Trump's Second Term

Planigale said:
... (snip) Brexit became policy as the result of a popular vote, after a referendum even those politicians opposed to Brexit then had to accept the expressed will of the people and deliver Brexit to the best of their ability. (/snip)
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It should be remembered that the referendum was expressly merely 'advisory'.
The UK government did not, in law, have to implement it. Any referendum on overturning a constitutional question should have required a supermajority. IMO.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Sure, prosecute anyone who says people are entitled to have a lawyer defend them, and then prosecute all the defence lawyers for abetting their clients.

Do these guys think for even a nanosecond before they make stupid idle threats?
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I wouldn't want to trust my life or freedom to the idleness of threat, and it's their apparent stupidity that enables the complacency that has led us to this point.
 
Donal said:
Yes, centrists carrying water for right-wingers always say that. That's the point.

You know you can actually view their statements yourself, right? Thewy do the age old "both sides are bad" routine. They equate students not wanting their school to host the likes of Milo Yiannopolis or Donald Rumsfeld with people being black bagged off the street.
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I have frequently quoted their statements at this forum. Statements or actions indicating that both sides being wrong does not mean that one believes that both sides are equally wrong.
Skeptic Ginger said:
Or you could just check their sources yourself as SourceWatch links to them. :oldroll:
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That is exactly what I did.
 
Aridas said:
Free Speech! [JUST IN: Deputy Assistant to the President and "Counterterrorism Czar" Sebastian Gorka says anyone advocating for due process for Kilmar Abrego Garcia could be viewed as "aiding and abetting a terrorist" and be federally charged. (h/t Philip Germain)]
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This is one reason why organization such as FIRE are valuable, and the fact that both liberals and conservatives support them is an asset, not a liability.
 
Andy_Ross said:
He's planning on being President again himself, he won't groom a follow.
Dictators never do, how could they be trusted?
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But he ever wanted to do the whole 4 years either time. Could be he plans to golf past the 2026 election and not do much. But then he would need to put in active people to continue the noble work to kill everything going to citizens. Because they are all guilty for letting Biden win in 2020. Even MAGA, they did not dig up enough dead relatives to vote in place of.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Quite: there are many reasons why my great-grandfather, who was the last coal face worker in my family (official title "hewer"), made damn sure that his 3 sons got out of the mines and that none of us have gone back since. And that was well before the Durham coal fields were closed.
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My grandfather, who also worked as a hewer in Durham coalfields before becoming a foreman and an NUM official was equally insistent that both of his children - my Mum and uncle, got a good education and safe indoor jobs with no heavy lifting.

He was also thrilled when I was accepted at Bristol University but sadly died before I could go.
 
Tero said:
But he ever wanted to do the whole 4 years either time. Could be he plans to golf past the 2026 election and not do much. But then he would need to put in active people to continue the noble work to kill everything going to citizens. Because they are all guilty for letting Biden win in 2020. Even MAGA, they did not dig up enough dead relatives to vote in place of.
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Him running in 2024 was down to getting out of legal trouble, the ability to exact revenge on enemies foreign and domestic is primarily an added bonus.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Steve Bannon: We're working on 5 or 6 different alternatives for how Trump could run again and be president…I continue to say that on the afternoon of January 20th, 2029, Donald Trump is going to be president for his third term.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912193386813042995
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Prediction, there isn't going to be a third term, nor will there be an election in 2028.

There might be a plebiscite with a ballot like this one:
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With men in brown shirts standing in the poll booths to ensure that the ballots are correctly filled out.
 
The Don said:
My grandfather, who also worked as a hewer in Durham coalfields before becoming a foreman and an NUM official was equally insistent that both of his children - my Mum and uncle, got a good education and safe indoor jobs with no heavy lifting.

He was also thrilled when I was accepted at Bristol University but sadly died before I could go.
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The family of my grandad on my dad's side were Cleveland ironstone miners.
It didn't work like coal mining as far as employment went but the conditions were just as harsh..
At Morrisons Mine where they worked it was usual to work as three man teams. You were paid by the ton of ironstone you got out (with deductions for the weight of anything in your tubs that weren't ironstone, that was to top you just filling with shale). Families or friends would partner up, one hewing and two filling by turns. They only worked three or four days a week as they also ran a small farm, when they were busy on the farm just one or two of them would sign on a shift and team up with others.

They made sure my grandad, the youngest of the family, wasn't a miner, he got set on as an apprentice blacksmith instead.
On my mothers side, my grandma's family were also miners at Lumpsey mine, her dad lost a foot in an accident and was paid off. He used his compensation to set up as a Bookie.

Brotton had three mines Lumpsey the biggest and longest lasting, Morrisons the oldest and first to close in the 30s and Cliff Pit that lasted to just before the war. All of them were connected underground and some faces were kept open and extracted through other shafts.
 
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FIRE's Angel Eduardo wrote, "They say that where Harvard goes, others follow. For the first time in a while, supporters of free expression on American campuses should hope that’s true...More importantly, if a school with such resources and influence doesn’t fight back against government strong-arming, it will send a chill down the spine of every other university in the Trump administration’s crosshairs."
 
jimbob said:
Not even that. Radical right wing authoritarians.

They are not trying to take us back to a past but take us to the sort of future imagined by various US science fiction authors (Jerry Pournelle for example, or Ayn Rand - which needed a perpetual motion machine to make her imaginary society work)
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And even then could only make it work through copious amounts of handwavium. Juat as the Trampy regime is going to have to apply.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
Prediction, there isn't going to be a third term, nor will there be an election in 2028.

There might be a plebiscite with a ballot like this one:
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With men in brown shirts standing in the poll booths to ensure that the ballots are correctly filled out.
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Is this a prediction or a wish?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Sure, prosecute anyone who says people are entitled to have a lawyer defend them, and then prosecute all the defence lawyers for abetting their clients.

Do these guys think for even a nanosecond before they make stupid idle threats?
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No, and they won't think for even a nanosecond before they carry out their stupid idle threats.
 
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