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Kamala Harris Election Campaign

plague311 said:
This is just not true at all. Russia still has a metric **** ton of nukes, and while they might not use them they are absolutely still a threat.

Also, Ukraine hasn't been "handing (Russia) their ass" in any way, shape or form. At best they're keeping their heads above water.
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Where are you getting your information? I'm getting mine from active duty military personnel and military strategists so... Yeah.

Russia claims to have a **** ton of nukes, but all we have is their word for it. They've also claimed to have fifth gen stealth aircraft, unkillable tanks, and intercept missiles that can't be beat. And all of those have been proven untrue over and over again since they invaded Ukraine. Their "fifth gen stealth" craft have the radar cross section of a light plane, whereas ours has the cross section of a bumblebee.

It's hypothetically possible that Russia actually has the *number* of nuclear warheads they claim to have, but whether they've been maintained and are operational is an entirely different question.

plague311 said:
This is why you're right-wing. You spread absolute bull ****, you get called out on it, and then you claim to be an independent and you're, like, totally just bothsides'ing everything cause both sides are bad. You just happen to only parrot right-wing, factually incorrect talking points. If you're an independent then you're giving independents a terrible name.
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WTH? At what point did it become a left-wing position that Russia is a massive threat to the US and Iran is no big deal?

This isn't a partisan position, buddy. It's a military and strategic position. Iran is currently a larger immediate threat to the US than Russia is. Russia talks a big game, but they're actually not complete idiots. Iran is borderline unhinged, and has a higher likelihood of actually initiating conflict with the US directly.
 
Is this real?

https://kamalaharris.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/FMfcgzQXJZxzLGgcKmSNQSXCRKXShwxJ.pdf

Why do they very specifically and only talking about black men? Like for instance here:

Vice President Harris will ensure Black men have access to high-quality, affordable health care.
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Why not just black people? Black women don't need high-quality, affordable health care? I mean, it just seems a bit too specific? The whole thing is only and specifically for black men.

Another example:

Enabling Black men who hold digital assets to benefit from financial innovation. More than 20% of Black Americans own or have owned cryptocurrency assets. Vice President Harris appreciates the ways in which new technologies can broaden access to banking and financial services. She will make sure owners of and investors in digital assets benefit from a regulatory framework so that Black men and others who participate in this market are protected.
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Harris ahead in PA from NYT/Siena. 49/45. Oct 7-10. And that does not even include Trump “dancing” for 39 minutes including the gay anthem YMCA.
 
carlosy said:
Is this real?

https://kamalaharris.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/FMfcgzQXJZxzLGgcKmSNQSXCRKXShwxJ.pdf

Why do they very specifically and only talking about black men? Like for instance here:



Why not just black people? Black women don't need high-quality, affordable health care? I mean, it just seems a bit too specific? The whole thing is only and specifically for black men.

Another example:
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As I understand it, there's evidence black men are trending away from Harris, with speculation that the demographic doesn't trust leadership to a woman. So the Harris campaign has targeted them specifically, much as they have targeted campaigns for Hispanics, women, and other subgroups where they think they can make progress.
 
carlosy said:
Is this real?

https://kamalaharris.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/FMfcgzQXJZxzLGgcKmSNQSXCRKXShwxJ.pdf

Why do they very specifically and only talking about black men? Like for instance here:



Why not just black people? Black women don't need high-quality, affordable health care? I mean, it just seems a bit too specific? The whole thing is only and specifically for black men.

Another example:
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If a politician doesn't specifically mention a segment of the population they're ignoring them because they just don't care!! But if a politican does mention a specific segment of the population they're pandering to them and also they just don't care about every other segment of the population!!

How these evil politicians can sleep at night with all that evil they are I just don't know.
 
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carlosy said:
Is this real?

https://kamalaharris.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/FMfcgzQXJZxzLGgcKmSNQSXCRKXShwxJ.pdf

Why do they very specifically and only talking about black men? Like for instance here:



Why not just black people? Black women don't need high-quality, affordable health care? I mean, it just seems a bit too specific? The whole thing is only and specifically for black men.
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She's addressed women's healthcare several times. I don't think it's unreasonable for her to tell Black men that she's focused on providing them reasonably priced healthcare as well. That her focus isn't just on women and abortion rights. As others said, she's also trying to break through a glass ceiling and some of that requires speaking directly to a group of people. I'm kind of confused why it seems to bother you so much. She hasn't said she'll focus on Black men's healthcare rather than women, or Hispanics. Just that she has Black men in mind too. Seems really benign to me.

carlosy said:
Another example:

Enabling Black men who hold digital assets to benefit from financial innovation. More than 20% of Black Americans own or have owned cryptocurrency assets. Vice President Harris appreciates the ways in which new technologies can broaden access to banking and financial services. She will make sure owners of and investors in digital assets benefit from a regulatory framework so that Black men and others who participate in this market are protected.
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Kind of seems like she's talking to everyone, including Black men, about her plans for crypto. It doesn't seem hyper-focused on Black men.

