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Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)

US Congress unlikely to back a Greenland invasion, top Democrat says (Reuters, April 25, 2025)
"I don't believe that there is real bipartisan support in the Congress to aggressively move on Greenland," Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, the leader of Democrats in the House of Representatives, told reporters in Copenhagen during a visit by a group of Congress members.
"You'll have to ask our Republican colleagues, but I haven't seen serious Republican members of Congress weigh in support of the notion that we should somehow invade Greenland," he added.
The U.S. Congressional delegation included members of both parties although no Republicans spoke at a press event held after they met Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen.
Hakeem Jeffries Holds Press Briefing During CODEL In Denmark (Forbes on YouTube, April 25, 2025 - 25:16 min.)
A couple of MAGA comments (I assume):
"Who is paying for this? Undermining President Trump. Clown."
"Painfully embarrassing to listen to congressional representatives who are not ambassadors being insubordinate and pulling a stunt like this."
"What about being that responsible adult and talking and bringing your ideas in your own country. Seems a little bit like traitors"

Danish king's Greenland trip amid Trump interest pushed back a day (yahoo!news/Reuters, April 28, 2025)
Denmark's King Frederik on Monday pushed back by one day a visit to Greenland planned to underscore unity with the Danish territory in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's interest in taking over the huge Arctic island.
The royal palace in Copenhagen said the trip was now expected to begin on Tuesday following the closure of the island's main airport on Monday because of stormy weather.
 
Greenland is ‘worried’ U.S. will invade: Dem sounds alarm on Trump’s annex talk (MSNBC on YouTube, April 28, 2025 - 5:39 min.)
Greenland and Denmark have affirmed their alliance amid President Trump's interest in acquiring the territory. Democratic representative from California, Laura Friedman, discusses what she heard from Greenland officials when a congressional delegation met with them in Denmark. She also reacts to the protest held by Democrats on the U.S. Capitol steps, gives her thoughts on Trump's approval rating sinking to historic lows in recent polling, and explains what Democrats can do to combat the Trump administration's deportation efforts.

3:32--> You were part of a Congressional delegation that went to Denmark, and you met with Greenland's officials there. What did you learn? What did they tell you about either the likelihood or their desire to join up with the United States?
- We heard from every person we spoke to, every elected official, every member of the press. We met with the prime minister, the foreign minister. We met with a representative of the indigenous population of Greenland. Resoundingly and overwhelmingly, they do not want to be part of the United States. And they are very worried that we're going to invade. And this is not a joke to them.
I was frankly surprised at how worried and anxious the elected representatives and the people of Denmark are right now. They believe that there is a chance that they're going to be at war with the United States. They actually think that we're going to invade Denmark and try to take Greenland by force.
And why do they believe that? Because Donald Trump has signaled that that might happen. We tried to reassure them that congress is a co-equal branch of government. It's up to us if we're going to declare war or invade another sovereign nation, a democracy, an ally. But they're still worried, quite honestly.

King of Denmark visits Greenland as Trump eyes strategic Arctic island (AP on YouTube, April 30, 2025 - 46 sec.)
King Frederik X of Denmark arrived in Greenland on Tuesday, kicking off a visit to the semiautonomous territory that U.S. President Donald Trump wants to annex because of its strategic Arctic location.
 
WELKER: You are not ruling out military force to take Greenland?

TRUMP: I don't rule out anything. No. Not there. We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people which we'll take of and we'll cherish them and all of that. But we need that for international security.

 
Taylor Tomlinson Talks Princess Isabella’s Cell Phone Royal Portrait (After Midnight with Taylor Tomlinson on YouTube, May 6, 2025 - 4:17 min.)
Taylor Tomlinson covers some of this past weekend’s biggest news including Denmark’s Princess Isabella getting her official royal portrait done while holding her phone, the Kentucky Derby, and Trump’s plan to impose 100% tariffs on foreign films.
I am not an expert on royals, but I think that Princess Isabella should be taught to eat kiviak (Polarpedia) before they find an authentic Greenlander to marry her off to. I mean, isn't that already the royal thing to do? To strengthen the bond between territories by means of intermarriage? I wouldn't be surprised if the King of the USA had already proposed a similar transaction to Barron. Think of the headlines of that story!

