The Truth about RFK Jr

Clear and present danger.

In an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made several unsupported or misleading claims about the measles vaccine, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said is safe and “the most important tool to prevent” the disease. Meanwhile, a measles outbreak in Texas continues to expand.

  • Kennedy said that the “vaccine wanes about 4.5% per year.” Although antibody levels can fall, there’s no evidence that overall vaccine protection declines that quickly. It would mean thousands of vaccinated people should have contracted measles in the latest outbreak.
  • The health secretary made the unsupported claim that the measles vaccine leads to “deaths every year” and misleadingly said it causes “all the illnesses” of the disease. The vaccine can cause some similar symptoms but is much safer than getting measles.
  • Kennedy misleadingly said the measles vaccine “does not appear to provide maternal immunity.” Evidence suggests that vaccinated mothers pass fewer protective antibodies on to their babies than previously infected moms, but in both cases this protection wanes before the infant’s first year. The best way to ensure babies don’t contract measles is to vaccinate everyone around them.
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Lying ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ liar lies.
 
Andy_Ross said:
This thread or the Trump one?

Don't go on a cruise ever again if you were thinking about it.


The CDC's cruise ship inspectors have been laid off, as well as agency's head epidemiologist for investigating cruise ship outbreaks
That baffled health officials since this program is paid for by cruise ship fees, not taxpayer dollars.

www.cbsnews.com

CDC's cruise ship inspectors laid off amid bad year for outbreaks

The steep cuts to the cruise ship inspection team baffled officials in the program, which is not paid for by taxpayer dollars.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
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Allows the companies to pad their profit margins. Remember, sacrificing America to his backers is all.
 
A 2008 entry at SBM: "...RFK Jr. almost single-handedly managed to stoke fears that vaccines were causing an “epidemic of autism.” I say “almost” single-handedly, because, unfortunately, he had help. Relying on the dubious research of a variety of investigators, such as the father-and-son team of Dr. Mark Geier and David Geier, whose prodigious output of badly designed studiesemanating from a lab in their home in suburban Maryland, done using a rubberstamp institutional review board stacked with friends and cronies to approve the studies, and published for the most part in non-peer-reviewed journals, activists loudly insisted that mercury in vaccines was the cause of most autism."
 
Chris_Halkides said:
A 2008 entry at SBM: "...RFK Jr. almost single-handedly managed to stoke fears that vaccines were causing an “epidemic of autism.” I say “almost” single-handedly, because, unfortunately, he had help. Relying on the dubious research of a variety of investigators, such as the father-and-son team of Dr. Mark Geier and David Geier, whose prodigious output of badly designed studiesemanating from a lab in their home in suburban Maryland, done using a rubberstamp institutional review board stacked with friends and cronies to approve the studies, and published for the most part in non-peer-reviewed journals, activists loudly insisted that mercury in vaccines was the cause of most autism."
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Except for the fact that no vaccines of any sort contained mercury in any form for the last 30-odd years. But facts...good story...blah blah blah.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Except for the fact that no vaccines of any sort contained mercury in any form for the last 30-odd years. But facts...good story...blah blah blah.
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One of the points that this article made was that, assuming the truth of the mercury hypothesis, the removal of thimerosal should have caused autism rates to go down, yet they did not. SBM quoted Eric Fombonne: "The particular significance of the study by Schechter and Grether is that it relies on the California Department of Developmental Services database, which has been systematically used by proponents of the thimerosal hypothesis to argue that the rising number of children accessing these services— or the “epidemic” of autism— was linked to the increasing exposure to ethylmercury of US children occurring in the 1990s through the changes in the immunization schedule. To the contrary, the data analyzed by Schechter and Grether9 provide a clear and unambiguous test that shows that the expected decline in autism rates following discontinuation of thimerosal in US vaccines did not occur."
 
