Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)

Bad idea. It gives Trump an excuse to act overtly.
What is a bad idea?! A lot of stuff is mentioned in the video.
Do you want Greenland and Denmark to exhibit anticipatory compliance to appease Trump? - like Columbia U, but unlike Harvard?
Trump doesn't seem to need excuses to act overtly. He can always come up with new ones. Compliance only seems to encourage him.
 
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What is a bad idea?! A lot of stuff is mentioned in the video.
Do you want Greenland and Denmark to exhibit anticipatory compliance to appease Trump? - like Columbia U, but unlike Harvard?
Trump doesn't seem to need excuses to act overtly. He can always come up with new ones. Compliance only seems to encourage him.
Partnering with China for anything. Those deals usually end up being bad.
 
Partnering with China for anything. Those deals usually end up being bad.
How so ?

Do the Chinese renege on the deals or are the terms of the deals so skewed in their favour so they may as well renege ?

Do the Chinese fail to deliver or do they deliver what they're contracted to deliver - but not what's actually needed ?
 
How so ?

Do the Chinese renege on the deals or are the terms of the deals so skewed in their favour so they may as well renege ?

Do the Chinese fail to deliver or do they deliver what they're contracted to deliver - but not what's actually needed ?
It depends on what they can get away with. Small Pacific islands find they suddenly have a naval base and scores of military for training purposes. The loans can be more than the small economies are going to be able to repay.
 
Partnering with China for anything. Those deals usually end up being bad.
Do they?! Could you elaborate on that? Link to reliable sources? It's not something I know much about, so please do!

One very important member in the new Greenlandic government wants to strengthen Greenland's cooperation with China:
Grønlandsk minister vil styrke samarbejdet med Kina (TV2.dk, April 7, 2025)
Det storpolitiske spil om Grønland er mere interessant end nogensinde – ikke mindst med Donald Trumps og USA's store interesse for landet mod nord.
Men nu kommer Vivian Motzfeldt, der har ansvaret for udenrigsanliggender og forskning i den nye regering, med en opsigtsvækkende udmelding.
For Grønland bør ikke kigge mod vest, men i stedet øge samarbejdet med Kina mod øst, lyder det i et interview med Berlingske.
- Kina er meget vigtig for os, og vi er ivrige efter at styrke vores samarbejde, siger hun.
Det er uklart hvilke områder, der specifikt er tale om i forhold til et kommende samarbejde.
Men Vivian Motzfeldt rejste i 2023 til Kina, hvor hun mødtes med landets daværende vicehandelsminister og viceudenrigsminister.
Mødet blev udlagt som en succes og omhandlede blandt andet samarbejde mellem de to lande omkring fisk og turisme.
Greenlandic minister wants to strengthen cooperation with China
The political game about Greenland is more interesting than ever – not least with Donald Trump and the United States' great interest in the country northern country.
But now, Vivian Motzfeldt, who is in charge of foreign affairs and research in the new government, has made a startling announcement.
Greenland should not look to the West, but instead increase cooperation with China to the East, she said in an interview with Berlingske.
- China is very important to us, and we are eager to strengthen our cooperation, she says.
It is unclear which areas are specifically in question in relation to future cooperation.
But Vivian Motzfeldt traveled to China in 2023, where she met with the country's then Deputy Minister of Trade and Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs.
The meeting was interpreted as a success and, among other things, it was about cooperation between the two countries on fishing and tourism.

However, I know that deals with Trump tend to be bad!
Big Law firms that cut deals with Trump made a big blunder (The Hill, April 17, 2025)
Trump's minerals deal: Bad for Ukraine, bad for climate (GlobalWitness, April 10, 2025)
Business career of Donald Trump: Business bankruptcies (Wikipedia)
Business career of Donald Trump: Trump University (Wikipedia)
10 Reasons Why Trump is Bad for Business (Aug 16, 2024)
We have created a deck and the memo below that lays out 10 ways a Trump-Vance Administration should make business leaders shudder:
  1. Across-the-Board Tariffs
  2. Politicized Federal Reserve
  3. Weak US dollar
  4. Mass deportations
  5. Worker visa restrictions
  6. Debt explosion
  7. Stunted manufacturing
  8. Loss of safe harbor premium
  9. CEO threats
  10. Unstable rule of law

And unlike deals with Trump, deals with China appear to be good for the climate!
China is exporting more clean tech to developing countries - with consequences for global climate policy (NZZ, Feb 10, 2025)
The EU is making access to its markets more difficult for electric cars, solar panels and wind turbines from China. Meanwhile more and more of these products are finding buyers in the global South.
New Chinese donation will allow the addition of 120 megawatts of electricity generation this year (Granma.cu, Mar 20, 2025)
The first shipment of inputs for the execution of the project, a product of the cooperation between Cuba and the People's Republic of China, is already being distributed to the territories where they will be located.

