appease the bigger dog.
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What was there to gain from antagonising Trump? Would it help other nations who have been slapped with bigger tariffs than us? If you have a suggestion for what would have been a smarter play or more noble-minded stand for the UK to take, the floor is yours.
 
Well, this one is much later than usual. I try to maintain the list daily, but often end up going down a rabbit hole or getting caught in analysis paralysis ("should this go on the list or not?") This evening I finally got a list that's complete enough to post.

As of the close of the day on September 17, my positive/negative score on the Trump administration stands at -1,304.

17 September 2025
-1: Trump declares Antifa, which is a movement and an idea, a “terrorist organization” [624]
-1: JD Vance says univeristies sould be punished for exercising First Amendment rights [625]
-1: Former CDC head says she was instructed not to speak with US Senators [626]
-1: Apparently at the administration’s request, ABC cancels Jimmy Kimmel’s program over remarks Kimmel made about Charlie Kirk
-1: Gavin Newsom calls out five lies in a Trump social media post [627]
-1: Headline: Mississippi declares infant deaths emergency as CDC program that could have helped is halted (Guardian)
-1: Headline: Karoline Leavitt posts that Utah earthquake was ‘divine sign’ God was angry with Kirk assassination (Irish Times)
-1: FCC Chairman Brendan Carr says, in effect, he gets to decide what is in the public interest [628]

References:

624. Trump: “I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

625. Vance: “We have a first amendment in this country…. If you are a university professor who benefits from American tax dollars, you should not be celebrating this “[’this’ is not identified.]* If you are, maybe your university should face a loss of funding.”

626. Kaine: Were you instructed by the secretary of HHS to not speak to senators?
Monarez: I was instructed to not speak directly to senators
Kaine: So Senate-confirmed CDC director instructed not to speak to senators

627. Post on Bluesky

628. FCC Chairman Brendan Carr: “We at the FCC will enforce the public interest obligation. If there are broadcasters that do not like it, they can turn their license into the FCC.”

16 September 2025
+1: In an unusual display of self-awareness, Trump says, “Smart people don’t like me...”
-1: Headline: DOJ Quietly Deletes Study on Politics of Domestic Terrorists (New Republic)
-1: Pam Bondi forgets the US has a first amendment that protects even hate speech
-1: Trump says he will withhold money from New York because Governor Hochul has endorsed “communist” Mamdani for Mayor. [617]
-1: Trump attacks reporters for “having hate in your heart” [618]
-1: Trump again thinks he’s smarter than the people who run the Federal Reserve [619]
-1: Trump complains that due process requires millions of court trials [620]
-1: Marco Rubio says that Brazil’s former president for treason shows that “rule of law is breaking down in Brazil” [621]
-1: FBI director Kash Patel says there’s no evidence Jeffrey trafficked children and women [622]
-1: Rand Paul forgets the United States has a First amendment [623]

References:

617. Trump: “Governor Kathy Hochul of New York has Endorsed the “Liddle’ Communist,” Zohran Mamdani, running for Mayor of New York. This is a rather shocking development, and a very bad one for New York City. How can such a thing happen? Washington will be watching this situation very closely. No reason to be sending good money after bad! President DJT”

618. Jon Karl: “What do you make of Pam Bondi saying she’s gonna go after hate speech? A lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech”
Trump: “We’ll probably go after people like you because you treat me so unfairly. You have a lot of hate in your hate. Maybe they’ll have to go after you. ABC paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech.”

619. Reporter: “Do you believe the federal reserve is an independent body?”
Trump: “It should be… but I think they should listen to smart people like me.”

620. NBC News: “The 5th Amendment says everyone deserves due process.”
Trump: “It might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or two million or three million trials.”

621. Rubio on Xitter: “With the sentencing of former Brazilian President Bolsonaro, it is clear that the rule of law is breaking down in Brazil.”

622 FBI Director Kash (seen on Bluesky): “There is no credible evidence in the ‘Epstein files’ that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked women to others”

623. Rand Paul: “People say, ‘Oh, people have a right to say things.’ Well, actually they don’t necessarily have a right to say things. Many people have in their contract what we call a morals clause ... I think it is time for this to be a crackdown on people.”

