So what form does the resistance take?

Inspirational from Jason Pargin/David Wong: It's not that people aren't angry enough, it's that we're the wrong kind of angry:


Yes, you may be pissed and terrified, but are you the kind of pissed and terrified that gets you to go to town halls, participate in protests, and volunteer for organizations?
THIS, Butching on the interneet or social media alone is a easy out.
CHurchill said that Courage is an important virtue because other virtues are often useless without it.
Freedom is not free; never had been, never will be. Courage is one of prices that has to be paid for freedom.
 
Let's see: So far the "resistance" has taken the form of trying to shut down the government, vandalizing Tesla vehicles,

Its a start.

trying to keep violent/extremist illegal aliens in the country,

There's little evidence that the ones being sent out are violent. Plenty of law-abiders have been detained, abused, and even disappeared. But that stuff gets you off, I am sure.

trying to continue to force female athletes to compete against men, etc.,

I doubt you would care a whit about women's sports if it didn't involve someone for you to hate. You are your hero hate transgenders so much you cut funding to a University over a student who graduated over 3 years ago.

because of a modest reduction in the federal workforce,

Nothing modest about it. There have been panic moments because they fired people who are responsible for nuclear material. The Federal workforce is not bloated. Its been even for decades. Now thanks to Musk's ketamine induced power-trips we have something like 3 Rangers for all of Yellowstone. These mass-firings have been a disaster and are solely to try and give oligarchs more power and money.


because tens of billions of dollars of wasteful/fraudulent federal spending have been identified and stopped,

No. They haven't. They claimed tons of savings but had to walk back huge numbers of those claims. Most of those "savings" are like you saving $2000 by not paying your mortgage. Look at all that money!

because the federal government recognizes biology again in acknowledging there are only two genders,

Which shows you fail basic biology.

because reciprocal tariffs and other tariffs are being imposed to protect American jobs,

The tariffs weren't reciprocal. They were just randomly thrown out by the Aderal-addled Trump. They've made the stock market do a nose-dive and now nobody is keen on making investments since they have no idea what crazy nonsense Trump will do next to the economy.

because federal censorship of speech has been ended, etc., etc.

The most hypocritical of your statements. Trump has literally been making people disappear because he didn't like what they said. He's now trying to intimidate others into silence. You are just another free speech hypocrite.

Don't like current administration policies? Go win an election.

Here you are not wrong.

Next time don't run a far-left airhead and a phony combat veteran who describes himself as a "knucklehead,"

As opposed to a rapist, drug-addled, draft-dodger and a fobbit? Don't cast stones.

and start respecting women's sports, start protecting children from predatory transgender activists, and start respecting parents' rights regarding their children's gender identity--do these things and you might just win the White House or at least the House or the Senate.

Gotta love how all your reasons center around transgender people. Methinks you think about transgenders more than they think about it themselves. You've got some issues.

How about you encourage your local rep and Senator to hold some town meetings where you can cheer them on? If you live in a blue district I'm sure there's GOP rep not too far away whose meeting you can go to and cheer them on.
 
34 000 showed up outdoors in Denver for Bernie and AOC.
...and about 10,000 a few hours previously in Greeley, which is a deep red town. AOC taunted the town's House Rep (Gabe Evans) as too cowardly to do a town hall, so she and Bernie had to show up and do it. My parents were there (and I'm super proud of that).

That District (CO-8) is very purple, Evans beat his opponent by less than 1%. Greeley is dark red but the district includes some of Denver's suburbs that are more blue. He's likely to be a one-termer.

(In four years AOC will need to decide if she's going for the White House or if she should take Schumer's seat in the Senate, but that's a subject of a different thread - but she really is hitting the feel of the moment among liberals and progressives who are frustrated with Dem inaction).

I might go to another Tesla Takedown tomorrow. The last one was fun.
 