Next, the Danish royal family should find a Faroe Islander for Prince Vincent. They must feel so ignored at this point, and Putin already has his eye on the Faroes.
I don't understand why the government let King Frederik marry a chick from Tasmania instead of an Inuit. I mean, what's up with that? Why would anybody want to strengthen relations with Tasmania of all places, unless the point was to steal the island from Australia, which doesn't look like a good idea since "34% of Tasmanians are reliant on welfare payments as their primary source of income," according to to Wiki.

In fact, I don't see why kiviak isn't already being served as the main course all royal banquets. As Polarpedia tells us, the Danish word for auk, the main ingredient of kiviak, is søkonger, i.e. sea kings. I can't think of a dish more royal than that!

 
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The USA escalates espionage against Greenland and Denmark

U.S. Orders Intelligence Agencies to Step Up Spying on Greenland (Wall Street Journal, May 6, 2025)

United States to 'step up espionage' on Denmark and Greenland as part of takeover goal (TheLocal.dk, May 7, 2025)

Denmark to summon US envoy over report of Greenland spying directive (TheGuardian, May 7, 2025)
CIA, NSA and Defense Intelligence Agency all included in ‘collection emphasis message’, report says
Denmark has said that it will summon the US ambassador to Copenhagen to respond to reports that US intelligence agencies have been ordered to increase espionage in Greenland.
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High-ranking officials working under Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, issued the instruction to agency heads in a “collection emphasis message”, the Journal reported.
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The Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency were all included in the message. It told chiefs to study Greenland’s independence movement and attitudes to American efforts to extract resources on the island, according to the Journal, citing two unnamed officials familiar with the matter.
Seasoned intelligence operatives say the Arctic island of about 56,000 inhabitants has not historically been a target of US espionage activity.

Løkke indkalder amerikansk ambassadør efter historier om spionage mod Grønland (DR.dk, May 7, 2025)
Løkke [the Danish minister of foreign affairs] summons the U.S. ambassador after reports about espionage against Greenland

Grønland skal 'vågne op nu' (DR.dk, May 7, 2025 - CET 18:30)
Greenland nees to 'wake up now'

Grønlandsk politiker: Man bør overveje at lukke amerikansk konsulat (DR.dk, May 7, 2025 - CET 19:09)
Formanden for det udenrigs- og sikkerhedspolitiske udvalg i det grønlandske parlament, Pipaluk Lynge, overvejer at tage drastiske skridt mod USA.
For grønlandske og danske politikere bør overveje, om man skal lukke det amerikanske konsulat i Grønlandsk hovedstad, Nuuk, siger hun.
- Jeg synes, de grønlandske politikere skal sætte sig sammen og overveje det spørgsmål.
- Man skal tale om Trumps administration, som den er. Det er en ulv i fåreklæder. Er Nato det samme som før? Det tror jeg ikke, når man spionerer mod hinanden, siger hun.
USA åbnede et konsulat i Nuuk i 2020. Det er for nylig blevet udvidet.
Greenlandic politician: One should consider closing down the U.S. consulate
The chairman of the Foreign and Security Policy Committee in the Greenlandic parliament, Pipaluk Lynge, is considering taking drastic steps against the USA.
Because Greenlandic and Danish politicians should consider closing down the American consulate in the Greenlandic capital, Nuuk, she says.
- I think Greenlandic politicians should sit down and consider this issue.
- We should talk about Trump's administration as it is. It is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Is NATO still what it used to be? I don't think so, when you spy on each other, she says.
The United States opened a consulate in Nuuk in 2020. It has recently been expanded.

ETA: 14 minutes ago:
Grønlænder: Jeg har været bange, siden Trump blev præsident (DR.dk, May 7, 2025)
Greenlander: I've been afraid since Trump became the president
 
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Denmark summons US ambassador over Greenland spying report (BBC, May 8, 2025)
"It worries me greatly because we do not spy on friends," Lars Løkke Rasmussen said, responding to the report in The Wall Street Journal.
According to the newspaper, US spy agencies were told to focus efforts on the semi-autonomous country's independence movement, and American goals to extract mineral resources there.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard accused the Journal of attempts to "undermine" President Trump "by politicizing and leaking classified information".
Tulsy Gabbard appears to have learned about crisis management from Pete Hegseth: The scandal isn't what the Trump administration has told their spy agencies to do against other countries. It's what somebody has done to her and Trump by leaking what the USA is now doing:
Tulsi Gabbard Freaks Over Damning Report U.S. Is Spying on Greenland (The New Republic, May 7, 2025)
The U.S. is increasing its espionage in Greenland as part of Donald Trump’s campaign to take control of the island.
Donald Trump’s quest to conquer Greenland is becoming increasingly serious.
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The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed of aiding deep state actors who seek to undermine the President by politicizing and leaking classified information,” Gabbard told the Journal in a statement. “They are breaking the law and undermining our nation’s security and democracy.”