15 September 2025
-2: Headline: US destroys alleged Venezuelan drug boat, killing three (BBC; -2 for illegal)
-1: Trump says he will send troops to Chicago if it wants them or not [607]
-1: Trump say he’s panning to send troop to Baltimore [608]
-1: Trump claims the department of Justice was weaponized against him and other Biden opponents [609]
-1: Trump falsely says all of the problems in the USA are the fault of people on the left [610]
-1: Trump claims drugs caused 300 million deaths last year (number is probably the number of users) [611]
-1: Two months on and Trump has already forgotten about the murder of Melissa Hortman and her husband [612]
-1: Trump insults Ilhan Omar and the people who vote for her [613]
-1: Trump again mixes up “transgenic” and “transgender” [614]
-1: Trump claims poor economic figures for 2025 are still Biden’s fault and not his [615]
-1: Attorney-General Pam Bondi forgets the US has the First Amendment that protects even hate speech [616]
-1: Headline: National park to remove photo of enslaved man’s scars (Washington Post)
-1: Headline: Appeals court rejects Trump’s bid to unseat Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cook ahead of rate vote (APNews)
-1: Trump announces he is suing (as a citizen, not the President) the New York Times for $15 billion
-1: Trump claims Biden has “stage 9 cancer” (there are only 5 stages)

References:

607. Trump: “Why was the wonderful Turning Point under INVESTIGATION by “Deranged” Jack Smith and the Corrupt & Incompetent Biden Administration. They tried to force Charlie, and many other people and movements, out of business. They Weaponized the Justice Department against Sleepy Joe Biden’s Political Opponents, including ME! They allowed the daughter of a Judge, on one of the corrupt trials against me, to become the biggest fund raiser for Biden and Kamala, making many Millions of Dollars for herself and her family, but with her father, the Judge, not only refusing to RECUSE himself, but putting a gag order on me, not allowing ANY talk about their family corruption and unprecedented conflict of interest. Every leading legal analyst and pundit said this trial was wrong and should not have been allowed to go forward. But it did because of a Corrupt Judge who will hopefully pay a very big price for his illegal actions, someday!”

608. Q: “How will you send the National Guard into Chicago without the cooperation of the governor and mayor?”
Trump: “If they do cooperate, that’s good, if not, it’s not gonna matter at all. You know who wants to help us? Police department. They have no respect for the governor. They have no respect for the mayor. And we found that in Washington.”

609. Trump to Hegseth: “Get ready because you’ll be doing a lot of other places that are almost as troubled [as Memphis]. Some of them are equal. If you look at what’s going on in Baltimore where the governor was telling me how wonderful it is and you can’t walk across the street without being shot.”

610. Trump: “The problem is on the left—it’s not on the right… When you look at the agitators, you look at the scum that speaks so badly of our country, the American flag burnings all over the place, that is the left, that’s not the right.”

611. Reporter: “The president of Venezuela called the strike on the boat illegal.”
Trump: “What’s illegal is the fact that 300 million people died last year from drugs.”

612. Q: “Do you think it would’ve been fitting to lower the flags to half staff when Melissa Hortman, the Minnesota House Speaker, was gunned down by an assassin?”
Trump: “I’m not familiar. The who?”

613. Trump on Ilhan Omar: “I think she’s a disgraceful person. A loser. It’s amazing the way people vote. I know it’s people from her area, maybe of the world. They got here and the vote her in. It’s hard to believe. But I think she’s a disgusting person.”

614. Trump: They spent “$8 million on making mice transgender.”

615. Trump on declining GDP: “You probably saw some numbers today. I have to start off by saying that’s Biden, not Trump. Because we came in on January -- these are quarterly numbers.”

616. Bondi: “There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech. And there is no place — especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie — in our society. We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech.”

12 September 2025
-1: Headline: Trump administration plans push at UN to restrict global asylum rights (Reuters)
-1: Headline: Trump’s Justice dept disappears Study that Proves Most Violence is Caused By Far Right Radicals (Daily Kos)
-1: Host on Fox News says homeless people with mental health problems and who refuse treatment should be executed
-1: In a blow to the US, Denmark opts to purchase its next generation missile defence system from France and Italy [604]
-1: Dinesh D’Souza claims Tyler Robinson (who killed Charlie Kirk) was a radicalized leftist [605]
-1: Trump’s son Donald declares people who say political violence can come from the right wing should be silenced [606]

References:

604. Loss for Trump as Denmark chooses Franco-Italian air defense system over US Patriots [politico.eu]

605. Tyler Robinson is every conservative parent’s worst nightmare. Send your kid to college where he is radicalized into a violent “antifascist” by the sly, scheming leftist professors. We need to put radical academia on trial along with its cherished product, Tyler Robinson.