Whether people here like it or not, crypto doesn't seem to be going anywhere. I've been hearing about how it's going to tank or become worthless for about a decade. It's time to just accept it.
 
Ryan O'Dine said:
As I understand it, there's evidence black men are trending away from Harris, with speculation that the demographic doesn't trust leadership to a woman. So the Harris campaign has targeted them specifically, much as they have targeted campaigns for Hispanics, women, and other subgroups where they think they can make progress.
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Yes, but presenting it this way looks a bit weird, imho.
Imagine you are a black woman or latino.
'Oh, nice what they will do for black men...'

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Accepting its existence is one thing. Pledging government resources to helping its victims when it goes wrong is another.
 
I'm also amused by her new marijuana stance, given how many people she prosecuted in California for marijuana crimes. I doubt we'll see an apology for her past actions on that front.
 
BTW, also kind of weird the combination of crypto and marijuana...
Reading just these talking points might give the (false stereotype) sense that Harris is supporting all these 'black drug dealers who keep their illegal money in crypto'.

The whole thing is almost racist, because it makes it seem like black men are 'special' who need special treatment.
 
Ziggurat said:
I'm also amused by her new marijuana stance, given how many people she prosecuted in California for marijuana crimes. I doubt we'll see an apology for her past actions on that front.
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You mean she did her job? Yeah, that's a terrible thing in a prospective president: doing their duty, fulfilling their obligations, upholding the law. No wonder you prefer Trump, he's never done any of those things!
 
carlosy said:
BTW, also kind of weird the combination of crypto and marijuana...
Reading just these talking points might give the (false stereotype) sense that Harris is supporting all these 'black drug dealers who keep their illegal money in crypto'.

The whole thing is almost racist, because it makes it seem like black men are 'special' who need special treatment.
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Yes, “almost racist”. Needs more pet-eating accusations to get it there, though.
 
TragicMonkey said:
You mean she did her job? Yeah, that's a terrible thing in a prospective president: doing their duty, fulfilling their obligations, upholding the law. No wonder you prefer Trump, he's never done any of those things!
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In fairness, MAGA attorneys general aren’t well known for doing their jobs or following the law, so it’s probably a foreign concept to a Trump supporter.
 
carlosy said:
BTW, also kind of weird the combination of crypto and marijuana...
Reading just these talking points might give the (false stereotype) sense that Harris is supporting all these 'black drug dealers who keep their illegal money in crypto'.
The whole thing is almost racist, because it makes it seem like black men are 'special' who need special treatment.
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What? There are plenty of legal users of crypto. There's nothing inherently illegal in crypto and it's definitely not as anonymous as people here think it is, but I doubt anyone cares.

The fact is crypto is a market that is easily gotten into by the average citizen, unlike stock trading which is a bit more involved.

We're bitching about marijuana legalization? I figured people on a skeptics forum wouldn't be as shocked by people changing their stance on a topic when given more information or as the times change. Nope, not for Kamala! She can't do that! What a bizarre viewpoint.
 
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carlosy said:
BTW, also kind of weird the combination of crypto and marijuana...
Reading just these talking points might give the (false stereotype) sense that Harris is supporting all these 'black drug dealers who keep their illegal money in crypto'.

The whole thing is almost racist, because it makes it seem like black men are 'special' who need special treatment.
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No, it's not weird at all. You have to be searching for some nefarious or strange reason to come up with that. Crypto is a lot more common than you seem to think. And the Devil's lettuce is legal in about half of the United States.

It's also not strange to address a specific demographic.
 
Ziggurat said:
DA's have significant discretion in what they choose to focus on and how they want to prosecute. She could have gone easy on marijuana prosecutions while doing her job. She chose not to.
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Now I'm intrigued. Which cases, in your opinion, did she go aggressively hard on marijuana users? By that I mean for smoking\using marijuana, not trafficking or anything like that. I'm talking about just marijuana use.
 
plague311 said:
What? There are plenty of legal users of crypto. There's nothing inherently illegal in crypto and it's definitely not as anonymous as people here think it is, but I doubt anyone cares.

The fact is crypto is a market that is easily gotten into by the average citizen, unlike stock trading which is a bit more involved.

We're bitching about marijuana legalization? I figured people on a skeptics forum wouldn't be as shocked by people changing their stance on a topic when given more information or as the times change. Nope, not for Kamala! She can't do that! What a bizarre viewpoint.
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I'm not bitching about anything. I don't care who uses marijuana or crypto. I just hope that these talking points won't get through to the people who are not meant to read it, because they might see it as naive as I depicted it. And in the end it could hurt more than it might help Harris.
 
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