If I were the governor of Puerto Rico, I would consider asking Xi to help me out. Puerto Rico's problems in this respect appear to be somewhat similar to Cuba's.
Power restored to more than half of Puerto Rico after island-wide blackout (TheGuardian, April 17, 2025)
About 58% of Puerto Rico has has had power restored following an island-wide blackout on Wednesday, the government of Puerto Rico federal affairs administration said on Thursday.
It added that current generation stands at 1,439MW. A total of 31 generation units are online, with 16 additional units in the process of being brought back online, it said.
 
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It depends on what they can get away with. Small Pacific islands find they suddenly have a naval base and scores of military for training purposes. The loans can be more than the small economies are going to be able to repay.
Yes, things like that would never happen when small island nations make deals with the West, would they?!

Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (Wikipedia)
From forced evictions to Vance's visit, Greenland base encapsulates history of Denmark-US relations (LeMonde, March 28, 2025)
On Friday, the US vice president was scheduled to visit the only remaining US military base in Greenland. Its history has been peppered with controversy, fueling locals' grievances against Copenhagen.
While its presence is no longer questioned today, "the base is still very emblematic for the bad blood and unfortunate history surrounding the Danish and the American presence in Greenland," said Jon Rahbek-Clemmensen, research director at the Center for Arctic Security Studies in Copenhagen.

Are you sure that you aren't merely repeating the Trump administration's talking points, i.e. MAGA propaganda?
China’s Plans for Greenland & Other Myths (U.S.-China Perception Monitor, Feb 18, 2025)
It appears that China (along with Russia) is a grave threat to Greenland and American interests there. So said former Trump National Security Council staffer Alexander Grey, who explained that China was “preposterously” calling itself a “near Arctic power” and under the guise of what China calls the “Polar Silk Road” is attempting to do in the far north what it is has “long done in Africa, Southeast Asia, and the Pacific: undermine sovereignty of developing states at the expense of regional and global security.” In subsequent testimony Gray explained that he had seen this “personally” in the South Pacific, though it happens in many other regions also. He claimed China uses “predatory lending” and “usurious interest rates” to fund “white elephant projects that very often serve no economic purpose” other than to ensnare other countries in “debt trap diplomacy” through which the CCP exercises “coercive political control over small developing states.” Gray went on to explain that Greenland’s future independence from Denmark will leave a vacuum in Greenland, the “100% predictable outcome” of which will be China and Russia filling that vacuum.
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These fears sparked investigations, and the investigators came to conclusions: debt trap diplomacy was a myth.
All the way back in 2019, Deborah Brautigam of John’s Hopkins University’s China-Africa Center, explained how this myth—she called it a meme because of the way it spread—moved from an Indian Think-Tank to Harvard to the New York Times to the U.S. Government in record time. After examining case after case of Chinese investment around the globe, and a database of more than 1,000 Chinese loans to Africa she found no examples where the Chinese “deliberately entangled another country in debt” nor used that debt for any strategic advantage.
Google says that "The U.S.-China Perception Monitor is published by the Carter Center, a 501(c)(3), not-for-profit, nongovernmental organization founded in 1982 in Atlanta." I know nothing else about it, but the Carter Center (Wikipedia) doesn't appear to be a Chinese propaganda outlet.
 
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How so ?
Do the Chinese renege on the deals or are the terms of the deals so skewed in their favour so they may as well renege ?
Do the Chinese fail to deliver or do they deliver what they're contracted to deliver - but not what's actually needed ?
I would also like to see these questions answered - with more than generalized postulates.
It is hard to tell propaganda from facts when you consult professor Google about this.

This one is about ordinary business deals, not deals between nations. The first post looks pretty straight-forward, not propagandistic, but the replies make me doubt that it is:
Why can’t the Chinese be trusted doing business with? (Quora)
 
It depends on what they can get away with. Small Pacific islands find they suddenly have a naval base and scores of military for training purposes. The loans can be more than the small economies are going to be able to repay.
While I agree that deals with China are probably not a good idea, I think it is also a question of how the deals are made. China has no problem paying bribery to get their deals, and so the deals can be a lot worse than they would need to be. African countries have found that it was only Chinese that got the well-paid positions in the enterprises set up as part of the deal, whereas the Africans were expected to do the menial tasks, sometimes under slave-like conditions, under control of Chinese masters.

And Chinese investments have indeed dried up, and left projects unfinished, which could be seen as reneging on the deal, except nobody outside the inner circles know exactly what the deal really was.

But I think that deals carefully scrutinised, and not supported by corruption could become good deals.

If a country ends up with a debt that can’t be repaid, then the deal was bad from the start, and should never have been made, but as I said, if the politicians are corrupt, then bad deals can be made, because these politicians will get rich, which is what the main purpose of the deal was for them.

My sources are from the German TV documentaries called Weltspiegel, so I have no links.
 
Yes, things like that would never happen when small island nations make deals with the West, would they?!

Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (Wikipedia)


Are you sure that you aren't merely repeating the Trump administration's talking points, i.e. MAGA propaganda?

