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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

MarkCorrigan said:
Not something I claimed.

Again, I'm not saying that you need to be nutter butters to be interested in the sinking of the Estonia.

If you believe I am saying that quote me saying it.

Also, that doesn't answer my question. You're making up my side of the argument again. Naughty naughty. So come on, what do you think my comparison meant?
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This is a serious topic AFAIAC. Both the captains of Silja Europa and Viking Isabella were equally sceptical about the way Estonia sank. It is not helpful for people to pop along and talk down on people trying to seriously address the issues concerning this incident. You had choice words to say about Jutta Rabe, for example. But why? She is an independent German investigative journalist. Whether she is right or wrong in her concerns - and others - it is not helpful to have knee jerk responses that it is all rubbish.
 
Vixen said:
This is a serious topic AFAIAC. Both the captains of Silja Europa and Viking Isabella were equally sceptical about the way Estonia sank. It is not helpful for people to pop along and talk down on people trying to seriously address the issues concerning this incident. You had choice words to say about Jutta Rabe, for example. But why? She is an independent German investigative journalist. Whether she is right or wrong in her concerns - and others - it is not helpful to have knee jerk responses that it is all rubbish.
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Yet more rambling that doesn't address any of my questions. Why can't you answer my questions Vixen? Why do you always ramble on a tangent?


So come on, stop deflecting and answer my questions.
 
JayUtah said:
If your reply is simply to restate claims that have been debunked many, many, many times, then it is a fringe reset.
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The right of reply relates to @BlueMountain's claims that he knows better than expert citations (for example, Norwegian professors of Metallurgy and the Finnish naval communications expert who gave a presentation on hydrostatically-activated automatic EPIRB's as used & installed on M/V Estonia). Trying to make out these quoted expert opinions are all reflections of idiocy.
 
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MarkCorrigan said:
Not something I claimed.

Again, I'm not saying that you need to be nutter butters to be interested in the sinking of the Estonia.

If you believe I am saying that quote me saying it.

Also, that doesn't answer my question. You're making up my side of the argument again. Naughty naughty. So come on, what do you think my comparison meant?
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Your raison d'être appears to be a determination to make fun of my interest in this topic. That is fine but don't do the ''Qui, moi?' act when confronted.
 
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JayUtah said:
I'm having a go at the person who woke this thread up after a year to recite long-debunked nonsense.
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I was correcting Blue Mountain. It is important to correct important errors as of the point they are made. GBS' slippery slope syndrome. Let an ethical issue slide one nanometre and soon it is an avalanche.
 
Vixen said:
And I have now set the record straight.
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Nothing about reasserting old, long-debunked claims sets a record straight—quite the contrary. If you wish to address something that was said by someone else in another thread, say it to that person in that thread. If you're going to resurrect this thread and try to dog-whistle up the same display we've endured for seven chapters, that's on you.
 
Vixen said:
The right of reply relates to @BlueMountain's claims that he knows better than expert citations (for example, Norwegian professors of Metallurgy and the Finnish naval communications expert who gave a presentation on hydrostatically-activated automatic EPIRB's as used & installed on M/V Estonia). Trying to make out these quoted expert opinions are all reflections of idiocy.
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Please, not the EPIRB again!

You were completely demolished last time,
Do you really want that humiliation again?
 
Vixen said:
@BlueMoutain: re your comments elsewhere:

  1. It was confirmed by a naval official at the official investigation that the EPIRBS were automatic EPIRBS.
  2. It was confirmed by a Norwegian professor of Metallurgy that the type of deformation seen in the bow were compatible with an explosives reaction and she did say this type of deformation in reinforced steel is only reproducible in a laboratory and at temperatures >800°C. If you want to mock an expert, that reflects on you, not me.
  3. Underwater images did indeed show submersible track marks on the Baltic Sea bed.
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Jack by the hedge said:
Fringe reset or greatest hits tour?
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Vixen said:
Neither. It was the right of reply.
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Mojo said:
To what?
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Vixen said:
Blue Mountain.
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No, not "who", "what". I already know it was a reply to Blue Mountain, because you said so at the start of your post, remember?

What did Blue Mountain post that you were exercising "the right of reply" to?
 
Vixen said:
It is certainly most unfortunate you are forced to read a topic you are not interested in, presumably because your finger keeps clicking on it?

I wonder if there is a solution.
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Is this supposed to be a reply to my comment that you quoted? Because I am at a complete loss to make any connection.
 
Steve said:
Is this supposed to be a reply to my comment that you quoted? Because I am at a complete loss to make any connection.
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She's trying to conflate you saying her nonsensical ramblings not being interesting with the event in question not being interesting.

Like I pointed out with my David Irving comparison, which she still hasn't addressed.
 
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