What did Democrats do wrong?

[thaiboxerken]

Because the other side was so polite in their messaging....

 

[johnny karate]

I feel like one of the things the Democrats did wrong was never really step away from the "deplorables" messaging. Based on voter turnout, even a lot of progressives are getting tired of the way johnny karate and others insist on framing things.

Ah yes, the "You said mean things and hurt my feelings" gambit. Not as compelling post-"They're eating the pets" though, is it?

 

[Manger Douse]

Because the other side was so polite in their messaging....

The Republicans don't seem to be calling their own voters deplorable if they don't fall completely in line as much as the Democrats do

 

[thaiboxerken]

The Republicans don't seem to be calling their own voters deplorable if they don't fall completely in line as much as the Democrats do

Nonsense. They will go so far as to threaten death of those who don't fall in line. STFU.

 

[theprestige]

Because the other side was so polite in their messaging....

Ah yes, the "You said mean things and hurt my feelings" gambit. Not as compelling post-"They're eating the pets" though, is it?

I'm pretty sure another thing the Democrats did wrong was assume that tu quoque would be a solid strategy for getting much-needed votes.

 

[Manger Douse]

Nonsense. They will go so far as to threaten death of those who don't fall in line. STFU.

The Republicans didn't win because they were making death threats to their own voters, they won because the Democrats are not shy about publicly calling their own potential voters deplorable

 

[thaiboxerken]

The Republicans didn't win because they were making death threats to their own voters, they won because the Democrats are not shy about publicly calling their own potential voters deplorable

You are right, they won because they suppressed votes, spent decades building a misinformation infrastructure, demonized and denigrated the opposition, called anyone that didn't vote in line "RINO", threatened people with death, and convinced people that laws don't matter.

 

[thaiboxerken]

If anything, the Democrats lost because they didn't fight dirty, like the GOP does.

 

[Manger Douse]

You are right, they won because they suppressed votes, spent decades building a misinformation infrastructure, demonized and denigrated the opposition, called anyone that didn't vote in line "RINO", threatened people with death, and convinced people that laws don't matter.

The Democrats did nothing wrong then I guess

 

[thaiboxerken]

The Democrats did nothing wrong then I guess

Because that's exactly what I said....

 

[johnny karate]

I'm pretty sure another thing the Democrats did wrong was assume that tu quoque would be a solid strategy for getting much-needed votes.

Pointing out hypocrisy is not a tu quoque. Approximately zero rational people who are concerned about decorum would look at a candidate who spread vile racist conspiracy theories that endangered a whole town to the point that it had to effectively go on lockdown for two weeks and think “He’s my guy”.

The degree to which you are correct is based on the unwritten rule that says white conservatives are allowed to ◊◊◊◊ on anyone they want with total impunity but anyone who dares disrespect a white conservative has committed a grave transgression.

 

[Manger Douse]

Because that's exactly what I said....

What do you mean? Nothing in what I quoted mentioned Democrats

 

[theprestige]

If anything, the Democrats lost because they didn't fight dirty, like the GOP does.

I'm pretty sure pushing the message that they weren't fighting dirty was yet another thing the Democrats did that cost them much-needed votes.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I'm pretty sure pushing the message that they weren't fighting dirty was yet another thing the Democrats did that cost them much-needed votes.

Prove it.

 

[theprestige]

Prove it.

Bro. You lost the election. The time for me to prove anything to you is long past. I'm just here to see if you come up with anything useful in terms of practical lessons for the midterms.

 

[dann]

What Democrats did wrong? Really?
They called Trump and the other fascists fascists, but they never treated them like fascists!
They still don't!
And they probably never will.

Charlamagne Tha God Urges Dems to Redirect Their Trump Energy (The Daily Show on YouTube, Feb 4, 2025 - 8:27 min.)
"There's no way in hell I should be caring about what rappers do more than I care about what my elected officials do." Charlamagne Tha God and The Daily Show writer Ashton Womack question the Democrats' strategy regarding Trump and urge them to get focused.

 

[Trausti]

If anything, the Democrats lost because they didn't fight dirty, like the GOP does.

LOL. The Dems tried to remove Trump, RFKjr, and Stein from various state ballots.

 

[esquel]

Because by the laws of those states they were ineligible.

 

[thaiboxerken]

LOL. The Dems tried to remove Trump, RFKjr, and Stein from various state ballots.

Following constitutional law is not "playing dirty." Only a moron would think so.

 

[d4m10n]

I'm just here to see if you come up with anything useful in terms of practical lessons for the midterms.

Midterms are usually about how well the incumbent administration is doing; lessons from 2024 might not be particularly helpful since we've switched out who lives in the White House and bears the brunt of national malaise.