Google says that "The U.S.-China Perception Monitor is published by the Carter Center, a 501(c)(3), not-for-profit, nongovernmental organization founded in 1982 in Atlanta." I know nothing else about it, but the Carter Center (Wikipedia) doesn't appear to be a Chinese propaganda outlet.


Chagos Islands.
 
My sources are from the German TV documentaries called Weltspiegel, so I have no links.
Don't give up so soon. Weltspiegel is from the German media ARD (or Das Erste). I found this, but it can't be what you are referring to:
When did you see the documentaries you are talking about? I found the following by googling Weltspiegel China Afrika Geschäfte
Could it be this? Chinas Afrika-Strategie: Mehr Geschäft als Entwicklungshilfe (Sep 4, 2024)

Or this? China-Kredite für Afrika laut aktueller Studie besonders Teuer (May 5, 2023)

Another one (but not ARD): China in Afrika: Mit offenen Karten (arte on YouTube, Dec 28, 2018 - 11:55 min.)
This one has a couple of comparisons with the USA and Europe.
 
Thanks for the links.
Weltspiegel has had several documentaries over several years, and I believe the one that made the biggest impression was one from before Covid.

I have now read the two ARD articles. I think that the one about China as a money lender is pretty typical of the way Western media in general treats the issue of China.

China-Kredite:
Afrikanische Staaten zahlen ... an chinesische Geldgeber deutlich höhere Zinsen als an andere öffentliche Finanzinstitute wie die Weltbank. China setze im Schnitt 3,2 Prozent an Zinsen an.
Bei den übrigen öffentlichen Gläubigern - von der Weltbank über den Internationalen Währungsfonds bis hin zu einzelnen Staaten - liege der Schnitt bei nur 1,1 Prozent. Kredite aus Deutschland und Frankreich seien mit durchschnittlich 1,7 Prozent verhältnismäßig teuer. Japan hingegen biete mit nur 0,5 Prozent die günstigsten Kreditzinsen.
Deutlich teurer wird es für die afrikanischen Staaten, wenn sie sich an private Geldgeber wenden. Dann seien Kreditzinsen von bis zu zehn Prozent fällig. Zu den Gläubigern gehören in erster Linie die Käufer afrikanischer Staatsanleihen, etwa Investmentfonds. Im Durchschnitt liegt die Verzinsung privater Investoren bei 6,2 Prozent, so das IfW.
The question I ask myself when I read something like this is: So why the hell don't African nations borrow all the money from Japan instead of from China? Or from the World Bank? The article doesn't say, but I assume that it's because those other money lenders aren't willing to lend those African nations enough, which is why those nations resort to borrowing money from China - or even from private investment fonds, which are even more expensive. It looks as if China's interest rates are cheaper than the interest rates of hedge funds, which I assume is the reason why the African nations prefer to borrow money from China instead of from private enterprise when they can't borrow more money from Japan or European nations.

So what is the problem?
"Das Wachstum auf Pump kann gefährlich werden", meint Wirtschaftsexperte James Shikwati aus Kenia. In dieser Phase sei es noch zu früh, um von Abhängigkeit zu sprechen. Aber man solle sich die Verträge, die China mit afrikanischen Staaten abgeschlossen hat, genauer angucken. Shikwati befürchtet: "Wenn wir nicht zurückzahlen können, besteht die Möglichkeit, dass China kontrollieren will, was in den Ländern passiert."
Yes, we all know: Borrowing money comes at a cost, in particular when you can't pay it back.
But for some reason, the article doesn't seem to think that private investment fonds and Western countries would want to control what is happening in African debtor nations.
At least, it doesn't mention that possibility at all!
And competition is supposed to be good, isn't it? It's what the West has been saying for the past 80 years or so. So why is it suddenly bad when there is even more competition, more money lenders to choose from?
I would really, really like to know because I don't think the article explains why it's so bad that China is now also in the game.