On Sunday, Trump said:
"I don't say I'm going to do it, but I don't rule out anything," he said. "We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people, which we'll take care of, and we'll cherish them, and all of that. But we need that for international security."
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"What the hell's going on here? What president ever talks like that? That's not who we are," Biden told the BBC's Nick Robinson.
"We're about freedom, democracy, opportunity, not about confiscation."
However, that appears to be exactly who you are.

Denmark FURIOUS With America Over Spying (PDS News Clips on YouTube, May 7, 2025)
The Wall Street Journal reported that the US is seeking to identify people who support an American takeover, right, and to likely manufacture a movement or stage a coup of some sort. Notably, this is also happening as Greenlanders are reporting that a lot of American-made Facebook groups are popping up and trying to appear as if they're actual Greenlanders and try to probe for opinions on the U.S.
 
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For the time being, I think it's more a question of establishing what appears to be a movement demanding independence.
You know the drill: 'Greenlanders are being oppressed by Denmark and have asked the USA to help liberate them from the Danish terror regime.'

Trump Urges US Spies to Uncover Greenland's Stance on Annexation (UpToMails New York on YouTube, May 7, 2025 - 3:08 min)
0:10--> American intelligence leaders have been instructed to gather more information about Greenland's independence movement and its attitude towards an increased US presence. These classified instructions revealed by the Wall Street Journal specifically task agency chiefs with using spies and electronic tools to identify individuals in Greenland and Denmark who support Trump's goals. The aim is to gather insights into Greenland's secession movement and its perspective on US resource extraction.
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0:56--> Since his first term, Trump and his advisers have anticipated that the majority of Greenland'sapproximately 57,000 residents who are mainly Inuit would vote for independence and then form a free association agreement with the US. Under thisagreement Washington would provide defense and other benefits to Greenland.
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1:27--> Gabbard remarked: "The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed for supporting deep state individuals who seek to undermine the

president by leaking and politicizing classified information. This violates the law and undermines our national security and democracy. We will make every effort to determine the source of these illegal leaks and ensure they face the appropriate legal consequences. I havealready referred three leaks to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution, and we are actively investigating nearly a dozen more.

However, "Greenland's stance on annexation" is already well known. That's not really the point. The point is to find a way to subvert that stance and create the appearance of a movement that the USA can then be seen to step in and help fight the alleged Danish oppression.
It's an old U.S. tradition!

 
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Interesting video!
Yeah, former U.S. ambassador to Denmark, Carla Sands, makes a good attempt at supporting the current administration:
1:42--> Sands: You know, I just read it in the paper like you did, John. It's a surprise to me, but as a matter of fact, I wouldn't call it spying. I mean, Denmark and Greenland are great allies of the United States. I would just call it learning about Greenland, the Greenlandic people. They're wonderful, but a lot of Americans including in the US government don't know much about Greenland.
If the U.S. intelligence agencies were simply trying to get to learn about the wonderful Greenlanders, I don't see why Tulsi Gabbard would be so busy accusing people within those agencies of "leaking and politicizing classified information" (see post 791). Why get up in arms if all they had been told to do was to help a notoriously knowledgable and inquisitive president learn more about the ways and customs of the indigenous population of Greenland?