606. Donald Trump Jr.: “Anyone who says political violence is a problem on both sides and not just from those aligned with the Democrat party should be thrown off the air.”

11 September 2025
-1: Trump’s reaction to Charlie Kirk’s killing was to list some “radical left” attacks and ignore Melissa Hortman [593]
-1: Trump says it’s the radicals on the left that are the problem (statistics say exact opposite) [594]
-1: Trump suggests the US should model its judicial system after China’s [594]
-1: Yet again Trump shows his ignorance of how water in the Pacific Northwest flows [595]
-1: In response to pushback from Chicago, Trump says he’ll send troops into Memphis instead [597]
-1: Trump claims Chicago is “worse than Afghanistan” (via Aaron Rupar on X)
-1: Trump claims a committee investigating the January 6 insurrection burned all their files [598]
-1: Trump says he “can fix Chicago much bigger than DC.” [599]
-1: Trump approves disaster aid for Wisconsin because “we had huge victories in Wisconsin” [600]
-1: Trump approves disaster aid for South Dakota because they “voted for me in historic margins” [601]
-1: Trump claims he did well in the presidential election in New York (facts say otherwise) [602]
-1: Trump again attacks mainstream media as “radical left networks” [603]

References:

593. Trump: “From the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania last year, which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on ICE agents, to the vicious murder of a healthcare executive in the streets of New York, to the shooting of House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and three others, radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives.”

594. Earhardt: “We have radicals on the right as well. How do we fix this country?”
TRUMP: “I’ll tell you something that’s gonna get me in trouble but I couldn’t care less. The radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don’t want to see crime. The radicals on the left are the problem.”

595. Trump: “One thing I say is we have to have quick trials. I called it quick trial. ‘Cause in China they do have quick trials, you know? ... They should have a trial the following day.”

596. Trump: “They lost 25,000 houses to fires because they didn’t have the water come down from the Pacific Northwest. They have a lot of water but they send it out into Pacific to protect a little tiny fish which did very badly when it didn’t have any water, by the way.”

597. Trump: “Maybe I’ll be the first to say it right now again -- we’re going to Memphis. Memphis is deeply troubled. The mayor is happy. He’s a Democrat. And the governor is happy. We’re gonna fix that just like we did Washington. I would’ve preferred going to Chicago ... we’ll bring in the military too if we need it.”

598. Trump: “They took the unselect committee that investigated stuff. It found out that we were right on everything. They burned all the information because we were right on everything. Nancy Pelosi knew -- I told her, I said, ‘I’ll give you 10,000 troops.’ January 6.”

599. Trump: “I can fix Chicago much bigger than DC. But we can bring in the military, we can bring in the National Guard. We’ll do what we have to do.”

600. Trump: “I just informed Senator Ron Johnson that, based on his request, I am approving $29.8 Million Dollars for the wonderful State of Wisconsin to help them recover from the major storms and flooding they experienced in August. We had Huge Victories in Wisconsin in 2016, 2020, and 2024, and it is my Honor to deliver BIG for Wisconsinites!”

601. Trump: “I just got off the phone with our wonderful Republican Leader John Thune. I am approving over $500,000 for the Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate Tribe in the Great State of South Dakota for the terrible Storms and Flooding they endured in June. I love the people of South Dakota, who voted for me in Historic Margins in 2016, 2020, and 2024. Together, we will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

602. Trump: “In the presidential election I did great in New York. But there’s a lot of question on the voters, on the booths on everything else, on the votes.”

603. Trump: “The Left is having a hard time...We’re talking about radical left networks and cable channels like...MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, they’re all terrible. Absolutely terrible and unfair. But even they have been like this cannot be allowed to happen.”

10 September 2025
0: Info on Charlie Kirk: far-right commentator who hated Blacks, LGTBQ+, immigrants; supported 2nd amendment rights
-1: In a televised address from the Oval Office, without evidence Trump blamed Charlie Kirk’s killing on “radical leftists”
-1: Trump lowers flags in the US to be flown at half mast for Charlie Kirk
-1: Trump says he will posthumously award Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom
-1: Border Czar Tom Homan says the administration is sending troops to Boston even if the mayor doesn’t like it [591]
-1: Tom Homan extends the threat to other cities as well [592]
-1: Headline: Venezuela says 11 killed in US boat strike were not gang members (The Guardian)

References:

591. Homan to Boston Mayor Michelle Wu: “We’re coming. We’re gonna be there tomorrow. We’re gonna be there the next day. We’re gonna be there next month. We’re gonna be there next year. You’re not stopping us from what we’re doing.”