Chinas Afrika-Strategie:
Mehr Investition ins Grüne Energien
"Es werden von China eher kleinere Projekte finanziert, bei denen das Ausfallrisiko nicht so groß ist", so Kintzinger. Außerdem suche sich Peking nun bei der Kreditvergabe meist weitere, oft kommerzielle, internationale Partner. "Das hat auch den Vorteil, bei Forderungen nach einem Schuldenschnitt nicht einziger Adressat zu sein." Die Kreditkonditionen ähneln nach Analyse des IfW oft kommerziellen Krediten - mit höheren Zinsen als die Kreditpakete der Weltbank. Es geht also mehr um Geschäft als reine Entwicklungsprojekte.
So will China nun auch Investitionen in afrikanische Kohleenergie- und Ölförderprojekte verringern und dafür mehr grüne Energien fördern. Praktischerweise kann Peking gleich die Solarpaneele dazu liefern - ein neuer lukrativer Markt. In vielen Bereichen sind chinesische Firmen längst ein fester Bestandteil der Wirtschaft zahlreicher afrikanischer Länder geworden. Auch wenn der Geldbeutel in Peking bei der Kreditvergabe längst nicht mehr so locker sitzt.
First of all, I think it's great that China prefers to support sustainable energy. American companies appear to be much too willing to support coal and oil extraction.
Vor internationalen Journalisten zählt Xu Jianping von der Staatlichen Kommission für Entwicklung und Reform, die auch für Wirtschaftsbeziehungen zuständig ist, vor allem die großen Infrastrukturprojekte in Afrika auf. Mehr als 1.000 Brücken, fast 100 Häfen und 10.000 Kilometer Bahnstrecke habe China in den vergangenen 25 Jahren in Afrika gebaut. Die Botschaft: China helfe dem Kontinent beim Sprung in ein neues Zeitalter. Allerdings nicht umsonst: Die Projekte sind schuldenfinanziert, und manche von ihnen rechnen sich nicht.
I also think that railroads are good, and so are bridges and harbors. That some of those projects don't pay off, is nothing new, but I would like to see how China handles the fact that they don't pay off. Will China act the way Western countries used (use?) to act?, i.e. will China take advantage of those debtor countries and begin to make demands that will harm the populations of those countries? I can see why the suspicion would arise: Why wouldn't China treat Africa the way Western nations have done for a couple of hundred years? But is it actually what is happening?
I don't know!
But it's not what the article I linked to in post 766 says. It says that debt trap diplomacy is a myth. Or at least, that it was a myth six years ago:
All the way back in 2019, Deborah Brautigam of John’s Hopkins University’s China-Africa Center, explained how this myth—she called it a meme because of the way it spread—moved from an Indian Think-Tank to Harvard to the New York Times to the U.S. Government in record time. After examining case after case of Chinese investment around the globe, and a database of more than 1,000 Chinese loans to Africa she found no examples where the Chinese “deliberately entangled another country in debt” nor used that debt for any strategic advantage.
 
The question I ask myself when I read something like this is: So why the hell don't African nations borrow all the money from Japan instead of from China? Or from the World Bank? The article doesn't say, but I assume that it's because those other money lenders aren't willing to lend those African nations enough, which is why those nations resort to borrowing money from China - or even from private investment fonds, which are even more expensive. It looks as if China's interest rates are cheaper than the interest rates of hedge funds, which I assume is the reason why the African nations prefer to borrow money from China instead of from private enterprise when they can't borrow more money from Japan or European nations.
It's because China puts itself in those spaces. They look around for help, and there's China, smiling and offering them the money. That's what soft power is. China has been doing it for decades. So has the US, until very recently.
 
It's because China puts itself in those spaces. They look around for help, and there's China, smiling and offering them the money. That's what soft power is. China has been doing it for decades. So has the US, until very recently.
China "puts itself in those spaces." That sounds very suspicious and ominous, doesn't it?! What "spaces" are we talking about exactly? And how does China "put itself" in them?
And China is even "smiling" while "offering" African nations money?I t's common knowledge that only a Bond villain would do that!

Come on, arthwollipot! I can't believe you can't come up with something better than this!

Yes.
No. The US until very recently has been conducting hard power ever since the end of WW II.
Both China and the USA have been using hard as well as soft power for decades. One of the institutions in charge of soft power has been the USAID, responsible for creating goodwill. And the USAID is not alone in this. You never know who's behind sponsoring dogsled races, for instance.
What appears to be goodwill projects have often been used as a cover for hard-power operations, like when a fake hepatitis vaccination campaign was used to track down Osama bin Laden. The creativity of those ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊! Beware of Americans bearing gifts, not least when they are the sons of presidents.
More examples of USAID 'soft power' in the Cuba thread.
 
China "puts itself in those spaces." That sounds very suspicious and ominous, doesn't it?! What "spaces" are we talking about exactly? And how does China "put itself" in them?
And China is even "smiling" while "offering" African nations money?I t's common knowledge that only a Bond villain would do that!

Come on, arthwollipot! I can't believe you can't come up with something better than this!
Out of the two of us, which has worked in the international aid and development industry and therefore knows what he's talking about?
 
You claim to know what you are talking about, and yet you can't come up with anything better than that?!
Pathetic!

