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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

Vixen said:
In his blurb he says he spent a month in Estonia and had the help of an Estonian documentary maker, Valeria Kaspar, as well as meeting people.
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Does he say he interviewed Voronin? Voronin died in 2002, the book was published in 2010, do you think Jack A Nelson spent a month in Estonia 8 years before the book was published and interviewed Voronion? Does he describe Voronin as "grossly overweight" and "suffering from an excruciating injury"? You started off with a grossly overweight, clinically obese man who suffered from an excruciating back injury who died 2 years later because of his chronic health issues. What we actually have so far is a 34 years old broad shouldered bear of a man who survived the Estonia sinking died unexpectedly 8 years later.
 
Vixen said:
Perhaps he chatted to Vassili or Vassili's grandfather.
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Or perhaps not.

Vixen said:
Perhaps it was an electronic exchange.
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With whom?

You are in full speculation mode now, even though you assured us you only deal in facts. You claim Voronin was "morbidly obese" but you can't provide any evidence or citation for that judgment. You cite an author who is able to nail Voronin's weight precisely, even though it's quite evidence your author could not possibly have made that observation.
 
Vixen said:
Perhaps he chatted to Vassili or Vassili's grandfather. Perhaps it was an electronic exchange.
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Hold on, you said you daresay that he spoke to Voronon, which was your justification for how'd he know about his weight and health, etc.

Did Vassili's grandfather describe Voronin as "grossly overweight" "suffering from an excruciating back injury"?

What exactly Vixen, is the evidence that Voronin was a grossly overweight man with chronic health problems and an excruciating back injury? So far all we've got is, at best, a 34 year old broad shouldered bear of a man being able to survive the Estonia... which seems to be pretty much the opposite of the fantastical narrative Vixen has invented.
 
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JesseCuster said:
Hold on, you said you daresay that he spoke to Voronon, which was your justification for how'd he know about his weight and health, etc.

Did Vassili's grandfather describe Voronin as "grossly overweight" "suffering from an excruciating back injury"?

What exactly Vixen, is the evidence that Voronin was a grossly overweight man with chronic health problems and an excruciating back injury? So far all we've got is, at best, a 34 year old broad shouldered bear of a man being able to survive the Estonia... which seems to be pretty much the opposite of the fantastical narrative Vixen has invented.
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It is stated in the book that it was later confirmed by a hospital he had a fractured spine. IIRC he was 42 at the time, or perhaps that was his age when he died. <shrug> It is important because...? Is it normal to die of a stroke at age 50?
 
Vixen said:
It is stated in the book that it was later confirmed by a hospital he had a fractured spine. IIRC he was 42 at the time, or perhaps that was his age when he died. <shrug> It is important because...? Is it normal to die of a stroke at age 50?
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You said he was 42 when he died, which would make him about 34 when the Estonia sank.
 
Vixen said:
It is stated in the book that it was later confirmed by a hospital he had a fractured spine. IIRC he was 42 at the time, or perhaps that was his age when he died. <shrug> It is important because...? Is it normal to die of a stroke at age 50?
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It's important because the whole story about Voronin being a grossly overweight man with suffering from an excruciating back injury, somehow spritely jumping into a lifeboat, you have made it important by brining it up repeatedly as evidence for something strange that warrants attention. There's no there there upon further inspection, it's just a tall tale you've invented from nothing.

Also, is it normal to die of a stroke at age 50? Do you think his dying of a stroke 8 years later makes his surviving the sinking something that should be taken as evidence of something?
 
Vixen said:
It is stated in the book that it was later confirmed by a hospital he had a fractured spine. IIRC he was 42 at the time, or perhaps that was his age when he died. <shrug> It is important because...? Is it normal to die of a stroke at age 50?
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It happens.
 
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