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Let's see: So far the "resistance" has taken the form of trying to shut down the government, vandalizing Tesla vehicles, trying to keep violent/extremist illegal aliens in the country, trying to continue to force female athletes to compete against men, etc., because of a modest reduction in the federal workforce, because tens of billions of dollars of wasteful/fraudulent federal spending have been identified and stopped, because the federal government recognizes biology again in acknowledging there are only two genders, because reciprocal tariffs and other tariffs are being imposed to protect American jobs, because federal censorship of speech has been ended, etc., etc.

Don't like current administration policies? Go win an election. Next time don't run a far-left airhead and a phony combat veteran who describes himself as a "knucklehead," and start respecting women's sports, start protecting children from predatory transgender activists, and start respecting parents' rights regarding their children's gender identity--do these things and you might just win the White House or at least the House or the Senate.
Not to address the whole thread here, but I just read that there are now more children in Texas with measles than there are transgender college athletes in the entire country. It might behoove you and your colleagues to consider whether your priorities are in order.

e.t.a. while at it, although you may be right in a sense in your last paragraph about what it takes to win, it might not mean all you think it does. What you are essentially saying is that you too could win office by being a mendacious idiot, a truth of a sort but a sad one.
 
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I might go to another Tesla Takedown tomorrow. The last one was fun.
Nothing quite like a plan to intentionally put a hundred thousand people out of work. Yay for progressivism!

I get the desire to punish Musk. I don't really get the desire to punish everyone who works for Tesla, nor to punish everyone who purchased a quality US-manufactured electric vehicle rather than a car that eats fossil fuel.
 
Not to address the whole thread here, but I just read that there are now more children in Texas with measles than there are transgender college athletes in the entire country. It might behoove you and your colleagues to consider whether your priorities are in order.
Did you know that it's proven to be entirely impossible for anyone to simultaneously support female rights to male-free spaces and sports while also supporting vaccination?
 
Did you know that it's proven to be entirely impossible for anyone to simultaneously support female rights to male-free spaces and sports while also supporting vaccination?
I consider that an unnecessarily silly response. I am talking about the current administration and its vociferous supporters - the administration that is making a big issue of transgender sports, among other relative non-issues, while appointing measles-promoting science-hating crackpots to positions of power and endangering the health of an entire nation's children. I would have thought it obvious that not every person who opposes transgender athletes in college sports must also be an enemy of vaccination, and would presume (I would have thought without having to say it) that you, not having given any indication that you share in the folly and insanity of our current president, are not, therefore, the subject of my statement. I was addressing an outright supporter of the administration that is now in power and who, as far as one can see, supports its choice of issues and priorities.
 
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Nothing quite like a plan to intentionally put a hundred thousand people out of work. Yay for progressivism!

I get the desire to punish Musk. I don't really get the desire to punish everyone who works for Tesla, nor to punish everyone who purchased a quality US-manufactured electric vehicle rather than a car that eats fossil fuel.
It's not punishment. It is stripping him of the wealth he uses to influence politics. His power comes from his wealth.

There are other options now for electric cars, Tesla is no longer unique.

Were he to divest himself from Tesla such efforts against the company would end.
 
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It's not punishment. It is stripping him of the wealth he uses to influence politics. His power comes from his wealth.

There are other options now for electric cars, Tesla is no longer unique.

Were he to divest himself from Tesla such efforts against the company would end.
So you favor collective punishment.
 
I consider that an unnecessarily silly response. I am talking about the current administration and its vociferous supporters - the administration that is making a big issue of transgender sports, among other relative non-issues, while appointing measles-promoting science-hating crackpots to positions of power and endangering the health of an entire nation's children. I would have thought it obvious that not every person who opposes transgender athletes in college sports must also be an enemy of vaccination, and would presume (I would have thought without having to say it) that you, not having given any indication that you share in the folly and insanity of our current president, are not, therefore, the subject of my statement. I was addressing an outright supporter of the administration that is now in power and who, as far as one can see, supports its choice of issues and priorities.
Well, given that you responded directly to @mikegriffith1, and you specifically said that they and their colleagues should consider their priorities... it seems abundantly clear that you were implying that mikegriffith1 is anti-vaccinations in general*. Furthermore, it insinuated that anyone who opposes male-appropriation of female spaces, or opposes the permanent maiming of youth in the name of gender identity must also necessarily be opposed to vaccinations.