The author of the article I linked to, i.e. China’s Plans for Greenland & Other Myths (U.S.-China Perception Monitor, Feb 18, 2025), is this guy:
David Fields is Associate Director of the Center for East Asian Studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is the author of Foreign Friends: Syngman Rhee, American Exceptionalism, and the Division of Korea (University Press of Kentucky, 2019) and the editor of The Diary of Syngman Rhee, (published by the Museum of Contemporary Korean History, 2015,) and Divided America, Divided Korea: The US and Korea During and After the Trump Years(Cambridge University Press, 2024).
And he offers much less sinister explanations for what China has been doing:
A 2023 study of Chinese investment abroad by Boston University scholars came up with a much less alarmist and more sensible explanation of China’s investment binge: China had cash on hand and overcapacity in its infrastructure sector. Much of the developing world needed both cash and infrastructure. It was that simple. There is no more strategy (malevolent or benevolent) behind it than that. The findings are so clear, the scholars specifically recommended that U.S. policy makers stop using the term “debt trap diplomacy.” The study also revealed that for better or worse, the heyday of Chinese investment seems to have peaked in 2016 or 2017 and has dropped precipitously since. A 2024 review of jstor.org articles on the topic of Chinese debt trap diplomacy came to the same conclusion: it is a myth.
What do you have to offer? That China is "smiling and offering them the money!"
And so ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ what?! Can it possibly get any more childish than that?!

And unlike you, he actually has references. He doesn't simply make up stuff like you do and then claim that he "knows what he's talking about."

You could have answered my questions, but instead you resort to saying: I'm somebody who knows a lot about this!
Duh!

By the way, so far I haven't heard about any negative experiences with the Chinese presence in Greenland. Smiling hasn't been mentioned once!
In Denmark, people have been told to be on the lookout for Chinese doing industrial espionage. I don't know if there's anything to steal in that respect in Greenland. I don't think dogsled technology is a secret. Recipes for kiviak are open source, and I doubt that the Chinese feel tempted to steal them.
 
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Danish king to visit Greenland in show of unity amid Trump interest (Reuters, April 23, 2025)

HM The King visits Greenland (Kongehuset.dk, April 23, 2025)
On Monday, 28 April 2025, His Majesty The King will travel to Greenland in the company of the Prime Minister of Greenland, Jens-Frederik Nielsen.
In the capital, Nuuk, His Majesty will meet with members of the newly appointed Government of Greenland, among others.
Following the visit in Nuuk, His Majesty continues to Station Nord – the northernmost military and scientific station in Greenland, where The King will be accompanied by Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defence of Denmark, Troels Lund Poulsen. The King concludes his visit in Greenland with the SIRIUS Dog Sled Patrol.
 
US Congress unlikely to back a Greenland invasion, top Democrat says (Reuters, April 25, 2025)
"I don't believe that there is real bipartisan support in the Congress to aggressively move on Greenland," Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, the leader of Democrats in the House of Representatives, told reporters in Copenhagen during a visit by a group of Congress members.
"You'll have to ask our Republican colleagues, but I haven't seen serious Republican members of Congress weigh in support of the notion that we should somehow invade Greenland," he added.
The U.S. Congressional delegation included members of both parties although no Republicans spoke at a press event held after they met Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen.
Hakeem Jeffries Holds Press Briefing During CODEL In Denmark (Forbes on YouTube, April 25, 2025 - 25:16 min.)
A couple of MAGA comments (I assume):
"Who is paying for this? Undermining President Trump. Clown."
"Painfully embarrassing to listen to congressional representatives who are not ambassadors being insubordinate and pulling a stunt like this."
"What about being that responsible adult and talking and bringing your ideas in your own country. Seems a little bit like traitors"

Danish king's Greenland trip amid Trump interest pushed back a day (yahoo!news/Reuters, April 28, 2025)
Denmark's King Frederik on Monday pushed back by one day a visit to Greenland planned to underscore unity with the Danish territory in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's interest in taking over the huge Arctic island.
The royal palace in Copenhagen said the trip was now expected to begin on Tuesday following the closure of the island's main airport on Monday because of stormy weather.
 
Greenland is ‘worried’ U.S. will invade: Dem sounds alarm on Trump’s annex talk (MSNBC on YouTube, April 28, 2025 - 5:39 min.)
Greenland and Denmark have affirmed their alliance amid President Trump's interest in acquiring the territory. Democratic representative from California, Laura Friedman, discusses what she heard from Greenland officials when a congressional delegation met with them in Denmark. She also reacts to the protest held by Democrats on the U.S. Capitol steps, gives her thoughts on Trump's approval rating sinking to historic lows in recent polling, and explains what Democrats can do to combat the Trump administration's deportation efforts.

3:32--> You were part of a Congressional delegation that went to Denmark, and you met with Greenland's officials there. What did you learn? What did they tell you about either the likelihood or their desire to join up with the United States?
- We heard from every person we spoke to, every elected official, every member of the press. We met with the prime minister, the foreign minister. We met with a representative of the indigenous population of Greenland. Resoundingly and overwhelmingly, they do not want to be part of the United States. And they are very worried that we're going to invade. And this is not a joke to them.
I was frankly surprised at how worried and anxious the elected representatives and the people of Denmark are right now. They believe that there is a chance that they're going to be at war with the United States. They actually think that we're going to invade Denmark and try to take Greenland by force.
And why do they believe that? Because Donald Trump has signaled that that might happen. We tried to reassure them that congress is a co-equal branch of government. It's up to us if we're going to declare war or invade another sovereign nation, a democracy, an ally. But they're still worried, quite honestly.