592. Tom Homan: “I don’t care who the mayor is. If mayors and governors don’t want to help, then get out of the way... They better not step over the line. They better not impede our efforts or there’s gonna be consequences. We’re coming!”

9 September 2025
-1: Trump’s spiritual advisor, Paula White: “To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God.”
-1: Trump reposts conspiracy video about thimerosal in vaccines, adding “They’re ALL poison. Every. Single. One.”
-1: Trump removes a peace vigil that’s been held outside the White House sine 1981, calling it “communist” [587]
-1: Trump says there’s a warmth between him and Putin, and that’s a good thing [588]
-1: Leavitt says Trump would “love” to arrest and deport undesirables in every Democrat-run city in the US [590]
-1: Speaker Mike Johnson say Chicago should just let the troops into their city [589]

References:

587. Trump: “One of the fake news media was asking about the blue tent. Somehow, these people were well connected with the communist cause. I said, there is a tent up there? He was a friendly reporter for a change. We got it down very quickly. It was not easy. When people chain themselves to a tree and this and that, but that is okay. That was a tough one.”

588. Trump: “Despite the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax...I maintained a very good relationship with Putin. You saw that when he got off his plane, I got off my plane — there’s a warmth there. There’s a decent feeling. And it’s a good thing.”

589. Mike Johnson: “I cannot for the life of me understand how the Democrats think this is some kind of winning political message. Yield man! Let the troops come into your city and show how crime can be reduced.”

590. Leavitt: “These are the bad guys that we are picking up in Washington DC every day. The president would love to do this in every Democrat-run city across the country.”

8 September 2025
-1: A lewd birthday card Trump made for Epstein emerges; Trump denies the distinctive signature on it is his
-1: Trump decries the Biden administration as “mean, radical, horrible people.” [584]
-1: Trump claims crime is down to zero in D.C. save for some domestic violence that shouldn’t be in the stats [585]
-1: Tramp says he’d “love to go into Chicago and straighten it out”
-1: House speaker Mike Johnson claims Trump was actually working as an FBI informant to bring down Epstein

References:

584. Trump: “Joe Biden and the Biden administration, they were mean people. What they did to people, what they did to J6, these were mean people. These were really radical, horrible people.”

585. Trump: “… much lesser things. Things that take place in the home they call crime. You know, they’ll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife they say, ‘this is a crime. See?’”

586. Trump: “When you have horrible killings, you have to take horrible actions ... we’d love to go into Chicago and straighten it out.”

7 September 2025
-1: Trump says … something … about hostages and bodies [583]

References:

583. Trump: “So they have hostages, It could be a little bit less than 20, you know, they tend to die. Even though they’re young people, they’re dying. Young people don’t die. Young people stay alive…We have about 38 bodies. Bodies. Meaning bodies.”

6 September 2025
-1: JD Vance says he doesn’t give a ◊◊◊◊ about war crimes [580]
-1: Commerce secretary blames the Bureau of Labor Statistics for poor job numbers, not the economy [581]
-1: ICE raids a battery plant being built by Hyundai in Georgia and detains 500 Korean nationals
-1: Scott Bessent decries facts reported in the New York Times [582]

References:

580: JD Vance: Killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and best use of our military.
Brian Krassenstein: Killing the citizens of another nation who are civilians without any due process is called a war crime.
JD Vance: I don’t give a ◊◊◊◊ what you call it

581. Trump’s Commerce Secretary blames the Bureau of Labor statistics for poor job numbers. He says the BLS is “rooting against America and against Donald Trump”

582. Welker: “What do you say to companies like John Deere who say these tariffs are hurting them?”
Bessent: “If you’re quoting the New York Times, that’s not a fair observer.”
Welker: “These are statistics. This is about John Deere, not the New York Times.”
Bessent: “That’s one company they have cherrypicked.”

5 September 2025
-1: Trump again falsely takes credit for solving seven wars [578]
-1: Trump says he can tell if immigrants are bad based on how they “look”: “You could look at them and say ‘big trouble.’”
-1: Stephen Miller says the reason for schools is to indoctrinate them into “loving America” [579]

References:

578. Trump: “You know we solved seven wars. We had one that was supposed to be easy but it turned out to be difficult. Seven are done. They were supposed to be difficult to solve. I solved everyone of ‘em.”

579. Stephen Miller: “Children will be taught to love America … As we close the Dept of Education and provide funding to states, we’re going to make sure these funds are not being used to promote communist ideology.”
 
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