Chris_Halkides said:
One of the points that this article made was that, assuming the truth of the mercury hypothesis, the removal of thimerosal should have caused autism rates to go down, yet they did not. SBM quoted Eric Fombonne: "The particular significance of the study by Schechter and Grether is that it relies on the California Department of Developmental Services database, which has been systematically used by proponents of the thimerosal hypothesis to argue that the rising number of children accessing these services— or the “epidemic” of autism— was linked to the increasing exposure to ethylmercury of US children occurring in the 1990s through the changes in the immunization schedule. To the contrary, the data analyzed by Schechter and Grether9 provide a clear and unambiguous test that shows that the expected decline in autism rates following discontinuation of thimerosal in US vaccines did not occur."
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He always gets ◊◊◊◊ backwards. Fact check his European measles claim and you find the outbreaks are in the least vaccinated regions and countries, Once again, the medical/scientific communites need to hound this stupid ◊◊◊◊ out of office.
 
I think everyone's thinking way too small here. Sure, RFK is going to get rid of vaccines and thus trigger a revival of many hideous diseases. But think about what he can add to our health! Thalidomide was very popular at one time, and cruel regulations communistically removed freedom from the market by regulating it away! RFK can bring it back! Has there been a single study in the past two years proving thalidomide is bad for you?
 
More dangerous stupidity from this idiot.

RFK: If you are healthy, it’s almost impossible for you to be killed by an infectious disease in modern times because we have nutrition, because we have access to medicines. It’s very, very difficult for any infectious disease to kill a healthy human being.

In 2019, 13.7 million people died globally from infectious disease and 3 million of those deaths were in children younger than 5 years, according to the March 2022 issue of The Lancet, Global Health. In 2023, COVID-19 alone contributed to 76,446 deaths in the United States. Each year an estimated 12,000-52,000 people die from influenza in this country, depending on the severity of the flu season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Infectious diseases remain a threat to healthy individuals, even with modern healthcare and a healthy diet. And if you contract measles, your likelihood of hospitalization is 1 in 5.


“Across the board, it’s 1 in 5 and in all cases of the measles 1 in 20 will get pneumonia, which is the major cause of death,” Fennelly said. “The virus itself is immunosuppressant, which knocks down our normal T- and B-cell responses, which can make an individual vulnerable to bacterial superinfection.”

Even in modern times infectious disease can still take a deadly toll, and without vaccinations, those numbers would be far worse. It’s just not a risk worth taking. “Healthy people die everyday from infectious diseases,” Higgins said.
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This sounds like a soft version of terrain theory, which I brought up near the beginning of the thread. I would respectfully point out that microorganisms evolve, making them moving targets, and that there are no non-vaccine medicines against some diseases such as measles, and there are some diseases that have so far eluded our ability to find vaccines.
 
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I think everyone's thinking way too small here. Sure, RFK is going to get rid of vaccines and thus trigger a revival of many hideous diseases. But think about what he can add to our health! Thalidomide was very popular at one time, and cruel regulations communistically removed freedom from the market by regulating it away! RFK can bring it back! Has there been a single study in the past two years proving thalidomide is bad for you?
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Well, if you're able to read this, you're already born. Thalidomide is not bad for you.
 
turingtest said:
Well, sure, but they weren't "healthy Americans"- by RFK's definition of "healthy" as "the ones the infection didn't kill." It's very difficult to reason with someone whose logic is a circle.
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And hey, about 99% of those who got it DIDN'T die! Too bad 1/3 of the population got it, of course, but hey, herd immunity!
I'd write my cousin Theresa about all this, but she was one of the 1%. Easter Sunday, 2020. RIP.
 
Incompetent, stupid mother ◊◊◊◊◊◊ says an imcompetently stupid mother ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ thing.

The health secretary, Robert F Kennedy Jr, said on a press tour that his response to a large measles outbreak in west Texas should be a “model for the world”. The statement came after Kennedy attended the funeral of a third measles victim over the weekend.

Kennedy’s response to the outbreak has been widely criticized by epidemiologists and public health experts, who argue he failed to give a full-throated endorsement of an extremely effective vaccine, that cases appear to be severely undercounted and that officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have been deployed late.
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He's got to go.
 
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