King of Denmark visits Greenland as Trump eyes strategic Arctic island (AP on YouTube, April 30, 2025 - 46 sec.)
King Frederik X of Denmark arrived in Greenland on Tuesday, kicking off a visit to the semiautonomous territory that U.S. President Donald Trump wants to annex because of its strategic Arctic location.
 
WELKER: You are not ruling out military force to take Greenland?

TRUMP: I don't rule out anything. No. Not there. We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people which we'll take of and we'll cherish them and all of that. But we need that for international security.

 
Taylor Tomlinson Talks Princess Isabella’s Cell Phone Royal Portrait (After Midnight with Taylor Tomlinson on YouTube, May 6, 2025 - 4:17 min.)
Taylor Tomlinson covers some of this past weekend’s biggest news including Denmark’s Princess Isabella getting her official royal portrait done while holding her phone, the Kentucky Derby, and Trump’s plan to impose 100% tariffs on foreign films.
I am not an expert on royals, but I think that Princess Isabella should be taught to eat kiviak (Polarpedia) before they find an authentic Greenlander to marry her off to. I mean, isn't that already the royal thing to do? To strengthen the bond between territories by means of intermarriage? I wouldn't be surprised if the King of the USA had already proposed a similar transaction to Barron. Think of the headlines of that story!

Next, the Danish royal family should find a Faroe Islander for Prince Vincent. They must feel so ignored at this point, and Putin already has his eye on the Faroes.
I don't understand why the government let King Frederik marry a chick from Tasmania instead of an Inuit. I mean, what's up with that? Why would anybody want to strengthen relations with Tasmania of all places, unless the point was to steal the island from Australia, which doesn't look like a good idea since "34% of Tasmanians are reliant on welfare payments as their primary source of income," according to to Wiki.

In fact, I don't see why kiviak isn't already being served as the main course all royal banquets. As Polarpedia tells us, the Danish word for auk, the main ingredient of kiviak, is søkonger, i.e. sea kings. I can't think of a dish more royal than that!

 
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The USA escalates espionage against Greenland and Denmark

U.S. Orders Intelligence Agencies to Step Up Spying on Greenland (Wall Street Journal, May 6, 2025)

United States to 'step up espionage' on Denmark and Greenland as part of takeover goal (TheLocal.dk, May 7, 2025)

Denmark to summon US envoy over report of Greenland spying directive (TheGuardian, May 7, 2025)
CIA, NSA and Defense Intelligence Agency all included in ‘collection emphasis message’, report says
Denmark has said that it will summon the US ambassador to Copenhagen to respond to reports that US intelligence agencies have been ordered to increase espionage in Greenland.
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High-ranking officials working under Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, issued the instruction to agency heads in a “collection emphasis message”, the Journal reported.
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The Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency were all included in the message. It told chiefs to study Greenland’s independence movement and attitudes to American efforts to extract resources on the island, according to the Journal, citing two unnamed officials familiar with the matter.
Seasoned intelligence operatives say the Arctic island of about 56,000 inhabitants has not historically been a target of US espionage activity.

Løkke indkalder amerikansk ambassadør efter historier om spionage mod Grønland (DR.dk, May 7, 2025)
Løkke [the Danish minister of foreign affairs] summons the U.S. ambassador after reports about espionage against Greenland

Grønland skal 'vågne op nu' (DR.dk, May 7, 2025 - CET 18:30)
Greenland nees to 'wake up now'

Grønlandsk politiker: Man bør overveje at lukke amerikansk konsulat (DR.dk, May 7, 2025 - CET 19:09)
Formanden for det udenrigs- og sikkerhedspolitiske udvalg i det grønlandske parlament, Pipaluk Lynge, overvejer at tage drastiske skridt mod USA.
For grønlandske og danske politikere bør overveje, om man skal lukke det amerikanske konsulat i Grønlandsk hovedstad, Nuuk, siger hun.
- Jeg synes, de grønlandske politikere skal sætte sig sammen og overveje det spørgsmål.
- Man skal tale om Trumps administration, som den er. Det er en ulv i fåreklæder. Er Nato det samme som før? Det tror jeg ikke, når man spionerer mod hinanden, siger hun.
USA åbnede et konsulat i Nuuk i 2020. Det er for nylig blevet udvidet.
Greenlandic politician: One should consider closing down the U.S. consulate
The chairman of the Foreign and Security Policy Committee in the Greenlandic parliament, Pipaluk Lynge, is considering taking drastic steps against the USA.
Because Greenlandic and Danish politicians should consider closing down the American consulate in the Greenlandic capital, Nuuk, she says.
- I think Greenlandic politicians should sit down and consider this issue.
- We should talk about Trump's administration as it is. It is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Is NATO still what it used to be? I don't think so, when you spy on each other, she says.
The United States opened a consulate in Nuuk in 2020. It has recently been expanded.

