Should sanctuary cities be tolerated?

[acbytesla]

I write my own posts, which means I'm very aware of them. Thank you.

But obviously not a good judge of what is and isn't stupid.

 

[Hercules56]

But obviously not a good judge of what is and isn't stupid.

Speak for yourself.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

By that reasoning, we shouldn't allow anyone to enter the country. Ever.

You know who commits crimes? Living people. The solution is obvious.

 

[Hercules56]

You know who commits crimes? Living people. The solution is obvious.

That's pretty funny.

 

[acbytesla]

Prove it.

From Whitehouse.gov.

Trump wants our institutions to have foreign students, but believes that the foreign students should be people that can love our country.

President Trump: “The students? Well, we want to have great students here. We just don’t want students that are causing trouble. We want to have students. I want to have foreign students.”
President Trump: “We have people who want to go to Harvard and other schools, they can’t get in because we have foreign students there. But I want to make sure that the foreign students are people that can love our country.”
President Trump: “We are still waiting for the Foreign Student Lists from Harvard so that we can determine, after a ridiculous expenditure of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, how many radicalized lunatics, troublemakers all, should not be let back into our Country. Harvard is very slow in the presentation of these documents, and probably for good reason!”

 

[Hercules56]

From Whitehouse.gov.

Trump wants our institutions to have foreign students, but believes that the foreign students should be people that can love our country.

President Trump: “The students? Well, we want to have great students here. We just don’t want students that are causing trouble. We want to have students. I want to have foreign students.”
President Trump: “We have people who want to go to Harvard and other schools, they can’t get in because we have foreign students there. But I want to make sure that the foreign students are people that can love our country.”
President Trump: “We are still waiting for the Foreign Student Lists from Harvard so that we can determine, after a ridiculous expenditure of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, how many radicalized lunatics, troublemakers all, should not be let back into our Country. Harvard is very slow in the presentation of these documents, and probably for good reason!”

How many Green Card holders and people with Education/Work visas have been "rounded up"?

 

[ponderingturtle]

So urge Congress to increase the number of work Visas.

Why would they do that, republicans have blocked immigration reform for decades, it is a pointless wish. Like having police who identify themselves, we just have to learn to love the secret police.

 

[Hercules56]

Why would they do that, republicans have blocked immigration reform for decades, it is a pointless wish. Like having police who identify themselves, we just have to learn to love the secret police.

I guess you'll just have to give up then.

 

[ponderingturtle]

I guess you'll just have to give up then.

Why not you love the secret police and support them. That clearly means you have given up.

ANy masked man claiming to be ICE can make anyone disapear with out any paper trail or identification, that is a secret police right there.

 

[Hercules56]

Why not you love the secret police and support them...

Another lie, I dont support any "secret police".

 

[ponderingturtle]

Another lie, I dont support any "secret police".

Sure you do, you just don't like it expressed in such terms.

Secret police are secret because they don't identify themselves just like your buddies in ICE do. ICE = Secret Police.

Really don't people know the basic facts of how police states work?

 

[Hercules56]

Sure you do, you just don't like it expressed in such terms...

No, I do not. I think I know what I do and do not support.

If you are gonna sit there and tell me that you know me better then I know myself, well, there's a word for that.

 

[ponderingturtle]

No, I do not. I think I know what I do and do not support.

What you support is obvious.

 

[Hercules56]

What you support is obvious.

LOL, I think James Randi would tell you that mind reading isn't a thing.

 

[The Don]

Yes, we are better off without illegal immigrants. Its not rocket science.

One reason being they contribute to our overall crime numbers.

But not disproportionately. You'd be worse off with a comparable number of citizens.

 

[Hercules56]

But not disproportionately. You'd be worse off with a comparable number of citizens.

Never said it was disproportionate.

But they contribute to crime nonetheless.

They also are a drain on our schools, hospitals and social services.

 

[Donal]

I mean the drug cartels. But if you mean the illegal builders and farmers, I'm happy to form an anti-illegal-boogeyman alliance with you.

No, I mean the builders and farmers. all of them. Those industries are completely reliant on undocumented labor.

More enforcement, more ICE raids, let's go!

If you mean send i nthe goons with machine guns into the homes of executives of the companies taking advantage of the undocumented workers so they can be dragged out under machine guns in front of their screaming families, hell ya.

but. no, you mean do that to those workers you want to stay invisible.

Like when they're here illegally and we arrest them and deport them.

Psst, being here "illegally" (which itself is a moving target), is a civil violation not criminal. Like rolling a stop sign. You don't get arrested and sent to jail for civil violations.

Honestly, if I didn't know better I'd think you were actually against illegal immigration!

If you knew better, you wouldn't be a right-winger.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Never said it was disproportionate.

But they contribute to crime nonetheless.

They also are a drain on our schools, hospitals and social services.

YOu just say that because they are poor.

 

[Hercules56]

...Psst, being here "illegally" (which itself is a moving target), is a civil violation not criminal. Like rolling a stop sign. You don't get arrested and sent to jail for civil violations...

So what. The answer to someone being here illegally, is to remove them.

Its common sense.

 

[ponderingturtle]

So what. The answer to someone being here illegally, is to remove them.

Its common sense.

Like when we sent the jews back to Hitler, they were trying to come here illegally and so we did the right thing and sent them right to the gas chambers. The last voyage of the St Louis really should be taught as the shining symbol of American values it was.