If you'd like to walk-back your prior post and rephrase it to be clearer, that would certainly be appreciated.

*I suppose it could be true, I'm not going to try to wade through a malfunctioning search system to try to find past posts by mikegriffith1 on the topic. But nothing posted here by them suggests or supports the idea that they generally oppose vaccinations.
 
It's not punishment. It is stripping him of the wealth he uses to influence politics. His power comes from his wealth.
Have you really thought this through? There are a lot of very wealthy people who influence politics - and a rather large number of them influence Democratic policies. Would you be supportive of efforts by wing-nut conservatives to destroy the businesses of those leftist wealthy folks, especially if it meant destroying the incomes and retirement savings of hundreds of thousands of people in the process? Would you be so sanguine about a concerted and organized effort to destroy Microsoft and all of its employees and customers just to remove the ability of Bill Gates to influence politics?
There are other options now for electric cars, Tesla is no longer unique.

Were he to divest himself from Tesla such efforts against the company would end.
Sure, and if Bill Gates would simply divest themself of Microsoft, they wouldn't have to worry about organized efforts to set PCs on fire and harass anyone who purchased MS Office.

Personally, I think it's incredibly short-sighted and dangerous to advocate for destroying the livelihood of over 100,000 employees, let alone how many hundreds of thousands of investors in retirement funds that include Tesla stock, on the premise of "limiting influence". It's mafia-style tactics: "Look, just sign over your business and leave town, and we'll stop harassing and threatening your friends and families, capisce?"
 
It's not punishment. It is stripping him of the wealth he uses to influence politics. His power comes from his wealth.
The pearl clutching that this might put 'a hundred thousand people out of work' (how?) while supporting a government that's actively tearing down the US economy is rich, too. Every accusation really is a confession.
 
And yet when it's federal employees being put out of work, that's just fine!
The issue of putting people out of work is not entirely irrelevant, but it cannot stand alone. By itself the argument can be used to defend against closing concentration camps and the factories that make land mines.
 
Have you really thought this through? There are a lot of very wealthy people who influence politics - and a rather large number of them influence Democratic policies. Would you be supportive of efforts by wing-nut conservatives to destroy the businesses of those leftist wealthy folks, especially if it meant destroying the incomes and retirement savings of hundreds of thousands of people in the process? Would you be so sanguine about a concerted and organized effort to destroy Microsoft and all of its employees and customers just to remove the ability of Bill Gates to influence politics?

Sure, and if Bill Gates would simply divest themself of Microsoft, they wouldn't have to worry about organized efforts to set PCs on fire and harass anyone who purchased MS Office.

Personally, I think it's incredibly short-sighted and dangerous to advocate for destroying the livelihood of over 100,000 employees, let alone how many hundreds of thousands of investors in retirement funds that include Tesla stock, on the premise of "limiting influence". It's mafia-style tactics: "Look, just sign over your business and leave town, and we'll stop harassing and threatening your friends and families, capisce?"
I personally don't support arson, but you're being pretty disingenuous comparing a hypothetical harm to the "livelihood of 100,000 employess" when 25,000 federal employees were definitely and absolutely harmed and fired by Musk. (illegally of course, which is why the result is still being disputed). And then to draw a false equivalency between him and Bill Gates, who spent less than 1/5 of what Musk did, had no major social media platform to continuously promote his candidate, and has zero actual involvement in government. Could you seriously imagine Gates being given the kind of power Musk was given if Harris had won?
 

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