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Ed The Fascism Checklist, Trump 2025

Norman Alexander said:
In Australia, we are now being advised to take SIM-free burner phones and bare laptops if we travel to the USA. All our useful data should be in the cloud. It's worse than going to Russia, tbh.
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The company I used to work for made that a policy a couple of decades ago...

On no less than three separate occasions, our competition in the US 'somehow' found themselves in possession of our companies data after our employees laptops were 'taken away for inspection' during entry into the US...

In fact it became a 'sackable offence' for employees to have ANY data on their laptops while visiting or transiting the USA.... (not that that happened after the first couple of times, all international travel was routed through the Middle East or China rather than the US if traveling anywhere if possible)

Ironically, it was far less risky and the company data safer going through China than the US...

(the one occasion there was a minor leak from a Chinese company, they were given the 'rubber glove' inspection by the Chinese government, the US government on the other hand couldnt give a ◊◊◊◊, and the US companies were all 'sue us'- which can cost a Aussie company millions to do in the US, with little chance of success...)
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I hope people take that exile thing seriously. It is legal to deport a naturalized citizen if it can be proven that the obtaining of citizenship was itself fraudulent. But assuming no fraud, there is no second-class citizenship. What you do, do not do, become, or do not become after that is done as a citizen. There is no law or precedent in existence that makes naturalized citizenship a different thing from native citizenship, and one of the founding principles of our nation, and the revolution that brought it about, was opposition to the exile of citizens.

If a citizen is thrown out of the country, citizenship becomes ◊◊◊◊ and our country with it. I mean it. It's a tipping point.
 
bruto said:
I hope people take that exile thing seriously. It is legal to deport a naturalized citizen if it can be proven that the obtaining of citizenship was itself fraudulent. But assuming no fraud, there is no second-class citizenship. What you do, do not do, become, or do not become after that is done as a citizen. There is no law or precedent in existence that makes naturalized citizenship a different thing from native citizenship, and one of the founding principles of our nation, and the revolution that brought it about, was opposition to the exile of citizens.

If a citizen is thrown out of the country, citizenship becomes ◊◊◊◊ and our country with it. I mean it.
It's a tipping point.
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We're nearly there
 
In MAGAland, citizenship, with its rights and obligations and protections, is only for the rich, privileged, white Christians. The rest can either screw millions of tiny screws into iPhones for poverty wages, or go back to whatever ◊◊◊◊-hole country they came from.
 
Norman Alexander said:
In MAGAland, citizenship, with its rights and obligations and protections, is only for the rich, privileged, white Christians. The rest can either screw millions of tiny screws into iPhones for poverty wages, or go back to whatever ◊◊◊◊-hole country they came from.
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I am sure that rich privileged white Christians will not be deported, only dark-skinned American citizens.
 
If he starts deporting US citizens to the El Salvador prison, and refuses to abide by US court orders to reverse this, he has crossed the rubicon.
 
Hercules56 said:
If he starts deporting US citizens to the El Salvador prison, and refuses to abide by US court orders to reverse this, he has crossed the rubicon.
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He's already defying court orders to reverse the mistakes he's already made. He's standing on the other side of the Rubicon, grinning and wiping his ass with the Constitution.
 
bruto said:
He's already defying court orders to reverse the mistakes he's already made. He's standing on the other side of the Rubicon, grinning and wiping his ass with the Constitution.
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I think US citizens is the rubicon. Though I am not hopeful about any of this.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Let's everyone re-read Orwell's "Animal Farm".
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Slightly OT as it was the UK, but the same thing may be happening in the US. I was a bit shocked a few years back when one of the waitresses at the pub I was working at mentioned they were studying 'Animal Farm' for her English exams, (probably mis)quoted 'They looked from pigs to men and men to pigs but it became harder and harder to tell which was which' and she looked at me like I was mad, so I said that it was at least approximately the closing lines of the book. She told me they didn't study the whole book just extracts from it. What is the point studying a book like Animal Farm in bits so the message is lost?
 
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