Split Thread Trans ideology causes school shootings

HansMustermann said:
Even if one agrees to the first sentence for the scope of this exercise, the second is still false. You've been driving it by claiming that it's what made this shooting happen, but you haven't actually shown any valid logical connection.
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Thermal posted the Discord post, and concluded it was Colt Davis.
I think it is Colt, but if it is not, this thread is in the right sub forum.
 
Venom said:
Samson what about all the other shootings without a "trans component"?
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They just haven't spotted it yet. All school shootings are, secretly or otherwise, due to some trans component. School shootings didn't happen before trans people started eating our cats. Fact.
 
Samson said:
Transing children is evil.
The thread is driven by this fact.
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That isn't a fact and you've still not actually responded to anything anyone has pointed out.

Again you're just screaming out that you're a transphobe completely disconnected from anything else.

Even if you were actually correct about gender affirming care being evil, which you are not, you're just the worst communicator I've seen in my time on this forum. You write barely coherent screeds that just restate your position over and over again without providing any evidence or dealing with counter arguments.

I mean you've straight up ignored the fact that I corrected your utter lack of understanding yet again and just went back to restating your position.

We know you think gender affirming care is evil, but you aren't able to explain why or provide evidence so you just repeat yourself ad nauseam without engaging with people trying to engage with you. On the very rare occasions you actually do engage with what people have written rather than just the fact they responded to you all you do is repeat your position and the tired old lies you desperately clig to to shore up the fact that you were an abusive brother to your trans sibling and want to hold on to those beliefs because it's all you have left

Is that what this is? Are you shrieking that trans people are evil to assuage your guilt at having treated your sibling badly before they died?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
They just haven't spotted it yet. All school shootings are, secretly or otherwise, due to some trans component. School shootings didn't happen before trans people started eating our cats. Fact.
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Trans kids were not any part of your schooling.
 
Samson said:
Thermal posted the Discord post, and concluded it was Colt Davis.
I think it is Colt, but if it is not, this thread is in the right sub forum.
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That's still not enough of a connection to blame the shooting on the trans or trans ideology.

Even without the other logical disconnects, it's like blaming Kristallnacht on the Jews. Actually no, it's even dumber than that. It's like blaming the Jews if some confused antisemite shot up a mosque.
 
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Samson said:
Trans kids were not any part of your schooling.
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So? When I was in school we were taught Pluto was a planet. It isn't.

Back in the 50s and before schooling was taught with overt and covert racism baked in. My parents and grandparents were taught about the civilising role colonialists played in Africa. They were also very deliberately not taught that gay people were deserving of equal rights and protections under the law. I went to school here in the UK that were still under the rule of the monstrously evil Section 28 law banning 'the promotion of homosexuality'
Education changes as understanding improves. Fancy that.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
That isn't a fact and you've still not actually responded to anything anyone has pointed out.

Again you're just screaming out that you're a transphobe completely disconnected from anything else.

Even if you were actually correct about gender affirming care being evil, which you are not, you're just the worst communicator I've seen in my time on this forum. You write barely coherent screeds that just restate your position over and over again without providing any evidence or dealing with counter arguments.

I mean you've straight up ignored the fact that I corrected your utter lack of understanding yet again and just went back to restating your position.

We know you think gender affirming care is evil, but you aren't able to explain why or provide evidence so you just repeat yourself ad nauseam without engaging with people trying to engage with you. On the very rare occasions you actually do engage with what people have written rather than just the fact they responded to you all you do is repeat your position and the tired old lies you desperately clig to to shore up the fact that you were an abusive brother to your trans sibling and want to hold on to those beliefs because it's all you have left

Is that what this is? Are you shrieking that trans people are evil to assuage your guilt at having treated your sibling badly before they died?
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John died from being prescribed estrogen at age 50 while a man.
He died age 53.in 2005.
He passed as Jo at a Sunday morning farmers market.
People would come by the business and say I spoke to the lady at the market.
John had no children like Richard Levine or Rohann Stace locally.
Richard Levine says he is glad he never had his puberty blocked because his children mean everything to him.
He promotes Lupron for children, as do Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
 
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Samson said:
John died from being prescribed estrogen at age 50 while a man.
He died age 53.in 2005.
He passed as Jo at a Sunday morning farmers market.
People would come by the business and say I spoke to the lady at the market.
John had no children like Richard Levine or Rohann Stace locally.
Richard Levine says he is glad he never had his puberty blocked because his children mean everything to him.
He promotes Lupron, as do Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
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So your sister died but you keep misgenerding her and deadnaming her because this is just your entire personality at this point.

You still didn't actually respond to any of my points, just parroted your position yet again.

Why should anyone bother talking to you samson?

There are people who have been on this forum who had staggeringly stupid views of how the world worked. They believed in just about every conspiracy theory going, including the mutually contradictory ones and even they could actually hold a genuine conversation. You can't.

