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I wonder what caveats are bearied in the trade agreement with the EU. The supposed agreement for the EU to import $250 billion/yaer in energy from the USA would require, assuming that the USA didn't eliminate its exports to non-EU countries, the USA to more than double its energy exports while the EU would be quadrupling its energy imports from the USA.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
I wonder what caveats are bearied in the trade agreement with the EU. The supposed agreement for the EU to import $250 billion/yaer in energy from the USA would require, assuming that the USA didn't eliminate its exports to non-EU countries, the USA to more than double its energy exports while the EU would be quadrupling its energy imports from the USA.
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I'm guessing there's an 'up to' somewhere in there, or some other language equivalent to it. The only energy the US could export would be coal oil and gas and I doubt there's much of a market for those given the relative costs versus other sources of gas and oil, coal is pretty much a non starter. Or maybe buying US solar panels and wind turbines, would count?
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
I wonder what caveats are bearied in the trade agreement with the EU. The supposed agreement for the EU to import $250 billion/yaer in energy from the USA would require, assuming that the USA didn't eliminate its exports to non-EU countries, the USA to more than double its energy exports while the EU would be quadrupling its energy imports from the USA.
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Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggy" until you find a big rock.

The EU know full well this agreement is a load of old bollocks, eine Menge alten Blödsinn, un mucchio di vecchie sciocchezze, un tas de vieilles conneries. But Donald goes away thinking he has "won against the EU". But honestly. Is Trump going to even notice that none of this well ever come to pass in reality? No. All he wanted was the MAGA likes at home for "making the deal".
 
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Darat said:
The big lie works. For an example closer to home look how the Tory's constant refrain about it being Labour who crashed the economy in 2008 worked.
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The Don said:
Doubtless the big lie works, but do the proponents of the big lie actually believe it, or do they consider it a rhetorical device ?
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The Great Zaganza said:
I think there are 3 types:
- those who do believe is true
- those who by choosing to believe think it will become true
- those who think it's false, but go along because the result suits them - they might become believers later when the lie works better than their wildest expectations

The net effect is the same for all
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Getting back to the subject of this thread, there is a fourth type, of which Donald Trump is the most prominent example:

- those who have become so unfamiliar with the concept of truth that it would never occur to them to consider whether there are any differences between a lie, a false belief, and a rhetorical device
 
and nobody is shocked
about half the country knew exactly where his thought patterns are in November of 2024
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Trump's recent trip to Scotland was widely criticized as a display of "self-absorbed" behavior, with a series of disjointed rants, including bizarre comments about windmills, starvation, and conspiracy theories. His ramblings were seen as showcasing a president in mental decline, embarrassing...
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Trump's recent trip to Scotland was widely criticized as a display of "self-absorbed" behavior, with a series of disjointed rants, including bizarre comments about windmills, starvation, and conspiracy theories. His ramblings were seen as showcasing a president in mental decline, embarrassing the U.S. on the world stage.
 
The Don said:
Do they honestly believe this ?

I get that "lock them up" can be used as a rhetorical device to whip up the base and to generate outrage but do the vast majority of Republican members of congress really now believe that the 2020 election was stolen, that there's a vast anti-Trump Deep State conspiracy and that all of those people genuinely belong in Guantanamo Bay for crimes committed against the US ?

I get that there are "characters" like MTG and Boebert who seem to be to be looney tunes and that the more recently elected GOP congresscritters have been elected on a MAGA ticket and so are much more likely to be fully on board with the MAGA message but there are members who have been there for decades and/or who represent purple districts or states, do they also believe all of this stuff ?
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Ron Johnson is one of the stupider members of congress (not exactly an exclusive club, I admit), so who knows.
 
Tero said:
and nobody is shocked
about half the country knew exactly where his thought patterns are in November of 2024
www.threads.com

Tom Wellborn (@tomwellborn3rd) on Threads

Trump's recent trip to Scotland was widely criticized as a display of "self-absorbed" behavior, with a series of disjointed rants, including bizarre comments about windmills, starvation, and conspiracy theories. His ramblings were seen as showcasing a president in mental decline, embarrassing...
www.threads.com www.threads.com
Trump's recent trip to Scotland was widely criticized as a display of "self-absorbed" behavior, with a series of disjointed rants, including bizarre comments about windmills, starvation, and conspiracy theories. His ramblings were seen as showcasing a president in mental decline, embarrassing the U.S. on the world stage.
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Not according to the Gammons and the Right in the UK.


They say Donald humiliated Starmer and made him look like a clueless idiot as he sat their obviously shaking in fear as Donald 'owned' him.
 
welshdean said:
And...it looks like Harvard is going to cave.
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Paywalled for me.
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Here is a non-paywalled article about it...

From: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/loca...on-to-settle-disputes-with-trump-nyt/3779041/
Harvard University could be willing to pay up to $500 million to end its problems with the Trump Administration, according to a new report by The New York Times,

Not sure if the Times has more details than this article. But there is no confirmation about a final decision (and what was written had a 'could be' and 'up to' stuck in there), so there is a faint bit of hope that Harvard might continue the battle.
 
Segnosaur said:
Here is a non-paywalled article about it...

From: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/loca...on-to-settle-disputes-with-trump-nyt/3779041/
Harvard University could be willing to pay up to $500 million to end its problems with the Trump Administration, according to a new report by The New York Times,

Not sure if the Times has more details than this article. But there is no confirmation about a final decision (and what was written had a 'could be' and 'up to' stuck in there), so there is a faint bit of hope that Harvard might continue the battle.
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Hopefully Harvard pulls a Trump, promising to pay out, yet after 3.5 years, nothing has actually happened.
 
CNBC: The Vietnam deal that the president announced earlier in July -- I don't think we've seen confirmation from the Vietnamese government of that deal. Do we have agreement with them on paper?

BESSENT: I assume we do

CNBC: You haven't seen that paperwork?

BESSENT: Ambassador Greer keeps all that

https://twitter.com/x/status/1950259282617708868
 
Aw ◊◊◊◊ it, who cares anymore?

WASHINGTON, July 29 (Reuters) - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will rescind the long-standing finding that greenhouse gas emissions endanger human health, as well as tailpipe emission standards for vehicles, removing the legal foundation of greenhouse gas regulations across industries, EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin announced on Tuesday.
Republican President Donald Trump's pick Zeldin announced the agency's plan to rescind the "endangerment finding" at an event at a truck factory in Indiana, alongside Energy Secretary Chris Wright, and called it the largest deregulatory action in U.S. history.
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Earlier on Tuesday, Zeldin told the Ruthless podcast that repealing the endangerment finding will save Americans money and unravel two decades of regulation aimed at reducing carbon dioxide, methane and other greenhouse gases from cars, power plants, oil production and other sources.
In 2009, the EPA under former Democratic President Barack Obama issued a finding that emissions from new motor vehicles contribute to pollution and endanger public health and welfare. It was upheld in several legal challenges and underpinned subsequent greenhouse gas regulations.
"With regard to the endangerment finding, they’ll say carbon dioxide is a pollutant and that’s the end of it. They’ll never acknowledge any type of benefit or need for carbon dioxide," Zeldin told the podcast. "It’s important to note, and they don’t, how important it is for the planet."
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