I am surprised that Rasmus Jarlov, a former (!) minister of business affairs for the Conservative Party, is as outspoken as he is:
I doubt that a current minister would dare say the things I have highlighted here:
3:32--> Jarlov: I am very sure that the former American ambassador is not at all surprised like she's saying. It's very, very clear what the Americans want:
They want to dominate Greenland. They want to take their natural resources. They have no interest in the people of Greenland at all.
What they want is to take control and rip the land of its resources. And the way to do that is not going to be a military invasion because that would be too insane even, even for the current American government. So now they will try instead to influence. They will try to delegitimize Denmark's presence in Greenland, uh, so in the in the future you will hear more and more stories being pushed about Greenland, and they will be false.
You already heard many times the false story about how Russia and China are threatening Greenland, which is not true. They don't have any presence there. They don't have any mining, no consulate, no activities, nothing there, but still the American government is pushing a story that they're almost about to take over Greenland.
You will hear stories about how Denmark is mistreating the indigenous people in Greenland, which is pretty thick coming from a country with a history of indigenous people like the United States, considering that Greenland is the only country in the Americas where the indigenous people has been given their own country. And you will hear stories about how Denmark is not developing Greenland, and how we are not extracting resources that could make the Greenlanders rich, which is also a false uh claim.
So more and more of those stories will come out, and they will link up with the separatists because they see, correctly, that Denmark stands between the United States taking control of Greenland. So they want to get Denmark out, and then they will have a formally - maybe in the future, the dream will be to to have - a formally independent Greenland that will be much easier to influence and ultimately to dominate, okay.
So, look, so that's the way forward and I think we can expect a lot of that in the future.
And when Sands starts lying again in defense of Trump, he gets even more confrontational.
9.04--> Jarlov: Well, the ambassador is is lying on on so many accounts. Here, it's just incredible. I mean the idea that Denmark, the idea that Denmark should have a surplus on on Greenland when we send about 800 million US dollars every year to Greenland as a direct subsidy and pay for a lot of other things, then the idea that we somehow have a surplus out of that because they buy groceries in Denmark for a little part of that money is pretty absurd and has been debunked many, many, many times.
The overseas territories of the United States have it much worse than, than Greenland has. We pay a lot more money to Greenland than the United States pay to their overseas territories. You can just go to American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, or wherever, and you can see that it's not a blessing to become dominated by the United States. They don't even have voting rights. I mean, it they have ...
Sands: We do not seek to dominate anyone.
Jarlov: Oh sure.
Sands: Not true.
Jarlov: And, and also the idea that China is taking over is completely absurd. China has no aspirations. The only threat to Greenland is the United States. And the idea that only the United States can afford to develop Greenland is also pretty absurd. You have so much depth [--> debt?]. The American citizenship, I don't know if you would even give that to the Greenlanders, but if you did, it comes with a starting price of a depth [debt?] of 110,000 US dollars, whereas Denmark is one of the most prosperous countries in the world with the highest quality of living in the world, so we can very well afford to to support Greenland as much as they want. And we're not going to accept that the Americans are lying and trying to [de?]legitimize ...
I tend to get a little queasy when, on rare occasions, I find myself agreeing with Conservatives, so let me point out that Jarlov's "as much as they want" is obviously hyperbolic. :)

By the way, I just love this one from Sands:
7:04--> President Trump looks at the world as it is, not as he wishes it was.
Maybe she hasn't seen the latest Trump gaffe about the history of Alcatraz based on an old Clint Eastwood movie ...
 
Denmark Warns Trump White House on Greenland Spying (Newsweek, May 9, 2025)
Greenlandic Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen told the newspaper Sermitsiaq: "To talk about espionage against an ally and partner, it is completely unacceptable. In addition, it is also disrespectful."
In response to questions about the Journal's report, DNI Tulsi Gabbard's office released a statement noting that she had made three "criminal" referrals to the Justice Department over intelligence community leaks. Nearly a dozen more leak cases are being investigated, Gabbard said in the statement.
Danish leader: 'You cannot spy against an ally' amid reports of US Greenland spying (ABC News, May 9, 2025)
Denmark Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen told The Associated Press “you cannot spy against an ally” after reports that the United States has stepped up intelligence gathering on Greenland, a semi-autonomous Danish territory coveted by U.S. President Donald Trump.
Frederiksen's comments Friday are the latest in the spat between Denmark, Greenland and the United States because Trump seeks to annex the strategic Arctic island. Denmark and Greenland insist that the mineral-rich island is not for sale, while Trump has not ruled out taking it by military force even though Denmark is a NATO ally.
The Danish prime minister spoke to the AP the day after Denmark summoned the top American diplomat in the country for an explanation
 
I'm pretty sure it takes more than a head of one country asking the inhabitants of a foreign territory if they'd like to join. Nations tend to take territorial claims seriously. Does anyone imagine that if Canada's PM invited Alaska to join Canada that they could say "yes" and it would happen?
 
I'm pretty sure it takes more than a head of one country asking the inhabitants of a foreign territory if they'd like to join. Nations tend to take territorial claims seriously. Does anyone imagine that if Canada's PM invited Alaska to join Canada that they could say "yes" and it would happen?
I don't think we should do that. They might actually say "yes", and we would be stuck with them.
 

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