You tell us you're a transphobe. We explain why your position is faulty and you respond by saying you're a transphobe. We explain why your position is faulty again and you say you're a transphobe. We point out that you're not actually engaging in discussion, debate or argumentative, just repeating your initial position. You respond by telling us you're a teansphobe.

It's all you do. You just spam the same claim over and over again. The wording might change but the argument doesn't get any better, it's just a restatement of your position.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
So your sister died but you keep misgenerding her and deadnaming her because this is just your entire personality at this point.

You still didn't actually respond to any of my points, just parroted your position yet again.

Why should anyone bother talking to you samson?

There are people who have been on this forum who had staggeringly stupid views of how the world worked. They believed in just about every conspiracy theory going, including the mutually contradictory ones and even they could actually hold a genuine conversation. You can't.

You tell us you're a transphobe. We explain why your position is faulty and you respond by saying you're a transphobe. We explain why your position is faulty again and you say you're a transphobe. We point out that you're not actually engaging in discussion, debate or argumentative, just repeating your initial position. You respond by telling us you're a teansphobe.

It's all you do. You just spam the same claim over and over again. The wording might change but the argument doesn't get any better, it's just a restatement of your position.
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My brother was an autogynephile.
His girl friend discovered him dressed in her clothing
 
erwinl said:
An that is why it is good that Colt shot those innocent people at school?
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I am unsure how many worthy members of this forum conclude I think school shootings are excellent.
It seems most of you.
 
At least for me, that's not even a factor. My problem is that your arguments blaming the trans make absolutely zero logical sense. Whether you think school shootings are good or bad, would at most add some completely different moral objection, but neither salvages bad logic.
 
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Samson said:
I am unsure how many worthy members of this forum conclude I think school shootings are excellent.
It seems most of you.
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Very simple.
Somebody shoots up a school and the only thing you go on about is what apparently has triggered the shooter and that said trigger should be removed (from school), with nary a single word about the victims themselves.

That can only mean one thing and one thing only. You support the action of the anti-trans shooter.
 
erwinl said:
Very simple.
Somebody shoots up a school and the only thing you go on about is what apparently has triggered the shooter and that said trigger should be removed (from school), with nary a single word about the victims themselves.

That can only mean one thing and one thing only. You support the action of the anti-trans shooter.
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Yes of course, everything about the case is great.
The body count is OK but could be better in pursuit of lowering human biomass.
 
@erwinl
While I'd agree that it's heinous, technically he just agrees with the agenda of the shooter, and uses those dead kids as just a stepping stone to furthering that agenda. Lack of empathy? Sure. BUT... it may be my aging brain (or it being marinated in alcohol:p), but I don't recall him saying that he supports his exact methods.

As a trivial example, I could agree with some of the complaints about Israel and it's occupation of Gaza, but strongly disagree with the actions of Hamas. There is just no logical connection to form an X => Y (or !Y, as the case may be), between the two.

Or just that, as usual, his logic is... tenuous on the best of days, and word salad on the worst. I hope that's not breaking any site rules.
 
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HansMustermann said:
@erwinl
While I'd agree that it's heinous, technically he just agrees with the agenda of the shooter, and uses those dead kids as just a stepping stone to furthering that agenda. Lack of empathy? Sure. BUT... it may be my aging brain (or it being marinated in alcohol:p), but I don't recall him saying that he supports his exact methods.
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Well. We just did have his answer, right before you made this post.
So I suspect, you missed that one.

As a trivial example, I could agree with some of the complaints about Israel and it's occupation of Gaza, but strongly disagree with the actions of Hamas. There is just no logical connection to form an X => Y (or !Y, as the case may be), between the two.
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Totally agree with you on this one.
Or just that, as usual, his logic is... tenuous on the best of days, and word salad on the worst. I hope that's not breaking any site rules.
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yeah. And that one as well.
 
erwinl said:
Very simple.
Somebody shoots up a school and the only thing you go on about is what apparently has triggered the shooter and that said trigger should be removed (from school), with nary a single word about the victims themselves.

That can only mean one thing and one thing only. You support the action of the anti-trans shooter.
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I don't know, makes sense to me. If we want to prevent it in the future, of course we need to talk about triggers, not about the victims.

Anyway. I think school shootings are a meme (in its original sense). A fashion, if you will. The fact, that some group identifies with it more is IMHO natural. Trans are also perfect target for the meme .. disturbed, depressed, typically bullied. Once they learn school shootings is what trans kids do now, they might identify with it as well.
Media embargo in age of social networks is sadly impossible. Making guns unavailable to possible shooters won't happen any time soon either. Also in this type of act, ie. determined user, inspired by previous event .. other means of violence, like arson, might also become popular.
On the other hand, if it is becoming a problem of mostly one relatively small group, it should be easier to focus psychological help on that group. But then trans usually have tons of that already.
 
I am here.
The killer is a construct that Trausti correctly states is brand new.
 
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