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The Truth about RFK Jr

He actually seems to believe in a particular version of not germ theory. I think it's a common mistake for folks to make that their opposition is just dumb or ignorant. Often, intelligence and knowledge make the cranks better able to deny. If we come at them like they are just dumb, we will not convince anyone of anything.

ETA: Worth while for skeptics to keep in mind. Being smart and or well educated, can just make you better able to justify your pre-existing beliefs and if we knew what we were wrong about, we'd have already changed our minds. So, what are you wrong about?
This. A person can be smart and still belive batcrap crazy things. a lot of people here really have problems with that. Writing the kooks off as stupid is dangerous and wrong. Never underestimate your enemy.
There are number of people with MD's who beleive really crazy medical theories.
rfk jr is dumb and too bad if that hurts anyone's feelings.
 
This. A person can be smart and still belive batcrap crazy things. a lot of people here really have problems with that. Writing the kooks off as stupid is dangerous and wrong. Never underestimate your enemy.
There are number of people with MD's who beleive really crazy medical theories.

well you can continue to indulge their stupidity. not much comfort to a parent burying their child from a preventable disease. i'm much more concerned with protecting them than some moron's ego.

and if you don't like it too bad. you can be twice as nice to those mds killing kids to make up for it.
 
I think the majority of folks that use US homeopathy don't really understand what they premise is. I think most just think its herbal remedies.
Same with chiropractors, supposedly all disease stems from one's misalligned spinal column. Most believe the spinal column adjustments are for back pain. And I doubt many know chiropractors are anti-vaxxers.
 
RFK Jr on measles: "The MMR vaccine contains a lot of aborted fetus debris."

He has chosen a lie to disgust people into not using it since apparently the threat of death or permanent brain damage is not frightening enough.

I picture these anti-science people as having picked up whatever nonsense they believe like a baby duck imprints on an adult duck during a specific window after hatching when their brains are developing.
 
He has chosen a lie to disgust people into not using it since apparently the threat of death or permanent brain damage is not frightening enough.

I picture these anti-science people as having picked up whatever nonsense they believe like a baby duck imprints on an adult duck during a specific window after hatching when their brains are developing.
He doesn't see brain damage as a disability as his own damaged brain led to his current position as this country's leading health officer.
 
If I weren't tingly tipsy* I'd be throwing up in my mouth over reading how bad RFK Óg is effing up everything to do with medicine.

*A state where I'm pleasantly happy and my fingers & toes are tingly, and about three to five points before I get proper drunk and start extolling the virtues of Otto von Bismarck.
 
Some patients you never forget. In nursing school (mid-1970s) one patient I took care of (about 5 yrs old IIRC) was in a permanent vegetative state following a measles infection. Can you imagine waiting for weeks then months and then years for your child to wake up and they never do.
 
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I just hope vaccines, any vaccines, are still available for the sane people. Time to invest in PPE!
I'm working out the logistics of an operation to smuggle in fluoride pills. Because of the tariffs there will be revenooers all over the coast, it'll be back to 17th century tunnels and crap. Luckily I've still got about 50 old Hardy Boys books so I've got some source material on smuggling. And chums, whatever the heck that's for. Maybe the smugglers tip it into the sea to distract sharks?
 
I just hope vaccines, any vaccines, are still available for the sane people. Time to invest in PPE!
I was going to suggest getting vaccinated while on an overseas trip. Even Bermuda would do. But it's getting so that the Border Nazis are going to refuse US citizens re-entry if they have any evidence of being vaccinated at all. They are protecting the US's precious bodily fluids any way they can!
 
Same with chiropractors, supposedly all disease stems from one's misalligned spinal column. Most believe the spinal column adjustments are for back pain. And I doubt many know chiropractors are anti-vaxxers.
I think it depends on the chiropractors. I have heard some chiropractors who said sensible things about vaccines, and it turns out that they also don't believe in the use of adjustments. In which case, I wonder what it means for them to even be chiropractors.
 
well you can continue to indulge their stupidity. not much comfort to a parent burying their child from a preventable disease. i'm much more concerned with protecting them than some moron's ego.

and if you don't like it too bad. you can be twice as nice to those mds killing kids to make up for it.
I don;t get why you are ranting at me. I just pointed out how dangerous they are, and assuming they are stupid is dangerous.
They are crazy, yes, but not necessaryk stupid. That is what makes them dangerous.
 
I don;t get why you are ranting at me. I just pointed out how dangerous they are, and assuming they are stupid is dangerous.
They are crazy, yes, but not necessaryk stupid. That is what makes them dangerous.

because you agreed with someone saying we shouldn't be calling them stupid and should be examining our own beliefs instead, and added something to the effect of it's dangerous to call them stupid, they're actually smart but just believe weird stuff and quoted me in the post. i assumed that was directed at me, i don't agree with that and stated why.
 
Not sure whether this is best posted here, but the US 2024/25 flu season has had an unusually high rate of child deaths
  • Twelve pediatric deaths associated with seasonal influenza virus infection were reported this week, bringing the 2024-2025 season total to 216 pediatric deaths. This number of pediatric deaths exceeds the previous high reported for a regular (non-pandemic) season. The previous high of 207 was reported during the 2023-2024 season.
The figures are likely an underestimate.

Influenza vaccination rates in child population was low, 49% compared with 64% pre-pandemic.

I am aware that this is probably Biden's fault as decisions around promoting flu vaccination for 24/25 would have been made pre Trump's election. Almost certainly regression to the norm will mean the 25/26 season will have a lower mortality rate which Trump ? RFK will be able to claim as a success for their policies!
 

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