Does the Shroud of Turin Show Expected Elongation of the Head in 2D?"

[bobdroege7]

Dude... do you have some reason to assume that type AB is "the right one"? You have some scriptural dirt on what Jesus' blood type was supposed to be?

Also, no blood was found on the shroud of any type. Even if there were, there's no saying it was original, and not a later embellishment.

Dude, there more than 100 blood stains on the shroud.

A later embellishment?

Did the forger come back and adjust his painting of the shroud?

The blood type was AB, that's the right blood type because it's the blood type on the shroud.

The forger had no knowledge of blood typing. That's 20th century knowledge.

 

[catsmate]

but it's a rare AB blood type on the shroud, how did the forger in the 14th century know about blood types?

Why would the group of the blood matter? Even assuming there was blood on the shroud....
Wht the obsession with AB?

They picked an area of the shroud where medieval repairs were done, that's on hypothesis as to why the chi^2 test failed.

Oh look another fringe reset...
The area selected for sampling was not part of any patch. The experts looked at the shroud.

I assume this means you're dropping you claims about contamination and malfeasance?

Exactly, it's part of the magic the forger had to know, when he had no way of knowing that.

No. Why does the blood group matter?

So it's a range of dates, about 20% would give a date after the shroud appeared.

So? We have plenty of other reasons to understand the medieval origin of the shroud. Starting with the documentary trail.

 

[catsmate]

Dude, there more than 100 blood stains on the shroud.

Evidence?

 

[JayUtah]

The blood type was AB, that's the right blood type because it's the blood type on the shroud.

Reasoning cannot get any more circular than this.

The forger had no knowledge of blood typing. That's 20th century knowledge.

Red herring.

 

[bobdroege7]

He doesn't need to know the blood type.


I assume you mean "brush stroke." That's been asked and answered.

Pigments have been found on the shroud.

Yes, but the image is not of the pigments.

 

[catsmate]

Reasoning cannot get any more circular than this.


Red herring.

As red as the ochre on the shroud.....

 

[bobdroege7]

Reasoning cannot get any more circular than this.


Red herring.

No, it's more like a shiv to the forgery hypothesis.

 

[JayUtah]

Yes, but the image is not of the pigments.

According to what evidence?

 

[bobdroege7]

As red as the ochre on the shroud.....

What color is the image?

Hint: it's not red.

 

[JayUtah]

No, it's more like a shiv to the forgery hypothesis.

Not in the least. You seem to lack basic reasoning skills.

You say the AB-type blood allegedly on the shroud is remarkable because it is the "right" type and that the forger would have no way of knowing that he needed to put the "right" type on it. Why is AB the "right" blood type to be on the shroud?

 

[Thermal]

Dude, there more than 100 blood stains on the shroud.

A later embellishment?

Did the forger come back and adjust his painting of the shroud?

The blood type was AB, that's the right blood type because it's the blood type on the shroud.

The forger had no knowledge of blood typing. That's 20th century knowledge.

Again: there was no blood found on the shroud. Vermillion was found at the areas claimed to be blood stained.

And you continue to duck why type AB would be of any significance at all in the case of the Holy Blankie.

Do you have it stuck in your head for whatever reason that a rare blood type would be magical? Cuz it looks like just another kind of human blood to me.

 

[Thermal]

What color is the image?

Hint: it's not red.

Why would it be? It has decayed over centuries and was in a fire.

ETA: the ocre is what was found on the shroud. It does not mean it was the only pigment used, just one that is left and identifiable

 

[Thermal]

So it's a range of dates, about 20% would give a date after the shroud appeared.

That's called "honesty". The range is scientifically established independent of other known facts about its history. They didn't edit the found range because of what they believed was the thing's timeline.

What if it was later discovered that the historical timeline was factually wrong? Science has to stand independent of the narrative.

 

[theprestige]

Why would it be? It has decayed over centuries and was in a fire.

ETA: the ocre is what was found on the shroud. It does not mean it was the only pigment used, just one that is left and identifiable

The other one being vermilion.

 

[I Am The Scum]

but it's a rare AB blood type on the shroud, how did the forger in the 14th century know about blood types?

How could the forger be a Texas sharpshooter when he didn't even know about the existence of Texas?

 

[Thermal]

The other one being vermilion.

Right, and as I understand them, neither biodegrade much, so last a long time. Plant based pigments may return to the grand nothingness at a quicker pace?

 

[catsmate]

What color is the image?

Hint: it's not red.

Oh look another attempt at distraction. Where's you evidence for blood @bobdroege7? And the Jerusalem limestone? And the herringbone weave cloth?

 

[Mojo]

But there is too much information on the shroud, that a 14th century artist would have no way of knowing, like the AB blood type. Was the forger that lucky?

Texas sharpshooter.

If there's blood on the shroud, how lucky would the forger need to be for it to have the same blood group as itself?

 

[theprestige]

Yes, it's a rare blood type, only a 3% chance they got the right one.

You might possibly be the only person in the world who thinks they know what blood type is on the shroud.

 

[catsmate]

Why would it be? It has decayed over centuries and was in a fire.

ETA: the ocre is what was found on the shroud. It does not mean it was the only pigment used, just one that is left and identifiable

And, as you say, ochre was found on the cloth (unlike blood). Obviously @bobdroege7 is unaware of this fact. As unaware as he is of the colours of ochre....