ETA: 14 minutes ago:
Grønlænder: Jeg har været bange, siden Trump blev præsident (DR.dk, May 7, 2025)
Greenlander: I've been afraid since Trump became the president
 
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Denmark summons US ambassador over Greenland spying report (BBC, May 8, 2025)
"It worries me greatly because we do not spy on friends," Lars Løkke Rasmussen said, responding to the report in The Wall Street Journal.
According to the newspaper, US spy agencies were told to focus efforts on the semi-autonomous country's independence movement, and American goals to extract mineral resources there.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard accused the Journal of attempts to "undermine" President Trump "by politicizing and leaking classified information".
Tulsy Gabbard appears to have learned about crisis management from Pete Hegseth: The scandal isn't what the Trump administration has told their spy agencies to do against other countries. It's what somebody has done to her and Trump by leaking what the USA is now doing:
Tulsi Gabbard Freaks Over Damning Report U.S. Is Spying on Greenland (The New Republic, May 7, 2025)
The U.S. is increasing its espionage in Greenland as part of Donald Trump’s campaign to take control of the island.
Donald Trump’s quest to conquer Greenland is becoming increasingly serious.
(...)
The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed of aiding deep state actors who seek to undermine the President by politicizing and leaking classified information,” Gabbard told the Journal in a statement. “They are breaking the law and undermining our nation’s security and democracy.”

On Sunday, Trump said:
"I don't say I'm going to do it, but I don't rule out anything," he said. "We need Greenland very badly. Greenland is a very small amount of people, which we'll take care of, and we'll cherish them, and all of that. But we need that for international security."
(...)
"What the hell's going on here? What president ever talks like that? That's not who we are," Biden told the BBC's Nick Robinson.
"We're about freedom, democracy, opportunity, not about confiscation."
However, that appears to be exactly who you are.

Denmark FURIOUS With America Over Spying (PDS News Clips on YouTube, May 7, 2025)
The Wall Street Journal reported that the US is seeking to identify people who support an American takeover, right, and to likely manufacture a movement or stage a coup of some sort. Notably, this is also happening as Greenlanders are reporting that a lot of American-made Facebook groups are popping up and trying to appear as if they're actual Greenlanders and try to probe for opinions on the U.S.
 
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For the time being, I think it's more a question of establishing what appears to be a movement demanding independence.
You know the drill: 'Greenlanders are being oppressed by Denmark and have asked the USA to help liberate them from the Danish terror regime.'

Trump Urges US Spies to Uncover Greenland's Stance on Annexation (UpToMails New York on YouTube, May 7, 2025 - 3:08 min)
0:10--> American intelligence leaders have been instructed to gather more information about Greenland's independence movement and its attitude towards an increased US presence. These classified instructions revealed by the Wall Street Journal specifically task agency chiefs with using spies and electronic tools to identify individuals in Greenland and Denmark who support Trump's goals. The aim is to gather insights into Greenland's secession movement and its perspective on US resource extraction.
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0:56--> Since his first term, Trump and his advisers have anticipated that the majority of Greenland'sapproximately 57,000 residents who are mainly Inuit would vote for independence and then form a free association agreement with the US. Under thisagreement Washington would provide defense and other benefits to Greenland.
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1:27--> Gabbard remarked: "The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed for supporting deep state individuals who seek to undermine the

president by leaking and politicizing classified information. This violates the law and undermines our national security and democracy. We will make every effort to determine the source of these illegal leaks and ensure they face the appropriate legal consequences. I havealready referred three leaks to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution, and we are actively investigating nearly a dozen more.

However, "Greenland's stance on annexation" is already well known. That's not really the point. The point is to find a way to subvert that stance and create the appearance of a movement that the USA can then be seen to step in and help fight the alleged Danish oppression.
It's an old U.S. tradition!

 
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Interesting video!
Yeah, former U.S. ambassador to Denmark, Carla Sands, makes a good attempt at supporting the current administration:
1:42--> Sands: You know, I just read it in the paper like you did, John. It's a surprise to me, but as a matter of fact, I wouldn't call it spying. I mean, Denmark and Greenland are great allies of the United States. I would just call it learning about Greenland, the Greenlandic people. They're wonderful, but a lot of Americans including in the US government don't know much about Greenland.
If the U.S. intelligence agencies were simply trying to get to learn about the wonderful Greenlanders, I don't see why Tulsi Gabbard would be so busy accusing people within those agencies of "leaking and politicizing classified information" (see post 791). Why get up in arms if all they had been told to do was to help a notoriously knowledgable and inquisitive president learn more about the ways and customs of the indigenous population of Greenland?

