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What did Democrats do wrong?

What did Democrats do wrong?

  • Didn't fight inflation enough.

    Votes: 12 15.2%
  • Didn't fight illegal immigration enough.

    Votes: 22 27.8%
  • Too much focus on abortion.

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • Too much transgender stuff.

    Votes: 28 35.4%
  • America not ready for Progressive women leader.

    Votes: 26 32.9%
  • Should have kept Joe.

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • Not enough focus on new jobs.

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • Nothing, Trump cheated & played dirty!

    Votes: 14 17.7%
  • Didn't stop Gaza War.

    Votes: 8 10.1%
  • I can be Agent M.

    Votes: 6 7.6%

  • Total voters
    79
That is if you are lucky enough to have a generic version of the drug they need and live near a pharmacy that carries it. My mom has had to go looking around a few places to find certain medications. She is fortunate enough to live in a major metro area, so there are plenty of pharmacies.
 
Perhaps in the alternate reality where voters made an informed decision about actual economic conditions, “popular” and “small tranche of the voting population” means something different than they do here.
Yeah if you want a 'mistake' the Democrats made it was assuming the electorate was actually going to vote in favour of their own interests.
 
Assuming 100% of Medicare recipients are being prescribed one of those ten expensive drugs, yes.

Leaving out the step where you figure out how widely used those drugs are must've saved a good deal of time. :p


The program has been expanded and Harris promised to continue expanding it.

Again, Biden and Harris were addressing real issues that affected millions of people. The Medicare drugs was just one example. The FTC and DoJ going after inflated bank and credit card fees is another.
 
The program has been expanded and Harris promised to continue expanding it.

Again, Biden and Harris were addressing real issues that affected millions of people. The Medicare drugs was just one example. The FTC and DoJ going after inflated bank and credit card fees is another.

You are not getting anything remotely resembling good faith engagement.
 
Yes, he claimed he did that. And he claims he is doing it again. So, even the republicans think it is a popular idea. What sets them apart is Biden actually did it.

The Infrastructure Bill, the Inflation Reduction Act, and the American Rescue Plan Act all had real, tangible benefits for Americans. Do I think there should have been more? Yes. Do I agree with everything in those bills or how everything was done? No. But if you're seriously arguing that the Biden administration didn't do anything that helps the Americans, you're as lost as a MAGAt in a library.
 
To sum up: Democrats didn't do or campaign on anything popular, except for the things that they explicitly did and campaigned on that are poplar, but those things aren't popular enough, and none of this will be based on any meaningful metric.
 
To sum up: Democrats didn't do or campaign on anything popular, except for the things that they explicitly did and campaigned on that are poplar, but those things aren't popular enough, and none of this will be based on any meaningful metric.
They relied on facts rather than "feels".

If someone believes that nothing has been done about crumbling infrastructure because that's what they've been repeatedly told then no amount of facts will sway them until those same sources change their tune.

It's the same with the economy. If you're combing through someone's financial records to show them that they're 2% better off in real terms you've lost the argument already if they feel that they're poorer because eggs are $5 a dozen and they think they were $1 a dozen a couple of years ago.

The right wing has grasped the idea that most people aren't robots who are swayed by a dry, logical, argument laden with facts. Most of us are emotional people looking for a message which aligns with our feelings.
 
they've also managed to present themselves as the "facts don't care about your feelings" party, focusing entirely on the culture wars and almost completely abandoning any discussion of policy or governance, and thus get the best of both worlds. this is all backed by a massive and well funded propaganda machine.

forget what the dems did wrong, the dems aren't even playing the same game
 
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Came across this paragraph in my substack reading queue this a.m.

The biggest reason Harris lost is that she was the representative of an unpopular, incumbent administration that failed to control inflation or illegal immigration and was seen as out of touch with voters’ concerns about crime. As pollster David Shor noted on Ezra Klein’s podcast last month, Biden’s job approval was 20 points underwater by the time he left office — he was a huge liability for the party and for his vice president.1 The second-biggest reason she lost is that she was seen as too liberal. This is also a topic Shor covers in his presentation: 49% of voters saw Harris as more liberal than themselves, while only 39% of voters saw Trump as more conservative. That too-liberal image was driven in large part by unwise choices she made during the campaign for the Democratic nomination in 2020, endorsing positions favored by left-wing pressure groups, like decriminalizing illegal entry and providing taxpayer-funded sex changes to imprisoned criminals and detained migrants.​

Barro actually packs several issues into his two reasons here, but you get the idea. He also goes to some trouble to deprecate sexism as an explanation, linking to studies from Tufts and Stanford on point.

It's amazing what can be achieved with well targeted propaganda, isn't it?
 
They relied on facts rather than "feels".

If someone believes that nothing has been done about crumbling infrastructure because that's what they've been repeatedly told then no amount of facts will sway them until those same sources change their tune.

It's the same with the economy. If you're combing through someone's financial records to show them that they're 2% better off in real terms you've lost the argument already if they feel that they're poorer because eggs are $5 a dozen and they think they were $1 a dozen a couple of years ago.

The right wing has grasped the idea that most people aren't robots who are swayed by a dry, logical, argument laden with facts. Most of us are emotional people looking for a message which aligns with our feelings.
They relied on facts rather than "feels".

If someone believes that nothing has been done about crumbling infrastructure because that's what they've been repeatedly told then no amount of facts will sway them until those same sources change their tune.

It's the same with the economy. If you're combing through someone's financial records to show them that they're 2% better off in real terms you've lost the argument already if they feel that they're poorer because eggs are $5 a dozen and they think they were $1 a dozen a couple of years ago.

The right wing has grasped the idea that most people aren't robots who are swayed by a dry, logical, argument laden with facts. Most of us are emotional people looking for a message which aligns with our feelings.

And in applying that last sentence to the choice that voters made in 2024, it is fair to argue that the Democrats failed to offer a message that resonated with Trump voters.

But if we want to understand what they did wrong, we need to understand what message did resonate with Trump voters, something many people in this thread refuse to examine.
 
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And in applying that last sentence to the choice that voters made in 2024, it is fair to argue that the Democrats failed to offer a message that resonated with Trump voters.

But if we want to understand what they did wrong, we need to understand what message did resonate with them, something many people in this thread refuse to examine.
Yea they needed more racism, that is the ticket to get elected in the US.
 
they've also managed to present themselves as the "facts don't care about your feelings" party, focusing entirely on the culture wars and almost completely abandoning any discussion of policy or governance, and thus get the best of both worlds. this is all backed by a massive and well funded propaganda machine.
How is this remotely on topic? I'm pretty sure there are a dozen other threads to talk about the moral and pragmatic failures of the GOP.
It's amazing what can be achieved with well targeted propaganda, isn't it?
Mistaking journalism for propaganda isn't quite as bad as mistaking propaganda for journalism, to be sure.
 
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