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[Darat]

You say they don't have rights?

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He said the exact opposite of that in his second sentence.

 

[Poem]

General comment No. 25 (2021) on children’s rights in relation to the digital environment:
In this general comment, the Committee explains how States parties should implement the Convention in relation to the digital environment and provides guidance on relevant legislative, policy and other measures to ensure full compliance with their obligations under the Convention and the Optional Protocols thereto in the light of the opportunities, risks and challenges in promoting, respecting, protecting and fulfilling all children’s rights in the digital environment.

 

[Poem]

He said the exact opposite of that in his second sentence.

And I am talking about the right to access mass media which they should and do have a right to.

 

[Darat]

And I am talking about the right to access mass media which they should and do have a right to.

Which wasn't what you posted.

 

[Ziggurat]

You say they don't have rights?

UNCRC, Article 17:

I said they don't have THAT right. Nowhere in that article is the Internet even mentioned.

The Children and Young People's Commissioner (Scotland) states with regard to that article:

The commissioner is an idiot. They invented a right to the internet which doesn't exist.

Article 13:
1. The child shall have the right to freedom of expression;

That's the LAST thing the UK government believes. Hell, they don't even think adults have that right.

Essentially, you are submitting to the notion that the internet is the right and preserve of adults

Yes.

and thus denying children access to all that is beneficial for them.

I'm not denying them anything. Their parents may choose to deny them that. I never said they had to.

And the Internet isn't very beneficial to children. You should know that by now.

 

[Ziggurat]

General comment No. 25 (2021) on children’s rights in relation to the digital environment:

Comments by a committee have no legal force, not even in principle. And you should look up who was on the committee. Not a group I would take advice from.

 

[Poem]

I said they don't have THAT right. Nowhere in that article is the Internet even mentioned.

The internet isn't mass media?
#2,762

The commissioner is an idiot. They invented a right to the internet which doesn't exist.

See above.

That's the LAST thing the UK government believes. Hell, they don't even think adults have that right.

No one has total freedom.

Yes.

Reason?

I'm not denying them anything. Their parents may choose to deny them that. I never said they had to.

You are denying them their rights.

And the Internet isn't very beneficial to children. You should know that by now.

See above.

 

[Poem]

Comments by a committee have no legal force, not even in principle.

Unsubstantiated.

And you should look up who was on the committee. Not a group I would take advice from.

I need to comment on this?

 

[Poem]

And the Internet isn't very beneficial to children. You should know that by now.

Translation: The pornographers (et al) have won.

 

[arthwollipot]

Translation: The pornographers (et al) have won.

Only inasmuch as they have always won.

What laws were there protecting children from pornography in Victorian England? In Mediaeval France? In Ancient Rome? Pornography is more restricted now than it ever has been, in all of human history.

 

[Poem]

Only inasmuch as they have always won.

Our future is determined by our poor historical record?

What laws were there protecting children from pornography in Victorian England? In Mediaeval France? In Ancient Rome? Pornography is more restricted now than it ever has been, in all of human history.

24/7 - as much as you can watch, rule 34 content?

No comparison.

 

[Poem]

And the Internet isn't very beneficial to children. You should know that by now.

Mandela: There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats it's children.

 

[arthwollipot]

24/7 - as much as you can watch, rule 34 content?

There are laws restricting child sexual abuse and nonconsensual content. That's more restrictive than it has ever been. The amount of content is not the issue. The issue is the laws that bind it. In Victorian London it was not illegal to produce any kind of porn. And the Victorians were really perverted.

 

[Poem]

There are laws restricting child sexual abuse and nonconsensual content. That's more restrictive than it has ever been. The amount of content is not the issue. The issue is the laws that bind it. In Victorian London it was not illegal to produce any kind of porn. And the Victorians were really perverted.

You aren't rewriting history?
Obscene Publications Act 1857
Obscene Publications Act 1959

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[arthwollipot]

The Victorian era started in 1837. The Obscene Publications Act was a response to all the horniness, which in fact did not start in Victoria's times.

 

[Poem]

There are laws restricting child sexual abuse and nonconsensual content.

The internet is awash with such content. We have been through this already.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

NM

 

[Skeptical Greg]

#2,759

#2756, #2757

 

[Poem]

The Victorian era started in 1837. The Obscene Publications Act was a response to all the horniness, which in fact did not start in Victoria's times.

Vagrancy Act of 1824

 

[Darat]

The internet is awash with such content. We have been through this already.

If criminalising the making and viewing hasn't worked to stop the internet being awash with child abuse content, how is criminalising i.e banning porn going to achieve your aim of no porn?