I am surprised that Rasmus Jarlov, a former (!) minister of business affairs for the Conservative Party, is as outspoken as he is:
I doubt that a current minister would dare say the things I have highlighted here:
3:32--> Jarlov: I am very sure that the former American ambassador is not at all surprised like she's saying. It's very, very clear what the Americans want:
They want to dominate Greenland. They want to take their natural resources. They have no interest in the people of Greenland at all.
What they want is to take control and rip the land of its resources. And the way to do that is not going to be a military invasion because that would be too insane even, even for the current American government. So now they will try instead to influence. They will try to delegitimize Denmark's presence in Greenland, uh, so in the in the future you will hear more and more stories being pushed about Greenland, and they will be false.
You already heard many times the false story about how Russia and China are threatening Greenland, which is not true. They don't have any presence there. They don't have any mining, no consulate, no activities, nothing there, but still the American government is pushing a story that they're almost about to take over Greenland.
You will hear stories about how Denmark is mistreating the indigenous people in Greenland, which is pretty thick coming from a country with a history of indigenous people like the United States, considering that Greenland is the only country in the Americas where the indigenous people has been given their own country. And you will hear stories about how Denmark is not developing Greenland, and how we are not extracting resources that could make the Greenlanders rich, which is also a false uh claim.
So more and more of those stories will come out, and they will link up with the separatists because they see, correctly, that Denmark stands between the United States taking control of Greenland. So they want to get Denmark out, and then they will have a formally - maybe in the future, the dream will be to to have - a formally independent Greenland that will be much easier to influence and ultimately to dominate, okay.
So, look, so that's the way forward and I think we can expect a lot of that in the future.
And when Sands starts lying again in defense of Trump, he gets even more confrontational.
9.04--> Jarlov: Well, the ambassador is is lying on on so many accounts. Here, it's just incredible. I mean the idea that Denmark, the idea that Denmark should have a surplus on on Greenland when we send about 800 million US dollars every year to Greenland as a direct subsidy and pay for a lot of other things, then the idea that we somehow have a surplus out of that because they buy groceries in Denmark for a little part of that money is pretty absurd and has been debunked many, many, many times.
The overseas territories of the United States have it much worse than, than Greenland has. We pay a lot more money to Greenland than the United States pay to their overseas territories. You can just go to American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, or wherever, and you can see that it's not a blessing to become dominated by the United States. They don't even have voting rights. I mean, it they have ...
Sands: We do not seek to dominate anyone.
Jarlov: Oh sure.
Sands: Not true.
Jarlov: And, and also the idea that China is taking over is completely absurd. China has no aspirations. The only threat to Greenland is the United States. And the idea that only the United States can afford to develop Greenland is also pretty absurd. You have so much depth [--> debt?]. The American citizenship, I don't know if you would even give that to the Greenlanders, but if you did, it comes with a starting price of a depth [debt?] of 110,000 US dollars, whereas Denmark is one of the most prosperous countries in the world with the highest quality of living in the world, so we can very well afford to to support Greenland as much as they want. And we're not going to accept that the Americans are lying and trying to [de?]legitimize ...
I tend to get a little queasy when, on rare occasions, I find myself agreeing with Conservatives, so let me point out that Jarlov's "as much as they want" is obviously hyperbolic. :)

By the way, I just love this one from Sands:
7:04--> President Trump looks at the world as it is, not as he wishes it was.
Maybe she hasn't seen the latest Trump gaffe about the history of Alcatraz based on an old Clint Eastwood movie ...
 
Denmark Warns Trump White House on Greenland Spying (Newsweek, May 9, 2025)
Greenlandic Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen told the newspaper Sermitsiaq: "To talk about espionage against an ally and partner, it is completely unacceptable. In addition, it is also disrespectful."
In response to questions about the Journal's report, DNI Tulsi Gabbard's office released a statement noting that she had made three "criminal" referrals to the Justice Department over intelligence community leaks. Nearly a dozen more leak cases are being investigated, Gabbard said in the statement.
Danish leader: 'You cannot spy against an ally' amid reports of US Greenland spying (ABC News, May 9, 2025)
Denmark Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen told The Associated Press “you cannot spy against an ally” after reports that the United States has stepped up intelligence gathering on Greenland, a semi-autonomous Danish territory coveted by U.S. President Donald Trump.
Frederiksen's comments Friday are the latest in the spat between Denmark, Greenland and the United States because Trump seeks to annex the strategic Arctic island. Denmark and Greenland insist that the mineral-rich island is not for sale, while Trump has not ruled out taking it by military force even though Denmark is a NATO ally.
The Danish prime minister spoke to the AP the day after Denmark summoned the top American diplomat in the country for an explanation
 
I'm pretty sure it takes more than a head of one country asking the inhabitants of a foreign territory if they'd like to join. Nations tend to take territorial claims seriously. Does anyone imagine that if Canada's PM invited Alaska to join Canada that they could say "yes" and it would happen?
 
I'm pretty sure it takes more than a head of one country asking the inhabitants of a foreign territory if they'd like to join. Nations tend to take territorial claims seriously. Does anyone imagine that if Canada's PM invited Alaska to join Canada that they could say "yes" and it would happen?
I don't think we should do that. They might actually say "yes", and we would be stuck with them.
 

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